Allen West: The Gangster Culture Is the Real Race Conversation that We Need to be Having

Pajamas Media ^ | 08/23/2013 | Bryan Preston

[SeekAndFind]

Our own Col. Allen West appeared on Hannity last night and took on the gansta culture that appears to have heavily influenced the murder of Chris Lane in Oklahoma one week ago today. West, who hosts at our sister site Next Generation TV along with John Phillips and Michelle Fields, told substitute host David Webb. “It is a gangster culture out there. It is a culture that is being permeated throughout the media, and throughout the entertainment industry, that we need to start speaking out about. And furthermore, when you think about the fact that 72% of black babies are being born out of wedlock, this is the…second and third order effects that we have seen in the inner city, in the black community, and in other communities where it’s spilling over. So that is the real conversation that we need to start having,” West said. He noted that “when I was 15, when I was 16, my parents ensured that I was not bored.” The teens accused of shooting Chris Lane in the back claim that they killed him out of boredom.

Juan Williams responded, “Let me be blunt, where are the civil rights leaders? Why aren’t we hearing from the civil rights leaders out there leading marches and protests against violence, against the drug dealers, against the bad schools, saying to young women, ‘Hey, this is madness’” before citing out-of-wedlock birth statistics among white, Hispanic and black babies. Williams slammed Jesse Jackson for criticizing President Obama when he tried to speak on the issue of the fractured black family. Williams charged that “I just think that is another sign that these people are all in bed, literally sometimes, with the pornographers, you know, a blind eye to the drug dealers, a blind eye to the people who tell you ‘It’s thug life, or no life.’”

A father in Duncan, OK, where the three teens allegedly killed Chris Lane, has said that the boys had tried to recruit his son into the Crips, and threatened him when he resisted.

Williams continued: “I just think this is a tragedy, and they’re always playing the victimization card.” He also noted that black men are killing other black men in massive numbers, “and that gets almost no attention.”

Webb asked LTC West (USA-ret) what we do about the gangster culture and the fractured black family.

West responded, “I think we have to go into the ‘hood. Look, I was brought up in the inner city of Atlanta, Georgia, the same neighborhood that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was born and raised in. Now we’re going to have the 50th anniversary of Dr. King’s ‘I Have a Dream’ speech next week. I wonder how many leaders are going to stand up and challenge and speak, just as Juan just did, and bring up some of the points that I did, to say that we’re not fulfilling that dream? As a matter of fact, we’re going backwards.” West offered to go into inner city neighborhoods and historically black colleges with Williams to talk about issues facing the black community, and Williams praised West, while warning him that even Bill Cosby came under fierce criticism from civil rights leaders when he spoke out on these issues.

West, who served 22 years in the United States Army and served in combat in Iraq before being elected to Congress, isn’t likely to back down in the face of critics. He told Williams: “I’ve really been shot at, and so the words and the barbs, they don’t bother me.”

Watch the exchange here.

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Biology is certainly a factor, and so are welfare payments, at least to the first generation of poverty mommas.

But after that they’ve got to see the downward spiral, the lack, the difficulty of no father in the mix who cares, and the abject lack of hope.

So, “Why are black families broken?” is still a question I’m thinking about. Right now it ties to “Why now so much, and why in the past not so much.”

We have been given over to our nature.

[SauronOfMordor]

In the past, unmarried girls who got pregnant had to be supported by their families and relatives. It gave the whole extended family an incentive to ensure it didn’t happen, and to tell young girls the bad fate that would await them if it did happen.

Civilization is all about parents instructing kids about consequences. Remove the consequences, and the kids stop listening.

If girls knew they would have to support the baby by going out and getting a job (or starve), they would stop having babies outside marriage to a steadily employed man.

[xzins]

There are plenty of cultures and times where reproduction bore no relationship to the ability to provide.

Given over to their nature.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks SeekAndFind.

