Posted on 08/05/2013 11:26:07 AM PDT by xzins
Senators, representatives, and their top aides will be able to stay under the current subsidized health care system.
That means they will continue to get a taxpayer-funded contribution to help pay for their health care premiums.
A last-minute deal worked out before Congress went on their five-week summer vacation gets lawmakers out of the original language of Obamacare, which said members and their aides had to use its health care plans.
Republicans like Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana slammed the move, calling it a "behind-closed-doors deal, announced right after Congress is safely away from the crime scene."
"This is exactly why America rightly hates Washington," Vitter charged. "Obamacare's a train wreck, even for Congress. So it gets fixed -- for Congress only. What the flip about fixing it for America?"
How much more are we going to take?
I did not say anything about the imposition of martial law by decree. It can be imposed without such a declaration such as Watertown and as you demonstrated - will be accepted and considered justifiable in the name of safety and security.
A decade plus and we’re still taking off shoes, belts and submitting to every humiliation a TSA agent decides if we want to fly. We watch grannies get harassed, Children touched, vets having to humiliate themselves and strip their prosthesis from themselves. We make no waves. We tolerate every injustice - so we can get our little piece of what we need. Seatbelt checkpoints and soon ObamaCare Insurance proof. We tell ourselves that we need to trade a little liberty for security so we are “safe”. We tell ourselves that if it’s for the children, or the environment or the poor or the minority - we need to accommodate and surrender everything from the amount of water in our toilet to what we can eat at a movie theater.
That is not a hallmark of a people who are going to resist the imposition of tyranny. We already tolerate the tyranny and make excuses to tolerate it. We shrug our shoulders and say ‘what can we do’?
You have not answered a single one of my questions postulated, you ignored them because they make my point if you answer them honestly.
You are too much wishful thinking about how this country is going to react when facts, history and human nature are honestly considered. Even recent history.
You put your faith in a people who are allowing and accommodating every infringement on their liberties in the name of safety and security or fairness. You are trusting a people who sat on their hands while their free exercise of faith was rendered irrelevant in the culture until government became this culture’s god.
If this people are not going to stand up for their faith in the culture - why should we assume they are going to stand against the imposition of tyranny and subjugation when half the country wants to be dependent on government for their subsistence?
A people that refuse to believe and accept what is happening to them never arrive at the point they are able to resist the absolute horror their own government is going to unleash on them.
They are the ones who end up in mass graves.
You didn’t read the part about Cole, Coburn’s fellow senator from Oklahoma?
And, where were all the warning shouts from our representatives letting us know this was coming up?
I didn’t get a single letter, email, etc.
My other question is why you’re giving me a hard time over this? I didn’t either decide it, write it, or do it. All I said was that it had conservative complicity which I had read about. I showed you exactly what I’d read, and you’re still making like I’ve done something wrong.
I’m not your congressman. Go complain to him. And especially if he didn’t send you an email alert about this.
If you can’t back up what you post, then think before posting anti-conservative progressive propaganda.
Perfect
I did back it up. Didn’t you read?
Interesting but frustrating that neither my Congressman-R nor my Senators-D-R cared enough to send an alert out on this, when they’d normally brag about any mundane action or accomplishment that those in Congress could tout.
Their web pages say nothing about this either. If I hadn’t read it here it would have been an under the table none event. I’m convinced the problem we face in America goes well beyond politics to blatant gross political elitism and corruption, and a media that always covers for them. Will the pundits even say anything about this?
If your congressman didn’t send you an outraged email or have on his website how he is rejecting this, submitting a bill to repeal it or a bill to get members on record with a vote on it, then he’s going along.
It’s that simple.
What do you call that? The appeal to pusillanimity?
They don't have enough fellers to go around, if every productive taxpayer just refused.
It is not practical to expect that, however, so I advocate legal means. Do the right thing. Homeschool the kids, quit the second job, cut the income tax payment. Then when you realize the sky doesn't fall when you live on less money, cut back more until you don't make enough to have to pay income tax at all.
That's the safe and legal way to deprive the government of the only thing that matters to it. The only thing that gets their attention. The only thing it needs to function. Your financial support. Money.
Start planning, and put your representatives on notice. Do it as publicly as you can, to encourage others and to put the fear where it belongs: in the bloodsucking political class.
We don't need a million march. A million right-thinking, fed up, self-reliant Americans could do this from home.
Spoken like a loyalist.
if you vote for the republicanIf you pay income tax then YOU SUPPORT THIS CRAP AND SUPPORT THIS BEHAVIOR.....
period
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INVAR, that was beautiful.
Windflier, you’re a great freeper, one I respect and generally agree with. I believe you would personally resist as a true American should. But I believe you will go down fighting without much support from your neighbors, if it ever comes to that.
Only if the enemy can’t break your spirit, does it muster the energy to break your body.
“We don’t need a million march. A million right-thinking, fed up, self-reliant Americans could do this from home.”
I hope you’re right because we’ve been led by the nose for too long. We’ve become soft in the USA. Most are too lazy to even vote let alone go to a town hall meeting, or call or write Congress, or God forbid express our right to peaceful assembly on the street. They divide and conquer us.
The media leads us around by the nose with stories about royal babies in England and hyped crime stories, and covering for the real criminals in DC. They kept us saturated for a month with Michael Jackson (so his promoters could sell his crap), just as Gabby Giffords, Boston Marathon, Zimmerman and Newtown (so gun grabbers and fearmongers have more impact), while the political elite rig the game and shaft us behind the scenes. In public they tell us a concocted but different story how they oppose all that makes us angry.
My friend, you are engaging in magical thinking. FedGov doesn't need our "money" - they can print their own. All they need is for foolish people to continue serving in the military which acts as international muscle to enforce the dollar standard.
This house of cards would fall fast (and will eventually do so) when the dollar standard collapses. Ain't no amount of tax receipt deficits gonna effect the octopus. Even today, freshly rolled bennie bux are a significant portion of the budget.
Consider our economy today - no one actually "works" in a productive field. People are either marginally employed, on some kind of benefit, or work in the public sector, which is actually another form of welfare.
So, even today, the whole thing operates on phantom money that recipients quickly exchange for real assets. That is, unless they are forced to re-cycle dollars to purchase treasuries, which is what currently impose on the Saudis & Chinese.
When this cycle is eventually broken, all the chickens will be coming home to roost.
You mean this?????
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/08/03/executive-nullification-why-obama-wont-allow-congress-to-legalize-his-changes-to-ppaca/
That’s already been shown as not pointing to any conservative Congressman and only infers Coburn.
You make a good point here. I definitely will be asking my reps.
And the other article takes on BOTH Oklahoma senators.
And, you’re right. The silence of the congress-critters on this speaks volumes, doesn’t it?
Ok, before slamming the republicans in the house of representatives,
THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE HAS VOTED TO REPEAL OBAMACARE FOR ALL AMERICANS ON 40 DIFFERENT OCCASSIONS.
IT IS THE DEMOCRAT SENATE AND DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT STOPPING REPEAL.
THE ONLY REPEAL THAT THE DEMOCRATS ALLOWED WAS FOR CONGRESS AND THE REPUBLICANS TOOK IT.
It is sort of like the choice McCain had in Vietnam only the republicans took the other choice. McCain could have gotten out of jail early but chose to remain with the others. Here the republicans decided to take what they could get and go home.
I get emails from my congressman all the time in my very conservative district. I haven’t gotten one on this.
Have you?
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