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Calif. city looks to seize loans to ease mortgages (Richmond)
Associated Press ^ | Aug 25, 2013 9:39 AM EDT | Paul Elias

Posted on 08/25/2013 9:53:31 AM PDT by Olog-hai

When the mayor of Richmond, Calif., and a gaggle of activists and homeowners showed up at the Wells Fargo Bank headquarters in downtown San Francisco this month, they were on a mission to speak with the bank’s chief executive.

They wanted the bank to drop a lawsuit aimed at stopping Richmond’s first-in-the-nation plan to use the government’s constitutional power of eminent domain to “seize” hundreds of mortgages from Wells Fargo and other financial institutions. …

Wells Fargo, three other banks and even the Federal Housing Finance Agency think otherwise.

The banks have filed two lawsuits alleging that the plan is an illegal abuse of eminent domain, which allows governments to seize private property for public use—like a house in the path of a new highway or a piece of land needed for a new park. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2liberal; 2stupid; eminentdomain; loans; mortgages; richmond; tooliberal; toostupid; wellsfargo
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1 posted on 08/25/2013 9:53:31 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

...and the lawlessness goes on, and on, and on...


2 posted on 08/25/2013 9:56:17 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OFCITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: Olog-hai

It just goes to show you. An effing politician will do anything, ANY THING for a vote. As long as he is not using his own money.

I can’t say here what I think should happen to these public servants, but it involves a dark street.


3 posted on 08/25/2013 9:56:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai
Pure government theft.

Richmond Mayor Gayle Mclaughlin

4 posted on 08/25/2013 10:02:15 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Olog-hai

If they succeed there will be no new loans written in that city......ever.


5 posted on 08/25/2013 10:03:34 AM PDT by Thurifer the Censer (If you can see the altar, there's not enough smoke)
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To: Gaffer

Politicians and corporations deserve each other. Corporate America successfully lobbied SCOTUS to use ED to seize private property for private development, now their left wing counterparts in gov are going to use ED to alleviate homeowners who are underwater with their mortgages. Corporate America have no one to blame but themselves when they lobbied to expand ED beyond its original intent. If business can play that game, radical leftist can do the same. US needs to amend the Constitution to return ED to its specified original intent and make it illegal to expand beyond it for corporations or leftists.


6 posted on 08/25/2013 10:05:23 AM PDT by Fee
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To: Olog-hai

IMHO if, and hopefully it’s a very large if, the City of Richmond goes through with its eminent domain seizure of property it will stop any recovery in the nation wide housing market.

After all, what bank will make any loans to anyone who needs a mortgage to buy a home? Remember banks, like any other business need to make a profit (they too have bills and taxes to pay). Financing loans that get stolen from them means they will lose money, in large scale lots.

In this future environment, the only people who could get a home loan are those who could buy the property, for cash, outright.

I find it interesting that the dimocratic push for everyone to be able to buy mansions regardless of their financial ability may come crashing to earth by the actions of a greenie.


7 posted on 08/25/2013 10:06:20 AM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
If they succeed there will be no new loans written in that city......ever.

They are too stupid, or too Communistic, to see that.

8 posted on 08/25/2013 10:09:33 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Olog-hai

Is everyone forgetting the requirement the seized property must be paid for by the seizing entity?

The city would have to pay off the mortgages (and it would be GREATER of the remainder or market price) out of its coffers. In cash.


9 posted on 08/25/2013 10:11:05 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (This space for rent)
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To: Menehune56
Is that a "female" Michael Moore?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

10 posted on 08/25/2013 10:15:59 AM PDT by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: freedumb2003

Everyone at Richmond City Hall is certainly forgetting. Until it’s time to pay up, that is.


11 posted on 08/25/2013 10:16:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SatinDoll
...and the lawlessness goes on, and on, and on...

Eminent domain was supposed to be invoked only for "public use" projects. That has changed. Eminent domain can now be used for "public benefit" projects. A Supreme Court ruling awhile back said so.

And that's the road to communism. Now the government can seize property because, in the government's opinion, someone else can derive a greater "benefit" from it.

12 posted on 08/25/2013 10:19:54 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: freedumb2003
Is everyone forgetting the requirement the seized property must be paid for by the seizing entity?

Very true. But who sets the price? It should be the free market. But it will be a judge instead. And if you think the judge will have to be fair, just remember what happened to the GM bondholders.

13 posted on 08/25/2013 10:22:44 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Olog-hai
There's another way to look at this situation.

If banks want to do business in town after this (a big IF) they will have to charge more for loans that are still good - i.e. the homeowners who didn't buy too much house for their income and pay their mortgages. Once again those who pay their bills are paying for deadbeats.

Banks could also return to redlining (unofficially of course).

Or they could just leave town...

14 posted on 08/25/2013 10:24:47 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: freedumb2003
The city would have to pay off the mortgages (and it would be GREATER of the remainder or market price) out of its coffers. In cash.

It appears the city is talking about seizing the mortgage rather than the house itself and then paying the mortgage holder a reduced amount because the fair market value of the collateral has deteriorated. We do live in strange times, but I don't think this will fly under the banner of eminent domain.

15 posted on 08/25/2013 10:44:58 AM PDT by etcb
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To: freedumb2003

In another piece on this idiot idea it was explained that the city (theoretically) resells the new, reduced mortgages to a private investment group. Which they think will work because the new mortgages will be (again theoretically) well below the so called market value of the property.

Besides the out and out communism here, I suspect there is a crony capitalist factor that is not being revealed. Some Dem crony is going to make a boatload of money on this.


16 posted on 08/25/2013 10:49:15 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Nip

The seizure requires payment under eminent domain.

The city doesn’t have the money needed to purchase the property


17 posted on 08/25/2013 10:51:04 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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18 posted on 08/25/2013 10:58:05 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Olog-hai

So they’re gonna nationalize private property?

Typical Socialists.


19 posted on 08/25/2013 11:11:13 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Olog-hai
Ironically, these idiots may be doing the banks a huge favor by seizing property like this. They'd probably have to pay off the mortgage, and in cases where the home is underwater that may be a great deal for the bank.

Remember -- a government isn't "stealing" anything in an eminent domain condemnation, since the rightful owner does have to be compensated for the property.

20 posted on 08/25/2013 11:20:50 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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