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Did Macomb County play key role in Detroit’s decline?
Macomb Daily ^ | 7/27/2013 | Chad Selweski

Posted on 07/29/2013 6:31:58 AM PDT by equaviator

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To: equaviator

To the liberal utopians, it is everyone’s fault but their own policies. Heck, if they could just eliminate their political opponents, then utopia would be realized! There was another regime back in the 30’s over in EU that had the same answer to an economic collapse.

Be very vigilente everyone, over the next few dominos that fall you will continue to be blamed. Blame blame blame and then you will have the mob whipped up into a frenzy to eliminate those evil capitalist rich people! Rich will be continually re-defined as those that have “more than me!”


41 posted on 07/29/2013 8:39:27 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Thebaddog

“The writer is a classic Michigan liberal who has been living in a slow growth environment so long, he doesn’t know the difference from democratic incompetence and a true free ecnonomic climate that fosters economic growth. Michigan is full of this type who are happy to swirl in the toilet bowl and call it a cruise.”

I love the folks that were celebrating “July 4th” with fireworks, yet the same morons scream for social security and obamacare. They have no concept of independence!


42 posted on 07/29/2013 8:41:49 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: outpostinmass2

This author would also blame the abused spouse after he/she left for the decline in the family income and the negative effect on the children....


43 posted on 07/29/2013 8:43:08 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Personally I would put the Pistons and Red Wings in a single dual use facility.”

I’m for that but not in a building originally intended to be a jail.


44 posted on 07/29/2013 8:56:52 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: CSM
"Blame blame blame and then you will have the mob whipped up into a frenzy to eliminate those evil capitalist rich people! Rich will be continually re-defined as those that have 'more than me!'”

Once you understand Blame & Envy Cocktail, you appreciate how the Jacobins, Marxists, Communists, Bolsheviks, Nazis & Obamanists gained power. It is the central thread of demagoguery, through the generations.

William Flax

45 posted on 07/29/2013 9:02:20 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: equaviator

Speaking of stupid politicians, how about the police force?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWRVvF_pkhc


46 posted on 07/29/2013 9:03:51 AM PDT by kempster
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To: dfwgator

It may have sped up the decline, but the decline was inevitable with the leadership and the societal problems. I have been part of “white flight”. This administration and the progressives want to eliminate suburbs and have everyone live in cities. We left because of the decline of the schools, the infrastructure, the decline of my neighbor hood, crime, political corruption. Those who fled are being blamed the decline and for refusing to be victims of a corrupt populace. It got to where I carried a .357 to walk my dog and I couldn’t carry a large enough trash bag to hold the litter I picked with a walk around the block.


47 posted on 07/29/2013 9:13:46 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: dfwgator

“I suppose this idiot would prefer if everyone lived in Soviet-style apartments.”

It appears that’s what obama wants for us but more on the order of post WWII East Germany but ruled by National Socialist, “Nazi’s”, only with an improved secret police and greatly improved surveillance, NSA.


48 posted on 07/29/2013 9:34:21 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: equaviator; cripplecreek
I live in Macomb county and spent almost 35 years in a stamping plant on Detroit's east side and I'm about to tell ya the real reason why Macomb County grew as it has.

The vast majority of the people who have fled to the suburbs, especially north of 16 mile rd., were all auto company employees, both skilled trades and production whose incomes allowed them to purchase houses and properties not available in the city of Detroit.

Sterling Heights was the first haven for the new upper class wage earners from the auto industry and as that grew, they spread northword and the houses grew.

Macomb Twp., Utica and Shelby Twp. became the new destination of choice for the auto workers who had the incomes to build bigger houses in what was once wooded areas. Those areas are now filled with subdivisions.

The bottom line is, they left Detroit for the same reason anyone else does, a bigger house in a neighborhood that they can afford.....

49 posted on 07/29/2013 2:25:50 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: Hot Tabasco

Here in Eastern Jackson county, everybody works in Washtenaw County. Higher pay there, lower taxes here.


50 posted on 07/29/2013 2:29:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Rightwingacademic
Troy wouldn’t exist as it is today, but for the stupid Detroit politicians.

Yes it would, please refer to my prior statement. It wasn't politics and taxes that made the people flee Detroit, it was their auto company created incomes that allowed them to purchase or build homes in what was once country land............