[GOPJ]

Now we’re going to have the 50th anniversary of Dr. King’s ‘I Have a Dream’ speech next week. I wonder how many leaders are going to stand up and challenge and speak, just as Juan just did, and bring up some of the points that I did, to say that we’re not fulfilling that dream? As a matter of fact, we’re going backwards.” West offered to go into inner city neighborhoods and historically black colleges with Williams to talk about issues facing the black community, and Williams praised West, while warning him that even Bill Cosby came under fierce criticism from civil rights leaders when he spoke out on these issues.

West, who served 22 years in the United States Army and served in combat in Iraq before being elected to Congress, isn’t likely to back down in the face of critics. He told Williams: “I’ve really been shot at, and so the words and the barbs, they don’t bother me.”

It appears 'the conversation' about race is starting. Hats off to both these good men... even if Williams is a liberal...

[Darren McCarty]

That’s what’s called a target if SHTF.

[GOPJ]

I clicked on one of the links yesterday to this site - said it was down. Then I checked my cookies - and sure enough there was a cookie from the site. I suspect that's easy to do with the equipment from the Department of Homeland Security. Is this dude using their stuff to push his hate? I'd like to know. Too bad the New York Times isn't a real paper... it'd be a cool story.

[Yosemitest]

Here's more information on the exact guilty person who was directing the purchase of all those bullets.

DHS Employee Placed on Leave Over Website Claiming Black People ‘Are Going to Have to Kill A Lot of Whites’ to ‘Survive the 21st Century’, Aug. 24, 2013

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) employee who ran a website preparing black people for an “unavoidable, inevitable clash with the white race,” has reportedly been placed on paid administrative leave.

Fox News reported on Saturday that Ayo Kimathi, an acquisitions officer for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), was told on Friday that he is being put on paid administrative leave, following a series of news reports highlighting his controversial website.

As TheBlaze previously reported, his website, “War on the Horizon,” is dedicated to educating black people to prepare for future racial warfare.

“The 21st century will either mark the return of Black resistance to white domination or global white-on-Black genocide leading to our complete extinction,” the website declares. “Warfare is eminent, and in order for Black people to survive the 21st century, we are going to have to kill a lot of whites – more than our christian hearts can possibly count.”


On its main page, War on the Horizon says preparing for racial warfare includes “intellectual, spiritual, psychological, and physical preparation for a global clash that will mean the end of white rule on this planet or the end of the Black Race as we know it. ”

Neither the DHS nor ICE immediately returned calls from TheBlaze on Saturday seeking comment. TheBlaze was also unable to reach Kimathi for comment.

And from Fox News:

DHS Official Put On Leave For Racist Website, August 24, 2013



Washington – A racist website predicting and advocating for a race war has lead to a DHS employee being put on paid administrative leave.

An acquisitions officer for Immigration and Customs Enforcement who deals with small businesses, Ayo Kimathi, operates the website War on the Horizon. It includes descriptions of an "unavoidable, inevitable clash with the white race." Kimathi is black.

Kimathi has been with the department since 2009. He was told Friday that he is being put on paid administrative leave.

His website criticizes whites, gays, those of mixed race, and blacks who integrate with whites. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups, earlier this week reported on Kimathi's role in running the site.

Kimathi hasn't responded to email and phone calls requesting comment.

Let's get the "TARGET" correct.

[GOPJ]

The man that started that web site works for the Department of Homeland Security, and had to ask for PERMISSION FROM the Department of Homeland Security BEFORE he put the site up. The Department of Homeland Security APPROVED him to put the site up! Wait! What?!?!?! So Mr. Race War on the Horizon is the guy who is buying up all the Bullets!?!! My G-d!

The Department of Homeland Security seems intent on going after the political enemies of Obama. They've 'forgotten' the American people set them up to protect us from the people who killed 3,000 American on September 11th. The jerks were NOT set up to go after conservative American citizens. This is beyond Nixonian...