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Georgia Marine vet loses fight to fly American, Marine Corps flags
FoxNews.com ^ | August 27, 2013 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 08/27/2013 4:16:02 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

A retired Georgia combat veteran has lost his fight to fly his American flag and U.S. Marine Corps colors outside his home in an Atlanta-area retirement community.

MyFoxAtlanta.com reports that the board of directors at Marine Capt. Jim Lowe's community in Griffin voted against changing a rule on outside decorations that threatened his patriotic display.

Sun City-Peachtree's codes state that each home in the retirement community can only have one flag, but Lowe fought the rule, arguing that the traditional Marine Corps battle color is not a flag.

Lowe told the station in July that he received a code violation notice from management informing him that he and his wife would face fines of up to $25 a day and a possible lien on his home if he did not remove one of the flags.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: flag; georgia; marines; military
WHAT A WAY TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
1 posted on 08/27/2013 4:16:02 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

..alternate...*smiles*


2 posted on 08/27/2013 4:23:02 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: moonshinner_09
Buy a very large flag of each. Attach to the back of jeep or pickup. Park in driveway. What are they going to do then? ;)


3 posted on 08/27/2013 4:23:06 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Habakkuk 2;Isaiah 55)
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To: moonshinner_09

1. If you buy a home in one of these HOA communities, you have to follow their rules.

2. In fairness to the HOA, if they waived their rule for him, they would have to let everyone fly whatever flags they wanted.


4 posted on 08/27/2013 4:24:51 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: moonshinner_09
Here are the *offensive* flags.

Lowe told the station that the board's decision is a game-changer and that he and his wife have no choice but to pack up and move out of the community.

Sad. But, I can't say I blame him.

It's a sad day when we can't fly the flag(s) we fought for and under. Thank you for your service, sir.

5 posted on 08/27/2013 4:27:55 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I agree with your statement about HOA’s; I worked for an HOA management company, and you couldn’t PAY me to live in one of those communities. Who want to by a house with the name of the HOA ALSO on your deed?! Insane!!!

The rules are mostly spelled out. Buyer beware.


6 posted on 08/27/2013 4:28:40 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: moonshinner_09

People buy into neighborhoods like this because they don’t want to be subject to someone else’s opinion of taste. If exceptions are made and residents may fly flags as they please, how long until the rainbow flags start showing up?


7 posted on 08/27/2013 4:30:00 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: fwdude

An absolute requirement before I buy is ‘no HOA’.


8 posted on 08/27/2013 4:36:05 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Jane Long
Sun City-Peachtree's codes state that each home in the retirement community can only have one flag, but Lowe fought the rule, arguing that the traditional Marine Corps battle color is not a flag.

It's the number of flags, not which ones. I'd have to agree that the Marine Corps colors would be considered a "flag" in the ordinary meaning probably used for interpretation. I doubt the HOA contract distinguishes between flags, colors, standards, guidons, etc.

9 posted on 08/27/2013 4:36:23 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: moonshinner_09

I’d make drapes or curtains for my front window out of flags. Don’t think the community can control the curtains in your house.


10 posted on 08/27/2013 4:39:05 PM PDT by mia
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To: FoxInSocks; 444Flyer
Then I'm with 444...

Buy a very large flag of each. Attach to the back of jeep or pickup. Park in driveway. What are they going to do then? ;)

11 posted on 08/27/2013 4:40:31 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Your second point is an important one. I’m very familiar with how the law treats these HOAs in some states, and as a matter of course lawyers will typically advise their HOA clients to strictly enforce their rules when it comes to this sort of thing. Otherwise, they may find themselves on the wrong side of a legal battle with someone who wants to fly a Nazi flag, a flag with obscene words or images, etc.


12 posted on 08/27/2013 4:40:33 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: FoxInSocks
... Lowe fought the rule, arguing that the traditional Marine Corps battle color is not a flag.

I could sympathize with the guy until I read this. Trust me, folks -- you don't want someone like this living next door to you.

13 posted on 08/27/2013 4:46:47 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Jane Long

Well, the garrison flag is 20 feet by 38 feet, but it’s only flown on Sundays and holidays. Except by car dealers, who seem to fly them every day.


14 posted on 08/27/2013 4:46:55 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Jane Long

The Stars and Stripes are always to be above any other flag or standard, so the guy is doing it wrong anyway.


15 posted on 08/27/2013 4:48:20 PM PDT by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: metesky

I thought it just had to be to the left, as you’re looking at it/them. Like on a gate entry, etc. (Stars and stripes on the left, Texas Lone Star on the right. Same level.) Unless they’re on a flag pole.


16 posted on 08/27/2013 4:51:17 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: moonshinner_09

HOAs are fine; they help preserve property values. However, this HOA is a POS and the best way to affect the HOA is to be on the board. I’ve been on 3 and that is the only way to curtail the namby pampy pissants who do things like they did to this hero.


17 posted on 08/27/2013 4:53:54 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” John Wayne)
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18 posted on 08/27/2013 5:01:41 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: metesky
The Stars and Stripes are always to be above any other flag or standard, so the guy is doing it wrong anyway.

I wonder if they were attempting to make the flags appear uniform and balanced, so that the HOA couldn't argue against one flag being higher than the other?

19 posted on 08/27/2013 5:05:29 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Habakkuk 2;Isaiah 55)
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To: Jane Long

Just have to get a little creative. I hate to think they might move because of this. I’d love to have them as a neighbor.


20 posted on 08/27/2013 5:06:03 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Habakkuk 2;Isaiah 55)
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To: moonshinner_09

Reviewed and accepted rules when he obtained the residence.

There is a procedure to change the rules, if his neighbors agree with him.


21 posted on 08/27/2013 5:10:59 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: moonshinner_09

Best not to live in communes or collectives governed by Progressive HOAs.


22 posted on 08/27/2013 5:24:01 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Progressives are never accountable for "unintended consequences" .... just for causing most)
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To: Jane Long

Correct. The flags in the picture are appropriately displayed (there is a perspective issue with the picture but we can guess that the Marine mounted the brackets correctly).


23 posted on 08/27/2013 5:25:19 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: metesky

Your are wrong sir! The US flag position is to the “right”, the senior position, exception to this is, when an odd number of flags are flown, it is also allowed to be posted in the “middle” but at a higher level when placed in the middle.

s/f


24 posted on 08/27/2013 5:31:44 PM PDT by CardeadInKy ("The problem with Liberalism is that eventually you run out of other people's money" -Marg Thatcher)
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To: CardeadInKy
Your are wrong sir! The US flag position is to the “right”

I believe that's the flag's right, or the viewer's left.

25 posted on 08/27/2013 6:09:04 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: mia

Oh yes they can, mine does. Curtains must be white to the outside.


26 posted on 08/27/2013 6:36:03 PM PDT by lula (Shine the light of truth Lord, confound the deceiver I pray...AMEN!)
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To: metesky

Incorrect, pogue.


27 posted on 08/27/2013 8:49:29 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; CardeadInKy
I stand corrected...

By the way CardeadInKy, great screen name.

28 posted on 08/27/2013 11:46:28 PM PDT by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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