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Rural Coloradans to vote on breaking away as 51st state, angered by liberal policies on guns, energy
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Posted on 08/20/2013 3:23:55 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Rural Coloradans to vote on breaking away as 51st state, angered by liberal policies on guns, energy

DENVER — You've got North Carolina and North Dakota, so why not Northern Colorado?

Voters in several rural Colorado counties will be asked whether they want to form a new state tentatively named Northern Colorado in the November election, a reaction to the Democrat-controlled state legislature's "war on rural Colorado."

The Weld County Commissioners voted unanimously at Monday's meeting to place a measure on the Nov. 5 ballot asking voters whether they want the county to join other rural counties in forming another state.

"The concerns of rural Coloradans have been ignored for years," William Garcia, chairman of the Weld County Commissioners, said in a statement. "The last session was the straw that broke the camel's back for many people. They want change. They want to be heard."

Three other rural counties — Cheyenne, Sedgwick and Yuma — also plan to place the 51st state referendum on the fall ballot. At least three more counties plan to consider the proposal this week at their commission meetings, said Jeffrey Hare, spokesman for the 51st State Initiative.

Known for its agriculture and oil and gas production, Weld is the largest of the Colorado counties exploring a break with the state after the legislature's sharp turn to the left with bills restricting access to firearms and doubling the state's renewable-energy mandate for rural areas.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: colorado; northerncolorado

1 posted on 08/20/2013 3:23:55 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

How the Libs in the state legislature and in the cities react to this will be quite interesting.

My guess is that they will come out and say that the Northern Counties have no right to do any such thing and are subservient to the rest of the state.


2 posted on 08/20/2013 3:30:47 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Sub-Driver

But then Colorado wouldn’t be square. It’s one of only three states I can draw.


3 posted on 08/20/2013 3:31:16 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: Sub-Driver

I would. Liberal cities are known havens and cesspool petrie dishes of terrorism and Marxism.


4 posted on 08/20/2013 3:32:14 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Sub-Driver

Per the Constitution all you need is 50,000 people and the consent of congress and consent of any states involved.


5 posted on 08/20/2013 3:37:00 AM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Sub-Driver

Cities are a blight on the face of the earth. They attract evil doers as manure attracts flies.


6 posted on 08/20/2013 4:09:18 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m all for this, but does it have a chance?


7 posted on 08/20/2013 4:09:31 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Sub-Driver
How 'bout "Western Pennsylvania" - the rest of the state except Filthy-delphia as the next breakaway?

Yeah, yeah Pittsburgh is a Democrap haven, but the folks are good.

8 posted on 08/20/2013 4:13:08 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Palin was right (again)!)
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To: Sub-Driver

What would Hunter S. Thompson do?


9 posted on 08/20/2013 4:17:28 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

Like, I know, right.


10 posted on 08/20/2013 4:42:57 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The fight against the obuma fascists is happening on the local and state levels. For conservatives complaining that nothing is happening to fight the rat criminals, here’s one example. Let’s see if the mammon-worshipping conservatives get off their butts, organize, elect leadership and support these Colorado patriots.


11 posted on 08/20/2013 4:43:09 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’d like to see Texas separate from Austin.


12 posted on 08/20/2013 4:44:55 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Sub-Driver

Most of Pennsy should abandon Philly and Upstate NY should leave NYC. Then Jersey can give Camden to Philly and Newark to NYC.


13 posted on 08/20/2013 4:48:22 AM PDT by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: MattinNJ

I like the idea of gerrymandering the states to create new and conservative states. Leave the urban blight to the libs and let them wallow in their own self-destruction. The large cities have ruled national elections too long. For instance, in Ohio, we have 88 counties. In 2008, 67 of these counties went to John McCain, but the largest ones - Hamilton, Franklin and Cuyahoga are the most populace, so our state went blue. This shouldn’t be.


14 posted on 08/20/2013 4:55:53 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus
But that's where all the vote fraud is....how do you expect the commie ‘Rats to steal elections if you segregate the fraud centers from the rest of the states?

It would be easier to combat the hold the ‘Rats have in these centers of corruption then to start breaking apart states...IMHO.

15 posted on 08/20/2013 5:18:36 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Catsrus
“Liberal cities are known havens and cesspool petrie dishes of terrorism and Marxism.”........

You must be from Madison or Milwaukee, Wisconsin since those two cities certainly fit the description.

About 40 years back, northern Wisconsin folks contemplated forming a new state called “State of Superior”. The plan included Upper Michigan, Northern Wisconsin and No. Eastern Minnesota. Obviously, it didn't happen.

