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Feds Investigate Couple for Online Searches (pressure cookers, backpacks and quinoa, oh my!)
Medium.com ^ | Monday, August 1, 2013 | Michell Catalano

Posted on 08/01/2013 9:40:07 AM PDT by kristinn

It was a confluence of magnificent proportions that led six agents from the joint terrorism task force to knock on my door Wednesday morning. Little did we know our seemingly innocent, if curious to a fault, Googling of certain things was creating a perfect storm of terrorism profiling. Because somewhere out there, someone was watching. Someone whose job it is to piece together the things people do on the internet raised the red flag when they saw our search history.

Most of it was innocent enough. I had researched pressure cookers. My husband was looking for a backpack. And maybe in another time those two things together would have seemed innocuous, but we are in “these times” now. And in these times, when things like the Boston bombing happen, you spend a lot of time on the internet reading about it and, if you are my exceedingly curious news junkie of a twenty-ear-old son, you click a lot of links when you read the myriad of stories. You might just read a CNN piece about how bomb making instructions are readily available on the internet and you will in all probability, if you are that kid, click the link provided.

Which might not raise any red flags. Because who wasn’t reading those stories? Who wasn’t clicking those links? But my son’s reading habits combined with my search for a pressure cooker and my husband’s search for a backpack set off an alarm of sorts at the joint terrorism task force headquarters.

That’s how I imagine it played out, anyhow. Lots of bells and whistles and a crowd of task force workers huddled around a computer screen looking at our Google history.

This was weeks ago. I don’t know what took them so long to get here. Maybe they were waiting for some other devious Google search to show up but “what the hell do I do with quinoa” and “Is A-Rod suspended yet” didn’t fit into the equation so they just moved in based on those older searches.

I was at work when it happened. My husband called me as soon as it was over, almost laughing about it but I wasn’t joining in the laughter. His call left me shaken and anxious.

What happened was this: At about 9:00 am, my husband, who happened to be home yesterday, was sitting in the living room with our two dogs when he heard a couple of cars pull up outside. He looked out the window and saw three black SUVs in front of our house; two at the curb in front and one pulled up behind my husband’s Jeep in the driveway, as if to block him from leaving.

Six gentleman in casual clothes emerged from the vehicles and spread out as they walked toward the house, two toward the backyard on one side, two on the other side, two toward the front door.

A million things went through my husband’s head. None of which were right. He walked outside and the men greeted him by flashing badges. He could see they all had guns holstered in their waistbands.

“Are you [name redacted]?” one asked while glancing at a clipboard. He affirmed that was indeed him, and was asked if they could come in. Sure, he said.

They asked if they could search the house, though it turned out to be just a cursory search. They walked around the living room, studied the books on the shelf (nope, no bomb making books, no Anarchist Cookbook), looked at all our pictures, glanced into our bedroom, pet our dogs. They asked if they could go in my son’s bedroom but when my husband said my son was sleeping in there, they let it be.

Meanwhile, they were peppering my husband with questions. Where is he from? Where are his parents from? They asked about me, where was I, where do I work, where do my parents live. Do you have any bombs, they asked. Do you own a pressure cooker? My husband said no, but we have a rice cooker. Can you make a bomb with that? My husband said no, my wife uses it to make quinoa. What the hell is quinoa, they asked.

They searched the backyard. They walked around the garage, as much as one could walk around a garage strewn with yardworking equipment and various junk. They went back in the house and asked more questions.

Have you ever looked up how to make a pressure cooker bomb? My husband, ever the oppositional kind, asked them if they themselves weren’t curious as to how a pressure cooker bomb works, if they ever looked it up. Two of them admitted they did.

By this point they had realized they were not dealing with terrorists. They asked my husband about his work, his visits to South Korea and China. The tone was conversational.

They never asked to see the computers on which the searches were done. They never opened a drawer or a cabinet. They left two rooms unsearched. I guess we didn’t fit the exact profile they were looking for so they were just going through the motions.

They mentioned that they do this about 100 times a week. And that 99 of those visits turn out to be nothing. I don’t know what happens on the other 1% of visits and I’m not sure I want to know what my neighbors are up to.

45 minutes later, they shook my husband’s hand and left. That’s when he called me and relayed the story. That’s when I felt a sense of creeping dread take over. What else had I looked up? What kind of searches did I do that alone seemed innocent enough but put together could make someone suspicious? Were they judging me because my house was a mess (Oh my god, the joint terrorism task force was in my house and there were dirty dishes in my sink!). Mostly I felt a great sense of anxiety. This is where we are at. Where you have no expectation of privacy. Where trying to learn how to cook some lentils could possibly land you on a watch list. Where you have to watch every little thing you do because someone else is watching every little thing you do.

All I know is if I’m going to buy a pressure cooker in the near future, I’m not doing it online.

