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NSA Leaker “Outed” as Russian Agent
http://noisyroom.net/ ^ | August 27, 2013 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 08/28/2013 9:42:19 PM PDT by Whenifhow

Edited on 08/29/2013 6:23:20 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

The media have been given important new information in the case of NSA leaker Edward Snowden and don’t seem to know what to do with it. Snowden has been “outed” by the Russians as their agent.

The Washington Post reports that “Before American fugitive Edward Snowden arrived in Moscow in June—an arrival that Russian officials have said caught them by surprise—he spent several days living at the Russian Consulate in Hong Kong, a Moscow newspaper reported Monday.”


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1 posted on 08/28/2013 9:42:19 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

They’re just playing head games.


2 posted on 08/28/2013 9:45:16 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Whenifhow

So Snowden is a Russian agent and lied about the NSA?

Why then has the NSA admitted so many instances of wrong doing themselves?

Is the NSA a Russian agency as well???


3 posted on 08/28/2013 9:45:32 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: Whenifhow; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

4 posted on 08/28/2013 9:46:29 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: Whenifhow

Actually, as the comment on the site said, the article sounds like it’s NSA disinformation to discredit Snowden.


5 posted on 08/28/2013 9:47:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Whenifhow

So now the Russians are the good guys and the US are the bad guys?


6 posted on 08/28/2013 9:49:06 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Whenifhow

They didn’t get much for their effort.

The Russians Are Coming - As Many Russian Spies Now In The U.S. as during the Cold War (2005)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1331878/posts


7 posted on 08/28/2013 9:50:13 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.), Army National Guard, '89-'96)
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To: Whenifhow

>>In other words, Putin lied. <<

That what Intel people do for a living. From the President on down the list. If Snowden is working for Russia then we have some folks in our offices who didn’t do a good job of vetting him.


8 posted on 08/28/2013 9:51:50 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: null and void

According to the article it seems it was a KGB classic disinfnormation operation. It may be the best spy thriller to date, and citizens are the “targets”.
The author’s name is below or comment on the web page.

The Washington Post reports that “Before American fugitive Edward Snowden arrived in Moscow in June—an arrival that Russian officials have said caught them by surprise—he spent several days living at the Russian Consulate in Hong Kong, a Moscow newspaper reported Monday.”

In other words, the Russians were in on the deception all along. It was an example of what the old Soviet KGB called “disinformation.” The Russians wanted people to believe that Snowden was a whistleblower desperately searching for a place to go.

Cliff Kincaid is the Director of the AIM Center for Investigative Journalism and can be contacted at cliff.kincaid@aim.org.


9 posted on 08/28/2013 9:51:59 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Revolting cat!
Actually, as the comment on the site said, the article sounds like it’s NSA disinformation to discredit Snowden.

I thought it was to discredit Putin as he seems to be more popular these days than Obama..especially when he is urging the US to put on the brakes regarding bombing Syria until the UN Investigators finish.

10 posted on 08/28/2013 9:52:12 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: null and void

This article is fully deserving of your Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping,


11 posted on 08/28/2013 9:52:51 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Whenifhow
The Washington Post reports that “Before American fugitive Edward Snowden arrived in Moscow in June—an arrival that Russian officials have said caught them by surprise—he spent several days living at the Russian Consulate in Hong Kong, a Moscow newspaper reported Monday.”

LOL! ""The Washington Post" - which NEVER seems to find stuff like Barry Obama making a pilgrimage to the Gay Capital of Pakistan back in the gay day...

12 posted on 08/28/2013 9:53:23 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Whenifhow

Outed ???

OMG !!!

More like co-opted.

LOL

I swear these people are farking stupid.


13 posted on 08/28/2013 9:53:29 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: null and void

It’s certainly a valid question.


14 posted on 08/28/2013 9:53:29 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Whenifhow

So why send Snowden to Venezuela? If the Russians are trumpeting this as a successful spy op, then why not hail him as a state hero and give him the perks he has “earned” rather than packing him off to Chavez’s cronies?

So far, I’m not buying this new information.


15 posted on 08/28/2013 9:54:52 PM PDT by miele man
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To: miele man; null and void

That is a very good question! Maybe he has a new “Bourne Identity” role to play ?


16 posted on 08/28/2013 9:58:05 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
Oh - did I mention that The Washington Post can EABODADIAF?
17 posted on 08/28/2013 9:59:06 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Whenifhow

Ah yes, that explains why the NSA confessed, they’re in on the deception.


18 posted on 08/28/2013 9:59:25 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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19 posted on 08/28/2013 10:01:06 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Whenifhow

I suppose this is all the “proof” Obama needs to nuke Moscow.


20 posted on 08/28/2013 10:03:11 PM PDT by teacherwoes (this tagline is being tracked by the NSA)
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To: Whenifhow
If only it were true. If it's only the dastardly Russian agent: Goldstein Snowden, that would mean that our omniscient statists really are the good guys afterall, right?...

...RIGHT???

21 posted on 08/28/2013 10:03:45 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: null and void

Mr. Potato Head.


22 posted on 08/28/2013 10:06:46 PM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: Theophilus

There are no good guys left. IMHO


23 posted on 08/28/2013 10:07:31 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
"Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism"

How are the Russians attacking Religion? By supporting the Orthodox Church? By banning public displays of homosexuality and support for homosexuality?

How are the Russians promoting terrorism? By laying waste to the Chechnyans? By refusing to get caught up in the morass that is the Middle East?

24 posted on 08/28/2013 10:08:47 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Ray76

King Carl XVI Gustaf, King of Sweden

As close as I could get to the King of Snowden


25 posted on 08/28/2013 10:09:22 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: null and void

A striking resemblance. You might say he’s a “chip” off the old block. har har har.


