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Motorcycles running red lights? It's the law... sometimes (Wisconsin)
Milwaukee J-S ^ | 28 aug 2013

Posted on 08/28/2013 3:05:14 AM PDT by rellimpank

West Allis resident John Glass used to pull up to intersections on his motorcycle and sometimes find he was stuck.

Traffic lights remained red because they didn't sense his bike, and the longtime motorcycle enthusiast would have to take a roundabout route or wait for a car to come and trigger the sensors.

Today, Glass knows what to do: He simply runs the red lights.

With thousands of Harley riders descending on Milwaukee this week for Harley-Davidson's 110th anniversary celebration, you might see quite a few motorcyclists running red lights — and they have the right to do so, under certain circumstances.

A 2006 state statute says motorcyclists and bicyclists can go through red lights if they believe traffic signals aren't picking up their presence, if the intersection is free of cross traffic and if they've waited at least 45 seconds.

The problem, Glass said, is not a lot of people, including police officers, seem to know the law exists.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: bikers; harley
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To: Alberta's Child

Where it is being used, video detection equipment helps with the problem - it helps a lot, in my experience.

But there are still many localities that use the old magnetic detectors, and these are often not adjusted to sufficient sensitivity to detect a motorcycle.


21 posted on 08/28/2013 5:17:08 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: logic101.net

In what way are motorcycles exempt from any laws?

Please, do tell...


22 posted on 08/28/2013 5:18:27 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: rellimpank

Houston has this law, I think, for late nights when traffic congestion is low. Must stop first.


23 posted on 08/28/2013 5:22:55 AM PDT by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: rellimpank

I could use the same law for my car. It is a compact, gets great gas mileage, and gets me to and from work reliably, etc etc. There are several intersections around town where the sensors are not quite sensitive enough to pick up my car.


24 posted on 08/28/2013 5:25:00 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: cuban leaf

I like those as well. There needs to be more of that, where appropriate.


25 posted on 08/28/2013 5:29:23 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

I like those as well. There needs to be more of that, where appropriate.


It’s funny though. Where they would often REALLY be helpful, they are intentionally not offered. The ones I know about are old style for a reason though. They are entrances to “back roads” used to avoid the main arterials to avoid the traffic and they don’t want people using them.

It’s just like Lake Washington Blvd in Renton near the Seahawks training building. It has a 25 mph speed limit and lots of arbitrary stop signs. It is all there to discourage people from using it to bypass the nightmare that is I-405.


26 posted on 08/28/2013 5:33:17 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: rellimpank
There should be no penalties for bypassing malfunctioning signals, if you take the proper care.

27 posted on 08/28/2013 5:44:28 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: rellimpank
There should be no penalties for bypassing malfunctioning signals, if you take the proper care.

28 posted on 08/28/2013 5:44:28 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: logic101.net
Why not? Noise laws don’t seem to apply to them, why should other laws?

Harley Davidson: A machine that turns gasoline into noise without side effects like horsepower.

My Yamaha has the OE exhaust. It is so quiet I cannot hear the engine over the wind noise at interstate speed. I frequently hear noise machines half a mile behind me.

29 posted on 08/28/2013 5:59:47 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: logic101.net
Why not? Noise laws don’t seem to apply to them, why should other laws?

Good point. I have often wondered if motorcycles would sell if they were quiet as cars. I really, really doubt it.

30 posted on 08/28/2013 6:27:41 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: rellimpank

In Missouri, we have “dead red” rules. If you sit through a cycle without it changing, you can run it when it is clear.


31 posted on 08/28/2013 6:29:25 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Who knew? Bikers are allowed to run red lights!

My interpretation of "running" a red light is failing to slow down or stop. In this case the biker is required to stop and may proceed if it is safe to do so. Big diff.

32 posted on 08/28/2013 6:39:04 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: jsanders2001

...or with a guy who has a gun.


33 posted on 08/28/2013 6:42:08 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: rellimpank

In Colorado we can treat malfunctioning lights as stop signs. I lived a few years back in a suburb and the light never detected my motorcycle. After a single cycle of skipping my lane I waited for traffic to clear then left.


34 posted on 08/28/2013 8:15:57 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: OldPossum

I can’t speak for everyone, but I have several motorcycles which are as quiet as cars, and I have some motorcycles that are not as quiet as cars.

I like them all...

...because they are motorcycles, NOT because they do or do not make noise.


35 posted on 08/28/2013 8:35:39 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals
Harley Davidson: A machine that turns gasoline into noise without side effects like horsepower.

Not all Harleys are loud. Mine isn't, because I want to be able to hear my tunes when I ride. Some believe that loud pipes are useful for alerting motorists to your presense. I'm 50/50 on that. I've seen it actually happen. You could actually see the cager startle when he heard the bike.

Personally, I prefer a quieter ride.

36 posted on 08/28/2013 10:21:22 AM PDT by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: zeugma

Bless you.


37 posted on 08/28/2013 10:36:49 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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38 posted on 08/28/2013 11:46:54 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: rellimpank

I always ran red lights at night in:

Bogota
Barranquilla
Santa marta
Cali
Medellin
Tunja
Rio del Janeiro
Sao Paulo
Guat city
Kingston
Lima
Belo horizonte
Recife
Salvador
Asuncion
Tegulcigalpa
Lagos
Freetown SL
ANYWHERE SOUTH AFRICA
Port au Prince really has none you just drive away from sound of technicals to get up the hill

Old now....cannons are spiked dammit though down here we have some war zones


39 posted on 08/28/2013 11:57:01 AM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: rellimpank
been this way for years in Tennessee. The sensors don't pick you up, so after one cycle, if the intersection is clear, one yields in all directions, then proceeds.
40 posted on 08/28/2013 12:55:42 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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