Skip to comments.Airman Punished for Opposing Gay Marriage Files Complaint
Posted on 08/20/2013 6:42:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
An airman who was relieved of his duties after he told his commanding officer that he could not support gay marriage has filed a formal complaint with the military alleging he is the victim of religious discrimination.
Senior Master Sgt. Monk, a 19-year veteran of the Air Force was punished after he disagreed with his commander when she wanted to severely reprimand an instructor who had expressed religious objections to homosexuality.
I was relieved of my position because I dont agree with my commanders position on gay marriage, Monk told Fox News. Weve been told that if you publicly say that homosexuality is wrong, you are in violation of Air Force policy.
The Liberty Institute filed a formal complaint against Major Elisa Valenzuela on behalf of the Christian airman.
Major Valenzuela asked SMSgt. Monk if he could agree with her belief that openly voicing a religious or moral opposition to same-sex marriage is discrimination, the official complaint reads. Because of SMSgt. Monks sincerely held religious belief, he could not agree with the major. As a direct result, Major Valenzuela immediately relieved SMSgt. Monk from his First Sergeant duties and reassigned him to a different unit.
Monk was also banned from returning to his units building and required special permission to retrieve his personal belongings.
Liberty Institute attorney Michael Berry said the majors actions are a violation of the law....
(Excerpt) Read more at radio.foxnews.com ...
Sounds like a workplace incident. Nothing to see here.
shouda kept his mouth shut for 1 more year.
Along with recordings.
What about Muslim opposition to gays? I bet no one cares about that, only Christians.
Yea, to bad he chose to practice his moral values ...
Going against a two pointer (possibly 3 pointer) he doesn’t have a chance.
He was reassigned to another unit, he’s still in the Air Force.
FUCH for being one of Barry's butt boys.
He should get every FR’s support!
shouda kept his mouth shut for 1 more year.
The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing
Just like the military/political complex....”Nothing to see here. Move along. We can’t be prosecuting gays for being an ass, and seeking retribution for not having her lifestyle endorsed by a subordinate.”
DoD has long ago been turned into a social engineering incubator, with the clear intent of undermining our military effectiveness and the broader culture.
Seems like here at FR wussy brass gets despised for allowing this to go on in the military (civilians who are ultimately in charge sure don’t have the gonads for it) and, yet, when a 19 year guy with credibility takes it on Freepers call him a s muck for sticking his neck out
He didn’t get separated. If they try to take away a 19 year guy’s retirement over this kind of thing it will look a lot different from this.
When people in this country start figuring out that we can not ride on the coattails of the accomplishments of our forefathers, such as defeating Hitler and getting guys to the Moon and back, it will also look different
It will look like this guy taking a risk for a most noble cause
And it’s not about hatred of anyone and certainly not about homosexuals. It’s about what’s always worked just don’t ask don’t tell and don’t harass- both sides
More info here:
Major Valenzuela knows nothing of command.
Good men did nothing when the first farming laws were passed. Good men did nothing to represent Miller the second time.
So......98% of muslims should be kicked out of the military, then.
No, they get an exemption, just like Obamacare and polygamy.
She’ll probably be a major general by 2017.
If she was a Commander on my boat, the COB would have serious words with her.
You might run this boat, but I run these men.
Mr. Obama isn’t done until 2017.
You are right. *puke*
From what I remember, first shirts can lose the diamond at the drop of a hat. In our technical training squadron our first shirt gave his keys to an Airman leading a barracks detail to open a closet door and didn’t get them back. Our first shirt bounced out of there the next day like he had a bungee cord around his ankles.
shouda kept his mouth shut for 1 more year.
If you deny the Lord before the world, He will deny you before the throne.
USAF First sergeant in the grades of E-7, E-8, and E-9
In the United States Air Force, First Sergeant is not a rank, but a special duty held by the senior enlisted advisor of a military unit who reports directly to the unit commander. This billet is held by individuals of pay grades E-7 through E-9 (Master Sergeant, Senior Master Sergeant and Chief Master Sergeant), and is denoted on the rank insignia by a lozenge (known colloquially as a "diamond"). Often referred to as the "first shirt", or "shirt", the first sergeant is responsible for the morale, welfare, and conduct of all the enlisted members in a squadron and is the chief adviser to the squadron commander concerning the enlisted force. Most units have a master sergeant in this position, while larger units use senior master sergeants and chief master sergeants as first sergeants.
The DOD is socialism. It’s a giant, highly political bureaucracy. That we can fight and win wars still is a miracle. Chop it down to a peace time size.
Apparently, the Vatican has a "Smoke of Satan" problem and now so do we.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Maj. Elisa Valenzuela (right) is welcomed home by Col. David Orr (second from left)and former New England Patriots quarterback Steve Grogan (far left) during the Heroes' Homecoming celebration Dec. 12 at Hanscom Air Force Base, Mass. The event welcomed home more than 45 base Airmen who deployed during the past six months. Colonel Orr is the 66th Air Base Wing commander. (U.S. Air Force photo/Linda LaBonte Britt)
...looks like a real wiener.