I’m scared. And not of the right things.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: backpacks; benghazi; bigbrother; dhs; fastandfurious; fbivisit; homelandsecurity; impeachnow; irs; jbt; michelecatalano; nsa; obamasfault; pressurecooker; pressurecookers; stasi; thugs; tyranny
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To: Chickensoup

That is a passage well worth repeating.


41 posted on 08/01/2013 10:08:05 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: kristinn
Six gentleman in casual clothes emerged from the vehicles and spread out as they walked toward the house, two toward the backyard on one side, two on the other side, two toward the front door.

No mention of badges or uniforms yet. Something like that happens and I believe my Mossberg would have made an appearance.

42 posted on 08/01/2013 10:08:50 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: Vigilanteman

we are beyond the awkward stage


43 posted on 08/01/2013 10:09:20 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: null and void

I’m sure the FBI agent is just THRILLED to be sent to your doorstep for this as well. Takes time away from looking up high-school classmates of some contractor who’s applied for a Security Clearance to track them down and ask them if their classmate had ever been a member of the Communist Party.


44 posted on 08/01/2013 10:10:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yep. I was a total waste of his time.


45 posted on 08/01/2013 10:15:30 AM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: Black Agnes

Ideally, it would require a browser that can encrypt the search request (such as: https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere) or anonymize you as the source (see: https://www.torproject.org/)

Plus a search server that would deliver the results in a discreet form (ixQuick and perhaps startpage and duck duck go) through a proxy server setup, as explained here: http://lifehacker.com/5763170/how-to-secure-and-encrypt-your-web-browsing-on-public-networks-with-hamachi-and-privoxy

A huge pain.


46 posted on 08/01/2013 10:16:44 AM PDT by qwertyz
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To: kristinn

so... anyone saying you’re paranoid if you think they’re listening...

is just ignorant.

they ARE listening to you and watching everything you do

just the facts


47 posted on 08/01/2013 10:16:59 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: null and void

I feel much better knowing that none of Ed Snowden’s high-school classmates thought he had been a member of the Communist Party.


48 posted on 08/01/2013 10:19:48 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sten
they ARE listening to you and watching everything you do

And as one would expect the results they are getting are useless garbage.

49 posted on 08/01/2013 10:21:48 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: kristinn

The story sounds fabricated.


50 posted on 08/01/2013 10:23:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: cld51860

It has never been suffieciently expplained, as far as I know, how - with all of this out of control surveillance - they did not catch the Boston Marathon bombers.

Of course we later found out that Russia told us to watch these guys, but I would imagine arab oil money has been manipulating washington to look the other way or be attacked viciously by their owned media interests....


51 posted on 08/01/2013 10:25:59 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: kristinn

We are fully and completely the Soviet Union now.


52 posted on 08/01/2013 10:26:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Do you think the FBI really cares who has been a member of the Communist Party when the White House and Congress is currently full of them? After the cow has bolted from the barn, there is no point closing the door.


53 posted on 08/01/2013 10:27:16 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: kristinn

We should all install hidden cameras around the perimeters of our homes, over the front doorway, and even cameras inside the house that can be turned on before we leave for the day (or that can be turned on quickly when we are home if need be).

If this incident really happened as described, it would have been useful to have it all on video or digitized.

And these guys claim they do this 100 times a week?

I bet they never visit any mosques.


54 posted on 08/01/2013 10:30:24 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a chain of convenience stores.)
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To: kristinn

PLEASE tell me this is satire. This CANNOT be happening in our nation.


55 posted on 08/01/2013 10:31:44 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: TexasRepublic

I have a family member who had to get a security clearance. Virtually every surviving member of his high school graduating class (from the 1950’s!) was tracked down and asked by an FBI agent whether he had ever been a member of the Communist Party.

Did not ask much more than that.

So stay away from your high school’s Young Communist Club and you’re good to go with Federal employment.


56 posted on 08/01/2013 10:32:11 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Fresh Wind

For what it is worth:

Privacy Policy

In short:
Startpage does NOT collect or share ANY personal information!
Nada. Zilch. Nothing.

The longer version:
Startpage is strongly committed to protecting the privacy of its user community.
This privacy policy details the - very limited and non-personal - information Startpage.com (”Startpage”) may gather and our disclosure policy.
IP Addresses

The IP address that is associated with your search will NOT be recorded.

The only exception is for “abusive” (automated) queriers that rapidly submit many queries to Startpage in a very short time.
Data Collection

We don’t collect any personal information on our visitors. Nada. Zilch. Zero.

When you use Startpage, we do not record your IP address, we do not record which browser you are using (Internet Explorer, Safari, Firefox, Chrome etc.), we do not record your computer platform (Windows, Mac, Linux, etc.), and we do not record your search words or phrases. In fact, the only information we do record is an aggregate total of how many searches are performed on our website each day (a measure of overall traffic), and those overall traffic numbers broken down by language, and statistics on a purely aggregate level.