In all fairness to the neighborhoods of Detroit, those are houses that were built in the early 1900's, as was my grandparents house on Detroit's east side.

Forget the poverty, forget the politics, forget the urban blight, in today's society, anyone making 50k a year or more is not going to choose to live in one of those old run down neighborhoods.......

51 posted on 07/29/2013 2:41:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: equaviator
One key reason why Detroit is left with so much messiness compared to other Rust Belt cities is size. Consider this: The Motor City’s 139 square miles is so vast that it could fit within its borders all of Boston, San Francisco and Manhattan. One national reporter who wrote about the bankruptcy called that “one of the most incredible factoids ever.”

Apparently that is true, though it looks like San Francisco counts water area as well as land to make itself look bigger than it is.

Every older American city went through "White flight" in the postwar period, but none ended up as badly off as Detroit (no city with its own metropolitan hinterland, that is).

Chicago came out better than Detroit, perhaps because Daley policies that liberals objected to prevented the blockbusting and the White flight from going too far or too fast.

52 posted on 07/29/2013 2:56:19 PM PDT by x
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks equaviator.
Once safely settled in suburbia, these whites would eventually lead the charge against cross-district busing and would congregate as an anti-Detroit voting bloc. That led to Macomb County political campaigns that were often won by the candidate who most effectively bashed Detroit. These white-flighters became the core of a political atmosphere in the 1980s and 1990s that made the tri-county area the most segregated metropolitan area in the nation. The Motor City’s downward spiral was put in motion... The ill-informed national pundits pontificating about Motown’s financial failure offer all kinds of ideological theories that don’t add up.
The racist party-line idealogue and demagogue that shilled out this swill should be fired; his editor should be fired; both should be blackballed; and the paper should print a front page apology and point-by-talkingpoint rebuttal of this garbage.


53 posted on 07/29/2013 3:38:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Rightwingacademic
Troy wouldn’t exist as it is today, but for the stupid Detroit politicians.

Could you add, Warren and Sterling Heights? Another machine-shop centric town, near Chrysler in it's hayday, Clawson...

Would they have all existed if they didn't get out of Detwaa and build all those business park streets along the numbered miles?

FWIW, many of these mom and pop shops are now vacant with all the changes in the auto industry from Cad/Cam to the ISO movement and then the collapse....

54 posted on 07/29/2013 3:48:35 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks.....th)
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To: equaviator; All
Oh duh...

Did anyone get this....

This was a backhanded swipe @ Reagan, it is all his fault, or his brand of Racism

After all it was the Macomb Country Democrats, i.e. the "Reagan Democrats" he is pointing at...

Think about it...

55 posted on 07/29/2013 3:52:44 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks.....th)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Yep. That is what did it.


56 posted on 07/29/2013 4:29:33 PM PDT by madison10
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To: taildragger

” it was the Macomb Country Democrats, i.e. the “Reagan Democrats” he is pointing at...”

Yeah I can see that now but isn’t it true that earlier “flights” were to Oakland County suburbs such as Southfield?


57 posted on 07/29/2013 6:31:15 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

You could be right, maybe cripplecreek will chime in, he is a better Michigander than I.....


58 posted on 07/29/2013 6:43:04 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks.....th)
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To: taildragger

“Troy wouldn’t exist as it is today, but for the stupid Detroit politicians.”

To which:

“Could you add, Warren and Sterling Heights? Another machine-shop centric town, near Chrysler in it’s hayday, Clawson...

Would they have all existed if they didn’t get out of Detwaa and build all those business park streets along the numbered miles?”


WWI, WWII, Korea, the Cold War and Space Race, Vietnam...even Desert Shield/Desert Storm...Detroit and it’s Metro area suburbs closer to 8 Mile Rd. (up to 19-20 Mile Rd.) were outfitted for wartime and peacetime manufacturing of military weaponry and equipment but only during WWII was domestic automobile production halted.

There were also the manufacturers of the machinery and tools found on the floors of shops and factories of all kinds. “The Arsenal of Democracy” in Detroit had been around since before Pearl Harbor was hit in 1941. It wasn’t until WWII that it went into overdrive and it had nothing to do with White Flight.


59 posted on 07/29/2013 6:57:47 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

The folks who got off the Titanic caused the ship to sink, right?


60 posted on 07/30/2013 6:31:02 AM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories make bad law...)
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