Such a "reassignment" is usually a career-ender. At least as far as promotions go.
He will me made to pay for his "infraction" one way or another. The homos have infiltrated our military in the highest ranks. The unit to which he has been reassigned likely has a sodomite somewhere in its chain of command, and the old dyke commander will no doubt trumpet the "fresh meat" horn to the new unit's degenerates upon his transfer.
“openly voicing a religious or moral opposition to same-sex marriage is discrimination”
So much for the Constitutional assurances of Freedom of Speech, and Freedom of Religion. And they died without a whimper, because many of us were “too busy with life” to take the time to protest for right.
Would openly expressing support for homosexual same sex marriage be discrimination?
The good news is our military opponents tend to be even more socialized.
We have trouble with terrorists because they are less socialized.
Modern version of Primus Pilus of the Romans: First Spear.
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He was guilty of blasphemy!
Without accepting that mark of the beast he will be denied his livelihood.
The all out war against Christians continues unabated.
That is why we are in this mess of sodomite control and “reeducation camps” for Christians. (In America!!!) (Afraid to speak Truth against power/money).
As Pastor Bonhoeffer stated a half a century ago (and we are just like the “good” Germans)-— “Silence in the Face of Evil, is evil. To not Speak, is to Speak. To not Act is to Act.”
When Good men do nothing-—evil will take over. We are almost finished now because “good” people are outnumbered and the evil ones took control of the courts and can destroy anyone who speaks against the sodomites (the Truth).
Our public schools have conditioned children for 50 years to be fearful of being different from the group— “herd mentality” —dependents-—and that “up is down” so they are as irrational as the Marxists/sodomites who are pure evil.
The sodomites finally got total control of the courts/institutions/Presidency/Military/Boy Scouts/Schools——and if we don’t turn it around-—our children will be stupid/immoral and corrupted and warped-—thinking exactly like all the kids in Afghanistan where sodomy is “great” and the main hobby of the men and boys..
“Evil is Good” “Vice is Virtue” in our irrational “Justice” System —taught in schools and glorified in TV/Movies....and it is the children who are going to be warped and destroyed growing up with such an irrational, evil, warped worldview where Christian morality is being eradicated and replaced with Satanic Ethics. Parents are so corrupt they allow the minds of their children to be warped by Hollywood and public schools with irrational junk.
Because muslims are all sodomites. That is the big secret. As Walid Shoebat stated on the Michael Savage radio show-—the Saudis prefer boys for sex. Same with the Afghanis: http://www.examiner.com/article/afghan-pedophilia-a-way-of-life-say-u-s-soldiers-and-journalists
The Saudis have controlled what we do in this country for a decade or more—and that is why our muslim, homosexual President forced sodomy into the military-—to normalize muslim ethics-—and why the Boy Scouts now is like that homosexual German Boy Scout group in the late 1800s where orgies with the boys in the woods were routine..
.....just conditioning our little boys to think that sodomizing others is “Good” and a “Right”—to take Pride in anal sex for the NWO which is full of sodomites like that John Maynard Keynes. They have to rid us of Christian Ethics-—because that is where the worldview “Individual Rights from God” came from. They want a collective of slavers for their use.
AMEN to that!
I can tell from what little I know that this woman is a pathetic excuse for a commander. Unfortunately, this seems to be the norm in today's military. I spent 11 years in command positions during my years in the AF and ANG, and it just sickens me (actually, infuriates me) to see this happen.
He should pursue the lawsuit. He may have a chance of winning, and hopefully get her relieved of command and discharged (a twofer). But perhaps I am dreaming. In any case, the action will definitely cause her a lot of grief, and maybe serve as a warning to the next loser with rank not to try it. If he did nothing, this type of behavior would continue to grow. There must be consequences, otherwise it will happen again and again.
Being prevented from voicing a religous opposition to same-sex marriage is a violation of the !st Amendment ("...nor the free exercise thereof"), and to not be able to voice an objection based on moral beliefs otherwise a violation of freedom of speech.
While I understand rules are different under the UCMJ, one must consider that this is being used to cow the general population as well.
Why should the 98% be subject to sensitivity training, dismissal, or lawsuit, to suit the perversions of the two percent?
This is now the group “defending” us. Learn Chinese.
Learn strategy, tactics, logistics, weapons systems, as much about as much as you can, and hope there will remain enough competent operators to provide air cover. That could be a DIY war.
Pigs ass 2ndDV. We will defend ourselves.You know there are enough of us that wont take this crap.
Explain 5 years of Obama, then.
I am surprised that the NCO in this situation didn’t request the see this major’s commander. In the Marine Corps we have the absolute right to “request mast” all the way to the commanding general if we believe that we have been wronged by our immediate commander. Doesn’t the Air Force have this right
There has to be at least one rational leader in that chain of command..
If this punishment for thought crimes stands it would be the mark of he beast.
She could be holding a sign “Punish those who blaspheme Homosexuality”
Not necessarily that way any more.