Skip to comments.Benghazi Leads to Iran, Not Al Qaeda
Posted on 08/03/2013 1:24:47 PM PDT by smoothsailing
August 3, 2013
Why is Obama doing everything in the world to cover-up the truth in Benghazi? Why is Obama administering lie detector exams every few days to all the CIA operatives who were in Benghazi?
Is it to cover-up the fact that Obama was running guns to the Syrian rebels? Why do that? Both the then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and then-CIA Director Petraeus were openly advocating arming the Syrian rebels.
Is it such a big deal that the United States was secretly arming enemies of Iran's puppet Assad through our NATO-ally, Turkey? No it isn't.
Is the fact that some of the US weapons may have accidentally fallen into al Qaeda's hands that terrible? No. Not at all.
The reason Obama doesn't want the truth of the Benghazi-to-Syrian Rebels gun-running operation to come out is that all of a sudden the "al Qaeda attacked Benghazi" narrative doesn't make any sense. For, why on earth would al Qaeda attack a gun-running operation to the Syria rebels when the Syria rebels themselves are al Qaeda? Al Qaeda wouldn't be attacking their own al Qaeda weapons pipeline.
So, Obama's real fear is not that he ran guns to al Qaeda, but that if this were known, al Qaeda would be removed as the possible suspect in the murder of Ambassador Stevens and three Americans.
That is the real problem, because if al Qaeda is removed as a possible suspect because it was benefitting from the gun-running, who's left as a suspect? Who would want an American weapons pipeline to the Syrian rebels shut down? Once al Qaeda is removed from contention, and that question is posed, there is only one answer: the Huzbullah/Iranian axis....
(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...
No, it leads to the Muslim Brotherhood...
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What a dilemma.. Hillary backs Morsi and Morsi attacks the Embassy to get Stevens as hostage to get the Blind Sheik released.
Kind of difficult for 0bama/Hillary to announce that the people who did it are the ones they back, and the ones the U.S. taxpayers were funding in Egypt. Now 0bama is paying ANYONE in Egypt with knowledge to keep their mouths shut. 0bama is BIG on hush money. Lots of lies to keep secret.
Plausible. But, certainly something big is being covered up.
Why? What was in it for them?
If that is really happening then why would any of those people think there life will go on much longer?
The article address that possibility albeit indirectly. I make this connection: The Muslim Brotherhood supports al Qaeda and to a lesser extent the other Syrian rebels, the current beneficiaries of the arms that move from Libya to Turkey to Syria.
Why on earth would the Muslim Brotherhood want to interfere with that flow?
The answer is they wouldn't. The article speculates that it is the Iranians who would want to put the crunch on such an operation. Not a bad theory.
I speculated in an earlier thread that the Libya to Turkey to Syria operation might somehow be bypassing the al-Qaeda rebels. Although that seems unlikely it is a possible motive that would give some credence to your Muslim Brotherhood theory. Particularly if al-Qaeda has independent means to secure Libyan weapons and view the CIA operation as a competitor.
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IMHO...It was a hit!..Stevens had to go...he knew too much and was balking!
I can’t believe this could happen. Didn’t Obama push the Reset button? Wasn’t that supposed to repair our relations with Iran, Russia, all Islamic nations?
We can add you to the list:
1. Scheme to make a trade for the Blind Sheik that went bad.
2. Iranian operation to stop the flow of arms to the Syrian rebels.
3. Egyptian/MB operation to stop the flow of arms to the Syrian rebels because al Qaeda was being cut out.
4. Obama needed to hit Stevens. The MB stepped in and did the job for him.
I'm sure I missed a couple at least.
Morsi needed a high-profile American hostage that he knew 0bama would trade the Blind Sheik for because 0bama would NEVER allow an Ambassador being held hostage looming over his head right before the election.. No way, no how. Hillary might have opened the door for Morsi by reducing/refusing security for Stevens.. Perhaps she didn’t want 0bama to get re-elected, either. She’s running in 2016 and he’d be a hard act for the Democrats to want to follow (if there’s a country left by then).
Russia has deep interests in Syria and Assad.
I just can't buy into that. Yes Morsi is crazy enough to do it but this couldn't have been a planned deal with Obama. No chance.
The odd thing in all of this is that it seems clear that Obama just washed his hands of it so quickly. He was AWOL that night. Yes he was off to service his highest priority the following day (fundraising, of course) but I'm still waiting for an explanation of what he was doing on the night of the Benghazi strike.
Bingo... I’d bet money on the Russians being the ones who coordinated this attack. And, THAT is the reason Obama didn’t respond... he was afraid.
Mere speculation not yet based on facts. I’m wary of removing blame from al-Qaeda which has killed American citizens on American soil and placing it on Iran which hasn’t.
My thought as well.
WE WON, WE ONE, WE ONE!!!
Osama is dead, Osama is dead!!!
Now back to the real life world of REALITY!
Obama is the biggest threat to our security...ever.
I have a theory. Blackmail. From the Bruthas; Arm us or we blow up every one of your embassies in the middle east.
Obama decided he wanted to shut the program down before it got out of control. Morsi owed Obama for putting him in power. Morsi took care of shutting down the program.
Problem was, Morsi couldn’t close the deal. Now Obama is in the crapper and for some strange reason, Morsi is still alive. I believe Morsi is still alive because that is leverage for the Israelis.
Something every one seems to forget is Israeli and Egyptian generals have been talking for 30 years. Warriors talk and they hate the politicians. And Obama has screwed the both. Which of course explains why Obama came out day one condemning this then hasn’t said a word since.
