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Rep. Peter King: Libertarians in GOP Risk Destroying Party (and RINOs like King don’t?)
Newsmax ^ | Sunday, 28 Jul 2013 02:04 PM | Greg Richter

Posted on 07/28/2013 1:00:46 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: SunkenCiv
Anti-war. Maybe anti perma war. Who are we fighting? Who is the enemy? We may not know that. It's a state secret.

In a major national security speech this spring, President Obama said again and again that the U.S. is at war with “Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and their associated forces.”

So who exactly are those associated forces? It’s a secret.

At a hearing in May, Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., asked the Defense Department to provide him with a current list of Al Qaeda affiliates.

The Pentagon responded – but Levin’s office told ProPublica they aren’t allowed to share it. Kathleen Long, a spokeswoman for Levin, would say only that the department’s “answer included the information requested.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/pentagon-war-classified_n_3659353.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

61 posted on 07/28/2013 6:37:16 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Antiwar is banned here on FR for good reason — it isn’t a conservative site, or Republican, or libertarian, it’s leftist.


62 posted on 07/28/2013 7:23:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I don’t understand. Please explain.


63 posted on 07/28/2013 7:32:46 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Funny how far right they go when it's campaign time, isn't it?

Hmmm....going right wins elections, but staying right - during a Reps term - is...dangerous? What am I missing here?

64 posted on 07/28/2013 7:34:08 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Jane Long

You’re not missing anything. The GOP is eaten up with stupid.


65 posted on 07/28/2013 8:24:49 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Orangedog

Libertarianism is a loser because most Americans just want free stuff. Bush won twice because he got people to the polls to vote against gay marriage. Libertarians are weak on gay marriage.


66 posted on 07/28/2013 8:36:19 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Olog-hai
The way the GOPe is going, they will lose the libertarians, social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. So they don't have to blame libertarians for what is going on with the party. What has the GOPe RINO's done to represent the conservative base? Empty rhetoric is not going to help anymore, as people no longer believe them.

The way they have tried to expand the party is idiotic, and will end up with even less support and loyalty.

67 posted on 07/28/2013 10:06:08 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So most Americans are now liberals? Conservatives certainly do not “want free stuff”.


68 posted on 07/29/2013 3:02:22 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
It would be so awful if the GOPe lost their party.
69 posted on 07/29/2013 3:38:06 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Agree that americans just want someone else to carry their load for them. And it's not just in the inner city or liberal bastions like new england and the west coast. The suburban soccer mom is one of the biggest welfare queens out there.

Disagree on junior winning two terms because of gay marriage. He won the first time because gore's record under clinton on gun control cost him his own state in the 2000 election. As for 2004, maybe but I think the dems running a new england social climber who looks like the Snow Miser had more to do with it. I know people here don't want to hear it, but most of the country doesn't give a rat's ass about gay marriage. And most libertarians (small L) don't think the feds should be sanctioning marriage or giving and special treatment to married people. It's just more welfare.

70 posted on 07/29/2013 4:38:34 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: ansel12

I think you are confusing the Libertarian Party with libertarian philosophy (as I said previously, ‘little l’ libertarianism. They are completely different. Here is Ronald Reagan’s quote:

“If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.”

The Republican party succeeds when we champion on a libertarian-conservative platform.


71 posted on 07/29/2013 5:06:40 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: Olog-hai
Romney said if you want free stuff, vote for the other guy, and most voters did exactly that.

Do you think Obama was elected because most Americans are conservatives?

72 posted on 07/29/2013 8:34:58 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Orangedog

Most Americans do not want gay marriage.


73 posted on 07/29/2013 8:36:15 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Most americans don’t want pickled hogs feet, either but you can’t dare them to care as long as monday night football, american idol and duck dynasty are played on scheduled.


74 posted on 07/29/2013 9:25:02 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Most live voters or most dead voters?


75 posted on 07/29/2013 11:05:34 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ilgipper
Answer post 57, libertarians and their party are exactly the same. The reason that you have to rely on a quote of candidate Reagan addressing a libertarian audience in 1975 in a magazine article for their eyes only, is because he was not a libertarian.

Even there, as an economic conservative he did his intelligent Reagan thing of finding the common ground they shared at the beginning of the interview, and then he proceeded to disagree with the libertarian leftism in social issues and foreign policy.

Reagan was no libertarian, and is too well known for you to create that ridiculous myth. In fact the libertarians had their most successful presidential election in history, running against Reagan.

76 posted on 07/29/2013 11:24:40 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: Olog-hai
So you think the rats stole the election in Florida, Virginia, and Ohio? Really?

If the election came down to one state then maybe you could reasonably argue they stole it, but Romney had to win 5 swing states to win the election and he only won one of them, North Carolina.

You need to wake up to the fact that Romney lost because he was a poor candidate. Romney thought all he had to do to win was not be Obama. He was wrong.

Romney needed to give America a reason to vote for him, not just a reason to vote against Obama. He failed to do so.

77 posted on 07/29/2013 1:59:40 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Believing in no fraud is believing that the USA is majority liberal and already lost, never mind believing the mainstream media as being utterly truthful.

There’s no doubt that Romney was a weak and even liberal candidate, but that does not make Obama a strong candidate by contrast.


78 posted on 07/29/2013 2:03:23 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Orangedog
most libertarians (small L) don't think the feds should be sanctioning marriage or giving and special treatment to married people.

True, if libertarians were intellectually consistent, they would argue that the federal government has no business interfering in marriage. However, what I have found is that most people of the libertarian persuasion are sympathetic to the cause of gay marriage, because they don't think it should be anybody's business who marries who. Libertarians tend to be very hostile and hateful to Christian Conservatives who are against gay marriage because libertarians do not believe in "legislating morality." Libertarian hostility to Conservatives and sympathy for the homosexual agenda go hand in hand.

79 posted on 07/29/2013 2:08:57 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Olog-hai
The strong candidate is the one who wins.

Obama lost millions of votes between 2008 and 2012 but he still won.

80 posted on 07/29/2013 2:12:30 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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