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Paul Ryan: Shutdown not best way to repeal Obamacare
Politico ^ | 08/05/2013 | Scott Wong

Posted on 08/05/2013 7:55:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
The 'best ways' are no longer open to us, are they now?

Eh?

Ted Sorenson's book, for which John Kennedy received a Pulitzer, wasn't all that bad, really. At least the concept was clear. It was all about individuals who acted courageously.

All I've got to say to these Republicans is "man up."

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

21 posted on 08/05/2013 8:31:35 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The shutdown would be the Clown’s fault. Just DON’T fund the monstrosity.

If the Clown vetoes the bill over that one item (that is unpopular, by the way) HE bears the blame.


22 posted on 08/05/2013 8:43:25 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind
Go away, Ryan. You are no conservative.

Maybe you, Christie and Rubio can join the Democrats and run for president. You sure won't get my vote.

23 posted on 08/05/2013 8:43:27 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: SoFloFreeper

RE: If the Clown vetoes the bill over that one item (that is unpopular, by the way) HE bears the blame.

Ahh, but will most American people realize that? Or will they blame Congress again?


24 posted on 08/05/2013 8:46:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Solution : don’t vote for E-GOP or else you are following the perscription for insanity.
Freegards
LEX


25 posted on 08/05/2013 8:46:32 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: SeekAndFind

So Representative Ryan... WHAT THE HELL IS IT??? You’ve had three years and have done NOTHING! Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way!


26 posted on 08/05/2013 8:47:54 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Who would you blame for a government shutdown?

  1. 7.41% All of Congress
  2. 11.39% Democrats
  3. 58.26% Republicans
  4. 5.25% President Obama
  5. 16.64% Tea Party
  6. 1.05% No one—bring on the shutdown!

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27 posted on 08/05/2013 8:48:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Obamacare is ALREADY FUNDED.

This defunding is 100% meaningless.

Focus on 2014 elections. Block Obama and you save the nation. An R 60+ senate and an R house make obama agendas gutted.


28 posted on 08/05/2013 8:48:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey, Ryan...Cantor...Boehner....McCarthy...Stop Carrying Water for 0!


29 posted on 08/05/2013 8:49:13 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bull SH!T, Ryan. What are YOU doing to repeal it, if not this? BOb


30 posted on 08/05/2013 8:50:29 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("The atmosphere's too cold in here to attract a butterfly like that." Al Stewart)
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To: SeekAndFind

What manner of gibberish is the once-eloquent Ryan now uttering?


31 posted on 08/05/2013 8:51:17 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: SeekAndFind

Stop worrying about “blame” and do what is RIGHT you brainless asses.


32 posted on 08/05/2013 9:00:52 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SeekAndFind
“We, all Republicans, want to repeal and replace Obamacare
YOU FRIGG'N LIBERAL MINDED IDIOTS!!!

WE DON'T WANT YOUR BIG GOVERNMENT "REPLACEMENT" EITHER!!!

MIND YOUR OWN FRIGG'N BUSINESS!!!

33 posted on 08/05/2013 9:03:41 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: grania
Why does Paul Ryan want to replace Obamacare with anything? It's been established the feds shouldn't be involved.

Time for a third party. The standard bearers of the republican party all like to play along with democrats and big govt. A brief history as I recall.

Eisenhower: First R since New Deal. Did not attempt to dismantle big govt.

Nixon: Next candidate and future president. As president he did price controls, passed EPA and other big govt programs.

Barry Goldwater: Real conservative. He got over half the delegates for the R nomination, but because some delegates weren't legally bound to Goldwater, there was a small chance to defeat him at the convention. And that is what the Rockefeller Republicans tried to do. They didn't have a good chance of success and failed to replace Goldwater. But they certainly helped the left paint him as some sort of Kook candidate. I doubt the liberal republican wing was sad to see him lose.

Ford: Moderate republican. Duh. Reagan tried to unseat him, but the machine was too powerful.

Reagan: Like Goldwater, a real conservative. He had to fight tooth and nail to beat the forces that destroyed Goldwater.

GH Bush: He ran on the campaign of a KINDER AND GENTLER country. I guess he wasn't satisfied running as an extension of the Reagan years. You know the tax cuts and best economic growth the country had seen since the Great Depression. You know, how Reagan restored America's strength around the world and had communism on the ropes. He ended up raising taxes and became a one-term president.

Dole: A real genius for talking about himself in the third person saying "I'm Bob Dole." Another wishy washy moderate.

GW Bush. He talked about compassionate conservatism running in 2000. After he won and had both houses of congress, a first since FDR, the conservative movement had cause to believe real change could be made. Instead of say making govt smaller and less intrusive, the government expanded "big time." He federalized education, created the DHS and added a new entitlement for old people just to think a few big govt ideas that came about on his watch.

Juan McCain. RINO ...nuff said

Romney. He invented the blueprint for Obamacare and was the least conservative candidate in the primary (right?). But he had the liberal wing and money behind him from the start. Guess that is all you need to ramrod your candidate over the objections of the rank and file. He got even fewer votes than Juan McCain if memory serves.

So there is my analysis of the alternative to the Democrat Party since the New Deal. On a national level we can choose from some tax and spend democrat, or some pro-business republican who usually ends up taxing and spending. Maybe not as much as a democrat. He might even say he doesn't like it. But with the exception of Reagan, every president has made/enabled govt to grow.
34 posted on 08/05/2013 9:07:24 AM PDT by BJ1
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To: SeekAndFind
The chairman of the House Budget Committee says there's a better way of repealing President Barack Obama's health care law

The House just passed, what... the 40th attempt at repeal. How again has that worked out????

35 posted on 08/05/2013 9:14:47 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Uh...yeah. They’ve been “having a debate” about how to stop it for how many years now???

Perhaps the idiots in the GOP should stop debating and just frigging DO IT.


36 posted on 08/05/2013 9:16:34 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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