GOP candidates need a better Republican Party

Does the Republican Party need better candidates? Or do Republican candidates need a better party? Even now the GOP is choosing candidates for the 2014 election, especially for the U.S. Senate. Primary hopefuls are jostling for position. And the dominant questions are: “Will tea-party primary challengers cost the GOP elections?” and “Who can actually win against the Democrat?”

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But as the GOP recruits and trains better candidates, will anyone train Republican insiders how to run better campaigns for GOP candidates? Do we have a worse, more urgent problem with the Republican establishment and consultant class than with the next crop of candidates?

Democrats defend their candidates aggressively. The same quality of candidate will get better support from the Democratic Party than a similar Republican candidate will get from the GOP.

It’s the Stockholm Syndrome. Republicans come to psychologically identify with the liberal bullies. When a Republican comes under attack, other Republicans hope to appease the media by denouncing their colleagues. It’s like the joke about two men running from a bear. The first says you can’t outrun that bear. The second answers I don’t have to outrun the bear, I only have to outrun you. Journalists attacking the other guy are ignoring me.

Consider Richard Mourdock who ran for U.S. Senate in 2012. Mourdock’s one gaffe would have gone unnoticed except for the scandal about Todd Akin. But Republican leaders jumped in the feeding frenzy, as always.

Can readers find fault with Richard Mourdock as a candidate beside that one gaffe? In 2010, Richard Mourdock won 62.5 percent of the vote statewide in re-election for Indiana treasurer. Mourdock’s 2010 vote grew from 52 percent in 2006.

RE :’AND YET.... you come away with the false impression that anyone on the GOP side was talking about birth control, simply because the Democrats wanted to give that impression, and the Republicans are too incompetent in campaigns to respond”

Was no false impression, making a HUGE show the GOP house passed some laws intended to remove the birth control mandate from O-care, the most popular give-away in the bill, with no hope of being law.

And they talked and talked about it (birth control) on camera endlessly. Then Rush calls fluke a slut over it, and the ‘right on’ crowd cheers as if this is a huge win against Obama.
It was an insane and suicidal show as if intended to drive voters away, then comes Akin and Murdock with their gaffs,

I was almost as if they were on Obama’s side.

Romney was another disaster , he did his own damage on the 47%.

RE :”Also, don’t run if you suck on 90% of the issues : )”

I need to find that list I made up.

One went like ‘If you are going to repudiate all your real positions just to win the primary then try to run back the other way in the general election to be left with nothing to say during the debates but grin and act stupid then DONT RUN’

But that was only one of them.

At the time mid October I was critical here of Romney being mum on Bengazi in the debates and man I got some crap for it here. I kept being lectured that Romney had the election 'in the bag' and so he shouldnt take such risks. Well Rush assured them that Romney had already won the election and Rush is ALWAYS RIGHT cos he says so, so they had to believe.

The Akin one was poison. There was no way to defend it to anyone who wasnt part of that cult, and they would accept anything.

It would be child's play to defuse Todd Akin's comment. Any campaign consultant or operative who couldn't handle Todd Akin's comment in 30 minutes after being awoken in the middle of the night with no preparation doesn't belong in politics.

The problem is that the GOP establishment WANTED to destroy Todd Akin. They were looking for an opportunity. They didn't want a conservative to win the US Senate seat.

And having created that cannibalistic feeding frenzy, they lost the Indiana seat as well in the tornado.

Winning the US Senate seat for Todd Akin would have been child's play if the GOP cared more about winning elections than about purging conservatives from the Party.

First and foremost, there are so many tactics to avoid one comment from even getting noticed. The Democrats would have crowded the issue out of the headlines and simply buried it with other topics.

But when the Republican party condemns its own nominee, THAT becomes a HUGE news story -- not because of what Akin said, but because of the "MAN BITES DOG" quality of the GOP condemning its own candidate.

Was no false impression, making a HUGE show the GOP house passed some laws intended to remove the birth control mandate from O-care, the most popular give-away in the bill, with no hope of being law.

Religious liberty has nothing to do with birth control. It is about paying for your own sex life.

It was not and is not popular.

Having birth control paid for by Obama Care is an embarrassing JOKE. You are kidding yourself if you call it popular.

Democrats tried to claim that Republicans were going to ban birth control. That was a total lie. But the Republican Party is too incompetent to respond.

” I need to find that list I made up.

A very GOOD one.

” At the time mid October I was critical here of Romney being mum on Bengazi in the debates and man I got some crap for it here. I kept being lectured that Romney had the election ‘in the bag’ and so he shouldnt take such risks. Well Rush assured them that Romney had already won the election and Rush is ALWAYS RIGHT cos he says so, so they had to believe. “

You also correctly said that Romney had to attack Obama on other key issues, and you got flamed on those too. Being right isn’t always easy : )

” The problem is that the GOP establishment WANTED to destroy Todd Akin. They were looking for an opportunity. They didn’t want a conservative to win the US Senate seat.