This zero data collection policy protects your privacy, since your IP address, browser, and platform information can be combined with other data to uniquely identify your computer, your location, or you. It is also important not to record search terms, since they can convey personal information as well. (Think of someone entering their own name and/or social security number.)
Cookies

Startpage does not use identifying cookies.

Cookies are small pieces of data that are sent and saved to your computer’s hard drive when visiting sites.
Startpage uses only one anonymous cookie called “preferences”. This cookie is to remember the search preferences you saved for your next visit. It expires after 90 days.
You can choose to accept or refuse cookies by changing the settings of your browser. It should be noted, however, that your Startpage.com preferences will not work properly if your cookies are turned off. It is possible to accept cookies from selected sites only.
You can periodically delete cookies from your computer’s hard drive, clearing out all historical data that may have been saved from your previous web surfing. If you delete cookies, you will not be recognized as a repeat visitor or viewer when returning to a site.
To promote a cookie-free internet, Startpage has a URL generator which eradicates the need for setting a cookie. It remembers your settings in a privacy friendly manner. It can be found at the bottom of the SETTINGS page.
External Links

As a search engine, and as an advertising publisher, you will find various links on our site, including but not limited to search results and sponsored results. These sites are owned and maintained by independent companies, over which Startpage has no control, and who are not covered by this privacy policy. Startpage is not liable or responsible for the content of these sites, or their collection of information and its use. Please note that this privacy policy applies only to the Startpage.com website. Startpage offers a proxy function that allows the users to see the information on external sites without disclosing their IP address to these site. Furher information on this great privacy tool can be found here.
Email addresses

When you send comments, questions, suggestions, or feedback to Startpage via email, and include an email address and/or contact information Startpage may use this information to respond to you.
Startpage will not sell or disclose your contact information to any third parties. We may, however, very occasionally send emails to our users regarding Startpage company information. This service is opt-in and includes the option to unsubscribe.
Children Under 13 Years of Age

Note that we do not collect any peronal data at all.

As a consequence Startpage does not knowingly request, collect, or share personally identifiable information from users under the age of 13 either. We feel protecting children’s privacy online is very important.
Information Sharing

Startpage has no personal information to share.

Startpage does not share personal information with any third party search engine or the provider of its sponsored results.

Click here for details. Governmental requests:

Startpage is headquartered in The Netherlands, Europe. Any request or demand from any government (including the US) to deliver user data, will be thoroughly checked by our lawyers, and we will not comply unless the law which actually applies to us would undeniably require it from us. And even in that hypothetical situation, we would refer to the fact we have no personal user data to share.
In the fourteen years we’ve been in business, we have never received such a request.

The only legitimate way that we see to make us start collecting personal information, is if there is a valid warrant or court order, obliging us to do so in relation to a specific user because that person is suspected to have committed a crime which is serious enough to warrant such a restriction of privacy.

Given the strong protection of the right to privacy in Europe, European governments cannot just start forcing service providers like us to implement a blanket spying program on their users. If that ever changed, we would fight this to the end.

Your privacy, our future

We strongly believe that we have the legal right to safeguard the privacy of our users by not collecting and/or encrypting their personal information, and to keep doing so.
Privacy.
It’s not just our Policy - it’s our Mission!
Operator

Startpage.com is owned and operated by Surfboard Holding BV, Postbus 1079, 3700 BB Zeist
The Netherlands. Representative for the Privacy Policy is Robert E.G. Beens. ( robert@startpage.com )


57 posted on 08/01/2013 10:32:13 AM PDT by Bronzy
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To: Buckeye McFrog

When I originally got mine they asked more than that. Of course i graduated well after the 1950s.

They also asked about my sexual proclivities, financial problems, drinking and of course drugs.


58 posted on 08/01/2013 10:34:55 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Vigilanteman; cld51860
. . . how - with all of this out of control surveillance - they did not catch the Boston Marathon bombers.

Probably because it would be racist to profile a Muslim. It is much easier to profile ordinary citizens instead.

They should go where the terrorism comes from. From Muslims. The Muzzies can do their internet searches etc in Arabic or Urdu. I doubt the FBI can deal with those languages in volume so they hassle American citizens instead. Visit enough Muszzies this way and they will raise hell and claim racism

59 posted on 08/01/2013 10:37:30 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: kristinn; maggief; penelopesire; hoosiermama; holdonnow; Liz; Perdogg; onyx

This is TRUE...further updates and confirmation:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/08/government-knocking-doors-because-google-searches/67864/#.UfqCSAXy7zQ.facebook


60 posted on 08/01/2013 10:47:57 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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