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Group sues FBI for records after Michael Hastings’ mysterious death
The Daily Caller ^ | 30 Jul 2013 | Josh Peterson

Posted on 07/30/2013 7:57:59 AM PDT by mandaladon

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To: rarestia

Not if I don’t have a smart phone, which I don’t.

Black boxes measure accelerator position and movement, braking system, tire pressure, steering wheel position and movement, etc. Which of these indicators are available from a smart phone?


41 posted on 07/30/2013 11:19:08 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: upchuck

Acceleration and braking can be determined by GPS very easily. Steering wheel position and movement could very simply be inferred by direction of the vehicle.

These “black boxes” are no bigger than a Tupperware container. They don’t necessarily have to be integrated into the systems of a vehicle to be useful to crash investigations, insurance companies, or government entities.


42 posted on 07/30/2013 11:29:45 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: maggief; null and void; Nachum; Velveeta; Oorang; Rushmore Rocks; MamaDearest; DAVEY CROCKETT; ...
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Article, # 19 , # 21. Other good comments in thread, too.

Thanks for the pings.

43 posted on 07/30/2013 11:37:46 AM PDT by LucyT ("What happens in Vegas stays in the Utah data center".)
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To: LucyT

Also point out MaggieF picture. Sure looks like bullet holes!


44 posted on 07/30/2013 11:58:41 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: null and void

Condoning.


45 posted on 07/30/2013 12:13:35 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Boogieman

Just want the dead man wrote in e-mails before he died.


46 posted on 07/30/2013 12:20:40 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: null and void

I have never refused to acknowledge the possibility, only the probability. It’s just not a likely scenario. When you have an unlikely, implausible explanation for something that is much easier to explain with a more likely, more plausible explanation, then you need convincing evidence before you even begin to entertain the less likely explanation. There’s no evidence like that here.

“More seriously, what in your mind would constitute evidence? Is it a high enough body count? A long enough series of remarkable coincidences? A clearly forged crucial document? “

Body counts (in and of themselves) aren’t evidence of murder, nor are coincidences. A document, well, depending on what kind of document, what is in it, and what purpose it might have been forged for, might be evidence of something, but I don’t see how that is relevant here.

“I’m just curious to know what threshold needs to be crossed for you to even question the obama administration.”

I question them all the time, I just don’t accuse them of murder when there is no actual evidence to back up the accusation.


47 posted on 07/30/2013 12:31:10 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: txhurl

What exactly am I supposed to be looking for? Seems like a blurry photo of a firefighter at a crash scene.


48 posted on 07/30/2013 12:32:30 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: null and void
This is the most interesting part of this case.

And that he was cremated against or aside from the family's wishes

And that Al Jazzy is interested in the story.

And that despite the inferno, his finger prints were still viable.

And, in my most Wolfgang voice, "a dozen other ver-rry interesting parts."

49 posted on 07/30/2013 12:33:52 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Aqua225

No, but you must have evidence that an actual crime occurred before you can charge anyone with it. That’s pretty basic stuff. It’s pretty hard to charge someone with murder if the coroner rules a death accidental, for example.


50 posted on 07/30/2013 12:34:47 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: bmwcyle

Please quote the part of the email where he says “someone is trying to kill me!” or words to those effect, that would be evidence of a murder.


51 posted on 07/30/2013 12:36:12 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: hoosiermama

Well, those look like holes, but I don’t know how you would differentiate bullet holes from any other kind of roundish holes by looking at a photo like that.

If they were bullet holes, then at least 3 people must have been shooting at the vehicle with 3 different caliber weapons, with each of them only striking the vehicle once (but somehow within close proximity to the place the other shooters hit). Whether that is likely or not, everyone can judge for themselves.


52 posted on 07/30/2013 12:39:05 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Back to the thread.

Photo at # 39.

Are those bullet holes?

See Nully's # 6 again.

Thanks, hoosiermama.

53 posted on 07/30/2013 12:47:28 PM PDT by LucyT ("What happens in Vegas stays in the Utah data center".)
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To: Boogieman

Any scientific investigation will raise relevant questions and seek answers in a dispassionate and methodical manner. Ridicule of non-asserted conclusions is not relevant to a methodical scientific inquiry.

Asking questions is not stating conclusions. It is merely asking questions.

As to the evidence of hacking, Richard Clarke himself said you will never find evidence of hacking. The only evidence one can obtain on that front is testimony by the hacker himself.


54 posted on 07/30/2013 1:03:41 PM PDT by mcsoup (Ridicule is not necessary in a methodical scientific inquiry)
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To: LucyT

And now, having ‘gotten away with the biggest fraud in the country’s history,’ he’s literally getting away with murder. All those people who said that eligibility doesn’t matter and to concentrate on the bigger things are seeing that in action now. 0bama, Holder, Jarrett, the DNC, and H3ll are getting away with murder and flinging their guilt in our faces.

YOU HEAR THAT MORRIS, O’REILLY, HANNITY, LIMBAUGH, BECK, et al. Enough with the taboo. What SHOULD be taboo is that you have no honor.

Oh, and GOP? Go onto Perdition.


55 posted on 07/30/2013 1:10:47 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: mcsoup

I would like to the NSA files before agreeing with you. Especially with your signup date.


56 posted on 07/30/2013 1:18:26 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Boogieman

The op was federal. There’ll be records of transmissions and commands. Every keystroke. Every drone video.


57 posted on 07/30/2013 1:21:14 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: maggief; LucyT

To me those holes look like side trim mount holes. Look at where the door handle that is no longer there was, they’re uniform like the others.

A car traveling at that rate of speed would make for a very tough target, especially if you are trying to target a certain spot to trigger an explosion. Even if you did it with an full auto weapon, the whole side would be riddled with holes, not just a few select spots.

Now that one on the bottom next to the rear tire, OTOH....

There is much cause for suspicion in this incident as far as I’m concerned, but I don’t think those a bullet holes.


58 posted on 07/30/2013 1:33:17 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Re. trim

Here is the side view of a Mercedes C250.


59 posted on 07/30/2013 1:49:31 PM PDT by maggief
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To: null and void

Why did it have to be hacked? wouldn’t a small incendiary device also produce the same result without all the James Bond?

Didn’t Mercedes stop using that same coolant because it was known to be flammable? (so a leaking coolant combined with a spark from the road caused by a flat tire causes the flash)


60 posted on 07/30/2013 2:06:31 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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