And having created that cannibalistic feeding frenzy, they lost the Indiana seat as well in the tornado.

Winning the US Senate seat for Todd Akin would have been child’s play if the GOP cared more about winning elections than about purging conservatives from the Party.”

The Rove/Lott Corporate RINOplex # 1 job the past 10 years or more, is to purge conservatives who run for office. Destroy them at all costs. They are winning as of now.

RE :”Religious liberty has nothing to do with birth control. It is about paying for your own sex life.
It was not and is not popular.
Having birth control paid for by Obama Care is an embarrassing JOKE. You are kidding yourself if you call it popular.”

Super popular especially since it cost the employer more in insurance if they dont use it. And it cuts down on abortions too.

OK, so some Catholic church associated employers objected to it because the church opposes contraception. So at least that Catholics would appreciate GOP for this even if no-one else did. Right???
But then few days later boom, a bunch of Catholic Bishops slam the same GOP House members for proposing cutting food stamps and medicaid and on illegals.
DUHHH?

So now the GOP fools are left totally standing alone on it, the ones they were ‘protecting’ stab them publicly, and they cant even get it into passed law anyway. Shoot themselves in head for NOTHING.

Besides you are contradicting yourself, you said birth control was never an issue. Now you are arguing that it was a valid issue.

Super popular especially since it cost the employer more in insurance if they dont use it. And it cuts down on abortions too.

It costs about $9 per month to get "the pill" from Walmart.

No, it is not a popular provision in Obama Care. No one was calling for it. No one cared about $9 per month for birth control. There was and is no problem with birth control.

You can walk down the aisle at the supermarket with birth control on the shelves. You can buy boxes of 36 condoms for about $19. That should be enough for a month.

Since birth control is cheap and easily affordable, adding it to Obama Care does not reduce abortion. Any one who does not use birth control now (previously) is simply irresponsible and will still have just as many abortions.

The problem is that Democrats lie about the topic, as with other topics. And Republicans are too incompetent at campaigning to respond and counter Democrat lies.
,br> Finally, you obviously think having birth control paid for by Obama Care is a good thing.

So you are obviously not a conservative and your perspective on Republican campaigning is not entirely helpful to Republicans.

RE :’<8i>The problem is that Democrats lie about the topic(birth control) , as with other topics. And Republicans are too incompetent at campaigning to respond and counter Democrat lies”

Exactly,
Republicans like Akin who explained that wimmin dont have to worry about getting pregnant if they get raped bevcause nature wont allow it , unless they really wanted the rape, wink, wink.

Then the cheer leading nutbags who rally around these two's crackpot explainations as if they came from Moses themselves.

Pretty much the suicidal message they sent to wimmin is that socons oppose BOTH birth control AND abortion because they skipped basic biology class as a kids and picked it up from a comic book instead.
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When messaging is this terrible there-is always a possibility that covert Dems infiltrated and are joining in to further Obama’s agenda by supporting this stuff, because that is EXACTLY what they did.,

RE :”Finally, you obviously think having birth control paid for by Obama Care is a good thing.”

If you were to read every word I posted I said that it was a great trap for Obama to set for those who are clueless and they did like mice running for the cheese in the mouse trap. And they did.
Being a male the benefit does nothing for me personally.

The Akin and Rush and a few other responses went far beyond what Obama probably exacted it to yield in election rewards.

So not only is the BC mandate STILL NOW in place but the rest of O-care is too.

This is what happens when those who shoot their own troops with those dumb statements are taken as heros.

RE :”Finally, you obviously think having birth control paid for by Obama Care is a good thing.” If you were to read every word I posted I said that it was a great trap for Obama to set for those who are clueless and they did like mice running for the cheese in the mouse trap. And they did.

Health insurance, and all insurance, is about paying for large costs of unexpected injury or accident or unexpected illness.

Insurance is NOT for routine expenses that (a) you KNOW you are going to pay for (not unexpected) and (b) you CHOOSE to pay for.

That is why I say it is not a conservative position. One can afford to pay $9 to $19 per month for their own birth control, even $50 to $100 per month.

And sexis by its very nature a cooperative experience. If a man will not contribute tot he cost of birth control a woman should dump him... not dump the cost on insurance.
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However, you assume that Obama Care paying for birth control is popular... because it was in the headlines.

This is my point. Even you believe that what is reported or discussed in the news media represents reality.

Simply because it was trumpeted by the liberal news media, you assume that that reflects the reality of what the American people want.

This reflects the utter failure of the Republican Party to know how to handle political issues and debates in the public eye.

RE :”Health insurance, and all insurance, is about paying for large costs of unexpected injury or accident or unexpected illness.”