16 posted on 08/20/2013 5:18:45 AM PDT by Progov
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To: txrefugee

>>Cities are a blight on the face of the earth.

They are the Ba’als hanging from the golden calf.


17 posted on 08/20/2013 5:42:24 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Progov

A new state means two new senators.

I don’t think those would be left wing.

Two new states means four new senators. And so on.

For those reasons, I don’t think the establishment will permit it (unless they manage to get new states of their own—Puerto Rico, DC, etc.) to match.


18 posted on 08/20/2013 5:42:31 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Sub-Driver

Its the war on conservative Colorado, not the war on rural Colorado. There is no way for my deeply conservative county to be contiguous with the possible break away counties. If this does go through, I wont be the only one considering a move to the north.....


19 posted on 08/20/2013 5:45:05 AM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: Sub-Driver
Counties involved:

Graphic from Wikipedia.

20 posted on 08/20/2013 5:48:43 AM PDT by upchuck (My therapist says I have a preoccupation with vengeance. We'll see about that!)
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To: Sub-Driver

This would be a great precedent if it occurs, showing other areas how to secede.


21 posted on 08/20/2013 5:56:54 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: Sub-Driver

AS a Coloradoan outside the area I would vote to let them! ...then move there.


22 posted on 08/20/2013 6:36:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s always been the big-city bastions of smut and crime that drive the states. I say go for it, and starve out these parasitic areas.


23 posted on 08/20/2013 7:11:59 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Sub-Driver

While I support the idea of Northern Colorado, I really don’t see this happening until the Dems are no longer in power in the State. Perhaps a better fix would be to change the State Senate so that each county has one Senator representing them. This would require a change to the state Constitution and likely just as difficult.

With 64 counties, there would be only about 6 “city” like counties, greatly reducing the power of the cities in the legislative process. Currently the CO State Senate has 35 members (4 years per term, two term limit). Current make up is 20 Dems and 15 Republicans. If the two recall elections are successful, the mix will change to 18 Dems and 17 Republicans heading into the 2014 elections.


24 posted on 08/20/2013 7:32:01 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: upchuck

51ststate.org

Color codes

25 posted on 08/20/2013 7:36:24 AM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: taxcontrol

Both houses of Congress have to approve by a majority vote.

The president cannot veto it.


26 posted on 08/20/2013 9:19:41 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: A'elian' nation

I am under the impression that the State itself will have some input into that process. And as long as the State is under the Control of the Dems, it wont happen.


27 posted on 08/20/2013 9:38:22 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: eCSMaster

How about the Republic of Texas.


28 posted on 08/20/2013 10:29:24 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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To: kitchen

Are the two “white” counties there actually currently in Kansas?


29 posted on 08/20/2013 10:30:50 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Yes. No mention of any of the Nebraska interests though.

In other news, Moffat County commissioners held a meeting this A.M. with public comments on the 51st State Initiative. Didn't get the notice until too late.

30 posted on 08/20/2013 12:26:42 PM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: kitchen

I think I recall some mention of some Nebraska counties wanting to join in some of the early reporting on the “North Colorado” story.


31 posted on 08/20/2013 1:02:26 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: A'elian' nation

The Colorado legislature must also approve of the action.


32 posted on 08/20/2013 5:25:19 PM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: MattinNJ

I’m in.

Let me know when we’re going to do this...

BUT...Even Philly doesn’t want Camden. It’s the Armpit of the Universe.


33 posted on 08/20/2013 6:42:55 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Colorado has to let them go


34 posted on 08/20/2013 6:59:01 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Some of the western counties have wanted to join Wyoming for years. My only issue is that gives more power to Omaha


35 posted on 08/20/2013 7:01:16 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: taxcontrol

You are right, and I took that for granted. It has to be state approved first which as you say is debatable.

Just wanted to point out what is required for statehood after the state hurdle. The good thing is that OweBowMao plays no part in the process - constitutionally anyway.

Not that that has ever stopped him.


36 posted on 08/21/2013 7:29:27 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: A'elian' nation
I am 100% sure that the Dems will not want 2 more Republican votes in the Senate and will use any means to prevent that from happening.

And since the Dems control House, Senate and Governor here in Colorado ......

37 posted on 08/21/2013 8:07:35 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Progov

East Tennessee = State of Franklin.


38 posted on 08/21/2013 8:15:12 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why not East California, East Oregon, and East Washington?


39 posted on 08/21/2013 8:18:03 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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