So how does Obama save some face? Israel releases 100 terrorists who will either be killed in air strikes or the Egyptian military will make them disappear. And Israel agrees to come back to the negotiating table with the Palestinians who are anti Hamas, or anti Bruthas.
But one thing had to tie it all together into a nice tight package. It’s the Mediacrats job to keep this from the American people. We need a squirrel... Hello George Zimmerman and Eric Snowden.
SEPT. 24, 2012:
SEPT. 17, 2012:
Embarrassing as HELL.
MOOOOOSADD misdirection or not?
And about time.
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My theory is aviation blackmail. Want to keep that route? It’ll costya 1K every time you run it.
‘They’ fired two missiles at a Russian airliner that exploded just below the craft.
They’d only need a thousand missiles to keep the threat permanent.
Reminds me of Berlin, before 1933, when, for a time, it was not at all certain Hitler would end up head Nazi.
It wasn't just guns given to Al Qaeda. It was thousands of shoulder launched SAM's which WILL be someday used against American and European civilian airliners. The Al Qaeda arms pipeline was not well known back then. The Al Qaeda "security" forces in Benghazi were being run by the CIA. The SAMs had all been delivered and the CIA was burning down the pipeline, eliminating the witnesses and the evidence.
Unfortunately, a couple of SEALs refused to follow orders and threw a monkey wrench into the plot and now the whole world knows about what went on there. Don't look for anything to come of it though because the Republicrats and Dumbocans and all of Mordor on the Potomac think that arming Al Qaeda is a great idea. Hyping up the threat of scary A-rab terrorists is still the best way to scare the rubes in fly over country into giving up their freedom and money.
is the blind sheik free?
My problem with the Morsi theory is that it would have been insane. Don’t forget those F-16s that we hand over to Egypt. Would you risk sacrificing all that Foreign Aid to free an old, blind sheik rotting in a American jail.
Yes, Morsi could have. But it just seems too high risk for him to actually do it.
Despite all of this I somehow think the truth will come out and possibly soon. And maybe we I’ll find that Morsi is as crazy as you must think he is. And I have to admit that he didn’t read the Egyptian tea leaves very accurately.
It is possible that Putin slapped Obama’s face at Benghazi.
Maybe Obama asked these men - men who swore they would give up their lives to defend this country - to do something that verged on treason. And now he's afraid one of them might talk.
Squirrel + Squirrel =. Nuts
That has all the brilliance and believability of "my dog ate my homework'...
Look at the people involved in Benghazi. The people on the ground - hidden from the public. Our CIA Director - discredited and gone. Our Secretary of State - gone. Our Secretary of Defense - gone. This makes Watergate look like a kids birthday party.
Libya’s prime minister went to Benghazi a few days after the consulate attack. He wanted to investigate Obamas claims that rioters protesting a video were responsible. He said that the attack was conducted by a Libyan group who were paid and led by foreigners. These foreigners could have been from Syria, Iran or even Russia.
So who benefits from the attack? That is the key to figuring this out. Who were those foreigners?
Maybe they were all suppose to die (CIA, SEALS, the whole bunch) and the center overrun and 'cleaned like a clock'... Obama stopped the FBI from going over there until after the place had been picked over by everyone INCLUDING CNN...
That has all the brilliance and believability of “my dog ate my homework’...
I’m having a similar discussion with CWB.. Morsi is crazy but I don’t think he is that crazy.
(2) They (Obama Gang) miscalculated the attack or the deaths of four Americans would be such a big deal, since media was completely in their pockets.
(3) Hilderbeast blackmailing,
she had the goods on Obama but didn't think him a serious threat to her 2012 bid. Now she's determined to have the 2016 seat.
Who would have the greatest motive to stop arms flow to the Syrian rebels ? Number one would be Assad. Number two would be Iran/Hezbollha. Number three would be Russia. Either way the US government is never going to admit that its bumbling and stumbling has started WWIII and has caused Civil War within the middle East region. People that always lean forward never have to answer for their past. Have a nice and safe Sunday !
More likely the Morsi people were extra security hired by the State Department/CIA under the radar or sent by Morsi to protect the arms pipeline. And as usual they would play all sides and request that their Muslim brethren not shoot them.
Iran's not a bad candidate, but why not RUSSIA? After all, Syria is their client since forever and the location of Russia's ONLY navy base in the Med.
The reason Russia isn't named is cuz Israel probably couldn't get the USA to attack Russia on behalf of Israel, but miiiight just prove able to get Iran.
Still, Iran is not a bad guess.
Brennan started out with the major Libyan/Turk/Syrian smuggling, but soon took to pink-misting the gents whom he didn't like out there, and their comrades had some fairly major complaints about that.
Those guys had foreign sponsorship in their attack, and it was either Russia or Iran.
Still, who in their right minds would wonder WHY Israel would prefer that America think the culprit was Iran...?
I agree with you. But I consider Russia a very, very long shot. Assad or Iran for sure.
So maybe the big secret is that we were attacked by some third rate country or countries and don't want to admit that we got caught with our pants down due to the incompetence of our President and Secretary of State.
I like it.
I appreciate the comments, but I’m not sure that holds water, using the logic in the article. And I’m not saying I totally believe the article’s logic, but it is an interesting thought.
My problem with your suggesting, is that I don’t think the Muslim Brotherhood registers as negatively as Al Qaeda does on the political Richter scale. It would be even less an affront to American sensitivities than supplying Al Qaeda would be.
I’d have to say the Iran angle carries a lot more water here, if you’re truly desperate to hide something.
Now, what I don’t get, is why you arm Iran? How does that play into Bathhouse Barry’s game plan? Does he want Iraq and Afghanistan to come unglued that bad?
Is there another angle I’m missing?
Benghazi was an Iranian/Russian hit