That sounds like auto-insurance. Health ‘insurance’ is already nothing like real insurance, real insurance is allowed to charge you based on risk/

Once again with all the terrible crap in Obama-care for the nutbags in the GOP to singularly select this birth control give-away, which is prescribed because it helps regulate wimmins hormones (nothing to do with sex) and it even helps reduce abortion and single wommen motherhood with any luck, was just dumb.

Then to claim that wimmin will naturally reject conception after sex wo birth control ‘if they really want to’, and that if they dont buy that stupidity then they must be a ‘slut’, is a Dems dream.

If you got 100 things you object to in a bill you dont focus on the single one that you are sureto lose, unless you are blind.

Exactly, Republicans like Akin who explained that wimmin dont have to worry about getting pregnant if they get raped bevcause nature wont allow it , unless they really wanted the rape, wink, wink.

A perfect example, because TODD AKIN NEVER SAID THAT.

You just repeated the Democrat LIE about what Todd Akin said.

That's my whole point: Instead of the Republican Party being competent to handle those controversies, Republican insiders pile on, adding to the feeding frenzy and inflaming the false impression that you just repeated.

Todd Akin said:

o Doctors told him what he was stating. He never said it was his opinion. He never said that it was his idea. He said that is what he had been told by doctors.

[Quite naturally, the failure of both Akin and the GOP to zero in on that, hopefully go find those doctors and trot them out in public is a failure of handling the controversy successfully.]

o Todd Akin said that pregnancy resulting from rape is RARE.

Doctors do confirm this is true. Stress does delay ovulation. If a woman has already ovulated, a rape will be slightly less likely to result in a pregnancy because of the trauma. If a woman has not yet ovulated, the trauma and stress can postpone ovulation, making pregnancy impossible. Remember that pregnancy can occur if insemination occurs about 24-48 hours before OR after ovulation.

Akin did not say that pregnancy from rape is impossible...

Akin correctly said that we cannot make policy about killing a human being around something that is RARE. He is right. That is pure logic and common sense that you don't focus on something that is rare and miss the overall point.

o Todd Akin also noted indirectly that some rapes are REAL (actual rapes "legitimate rape") and some rapes ARE NOT RAPE.

You seem to have a problem with that with your "wink wink" comment.

Have you heard of Tawana Brawley? She just finally started making payments from a lawsuit from when she LIED and claimed she was raped and finally admitted she was LYING.

Have you heard of the Duke LaCrosse players? The prosecutor was disbarred over the false allegations of a rape that never occurred.

Or as Rush that explained that wimmin who like the idea of the ‘free’ Birth control are sluts just like Fluke is, as if birth control is only used to avoid pregnacy, or as if Rush has any credibility lecturing on moral issues himself.

Once again, Rush Limbaugh NEVER SAID THAT. You repeat a Democrat lie as if it were true.

Rush Limbaugh analyzed Sandra Fluke's claim that Georgetown law students are spending $3,000 per month on birth control.

Since you can buy 36 condoms for about $19, anyone spending $3,000 per month on birth control would mean that a woman was having sex dozens of times a day.

So Sandra Fluke was calling her fellow law students sluts... and that is exactly what Rush Limbaugh said.

So, what do we make of your comment?

1) You know that, but you are lying.

2) You are uninformed and fall for whatever the liberal news media says

Pretty much the suicidal message they sent to wimmin is that socons oppose BOTH birth control AND abortion because they skipped basic biology class as a kids and picked it up from a comic book instead. The only people who oppose birth control are Catholics who are often NOT conservative but who are actually liberal and vote Democrat. Catholics oppose birth control on religious grounds, not for any lack of knowledge of biology.

NO other social conservatives oppose birth control.

Again your comments are either telling lies of your own or repeating lies by liberals.

So again my point is that the Republican Party is horrible at dealing with political controversies. GOP moderates repeat and spread Democrat attacks on Republicans. That was my thesis.

RE :A perfect example, because TODD AKIN NEVER SAID THAT.
You just repeated the Democrat LIE about what Todd Akin said.”

HA, his exact words were recorded on video

“It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down”

The problem with your strategy is you try to convince people that what they actually heard and saw themselves was some sort of hypnotizing illusion created by ‘those bad guys’

Then when no one buys it, who would, its all because someone else didnt ‘fight back’

These are his exact words on camera. all Dems had to do was play the recording, you expect GOP to convince voters to ignore their own lying eyes and ears. Its silly

RE :”NO other social conservatives oppose birth control”

That is exactly my point, why it was so idiotic to take a stand against it in Obama-care.

Out of 100 bad things in Obama-care you pick the one thing that no-one opposes not even conservatives, except a few Bishops who hate conservatives anyway.

Then you demand we not believe our own eyes and ears.

And on this thread you even started making arguments that you claim were never made. Like birth control is about 'paying for your own sex' you said yesterday. Now you claim Rush never made that argument.

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