26 posted on 08/28/2013 10:12:22 PM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: Whenifhow
In other words, the Russians were in on the deception all along.

Really?

Seems like there are a ton of conclusions/accusations with this article and not much proof.
27 posted on 08/28/2013 10:15:21 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear; null and void

Good questions!
Think globalists - what would be gained with this?

Beck did a program where he talked about all the scandals being tied together - but it did not include the NSA because it hadn’t happened yet (May 15).
The idea is the scandals will transform free speech - political speech.

Glenn Beck Maps Out How Scandals Reveal Obama’s Goal Of ‘Fundamentally Transforming’ America -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfOKE8mbIIM


28 posted on 08/28/2013 10:18:23 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: SoConPubbie

I agree it seems to lack proof.
There are hypertext links in the article, but I couldn’t put them in the post.


29 posted on 08/28/2013 10:20:50 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

I’ll watch the video. But a quick question, does GB think the scandals were deliberately “leaked”?


30 posted on 08/28/2013 10:21:31 PM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: Ray76; null and void

I don’t have a subscription, so can only watch Beck’s videos that are available, so I don’t know what he thinks.

However, if you think about how the IRS scandal was leaked....it was completely staged. Think about the other scandals and how they came to light.

I think they are not going to stop “targeting”. Notice the term they used for the IRS scandal? They have not stopped targeting either.

So what does it mean? I don’t know exactly, but think it is something that only globalists would do and it deserves some thought.


31 posted on 08/28/2013 10:26:48 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

It means we do not have the manpower to persecute everyone, but we can intimidate everyone.


32 posted on 08/28/2013 10:29:36 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: Whenifhow

IRS does seem to be staged, not doubt about it. I’ve always thought so.

Since the F&F, AP, IRS, NSA scandals seemed to be of ever increasing “scandalousness” I’ve suspected that they were deliberate “leaks” to divert attention from Benghazi. They weren’t as blatant as the IRS announcement though, so it could be a combo of deliberate “leaks” and opportunistic exploitation.

Although listening to GB now, he’s making the case for deliberate “leaks”.


33 posted on 08/28/2013 10:35:15 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Whenifhow

This link was on another thread. It’s interesting.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/28/this-is-about-destroying-sovereignty-beck-examines-potential-syria-strike-through-the-eyes-of-a-radical-leftist/


34 posted on 08/28/2013 10:41:17 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Whenifhow
Such naiveté.

Some interesting reading about spy history, just to get a feel for how much real spying is done and at how high a level.

Don Maclean

If you follow enough links, you'll find US/UK/Russian intelligence... well... every intelligence service is intertwined with all the others in a dizzyingly interconnected world.

The world of espionage has been a forte of transnational bankers / traders for hundreds of years; they are the masters of that domain. Espionage is a key business to be in if you want to control the leaders of governments.

The leadership of the US intel has always been run by a very small group of people at the top who report to what we would think of as billionaire types / Wall Street types / etc.

They craft NIEs and "advise" the President so diplomatic, espionage and military operations can be put into action to further the ends of the true leadership.

No matter who is President, the people running our espionage operations are all selected by the "powers that be" from amongst family and only the most reliable and closest of their own associates, then provided to the President so he can "choose" them.

Obama is not running America. That really is "above his pay scale", which is undoubtedly why he said that.

Syria is the current target for "new world order" assimilation and, as usual, the American side of the financial establishment wants to put the US military machine to the task of installing a leadership of their own choosing, probably either of a US or European businessman who is one of their loyal minions.
35 posted on 08/28/2013 10:41:55 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Whenifhow

I guess they finally got the No Way Out DVD from Netflix.


36 posted on 08/28/2013 10:43:18 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Liberal Democrats = Communists. RINO Republicans = Communist Sympathizers.)
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To: Whenifhow

I agree with the comment below the article on the original site, “Any government that claims that Prism and its other metadata gathering programs are essential to ensure national security but does not insist that border security is essential to ensure national security is just plain lying to its citizens.”


37 posted on 08/28/2013 10:43:57 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
How are the Russians attacking Religion? By supporting the Orthodox Church?

The Russian government supports the Russian Orthodox Church which is run by the KGB, but Russia is very hostile to any other church, including other Orthodox churches.

How are the Russians promoting terrorism?

The Russians support many of America's terrorist enemies around the world including the Ayatollahs, Hezbollah, HAMAS, the PLO, the list goes on and on. The Tsarnaev brothers were probably Russian agents which would explain why the attacked the USA instead of attacking Russia, their supposed enemy.

38 posted on 08/28/2013 10:45:07 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: B4Ranch

To #8 re our guys didn’t do a good job of “vetting” Snowden.

Our guys have almost never done a good job of vetting Soviet spies, operatives and assets. Just look at Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White, Frank Coe, and Klaus Fuchs, among other communist moles.

Will add in Phil Agee, Hansen, the Walker Family, etc.

But then, again, nobody vetted, weren’t allowed to vet, or were ignored about the communist affiliations of Bill and Hillary Clinton, Clinton secret nominee for Secy of Education; Venceremos Brigade (i.e. Cuban DGI) operation leader Prof. Johnnetta Cole (Spelman Un, etc); Van Jones of STORM, a maoist revolutionary organization (he was picked by Valerie Jarrett, another person whose background contains some significant Communist Party USA links; Anita Dunn, the closet Maoist; one of Secy of Education Arne Duncan’s aides, a child sexual predator/NAMBLA supporter; and many more.

Congress is full of Communists, marxists and socialists, with only Sen. Bernie Sanders openly admitting that he is a “socialist”, but his DSA (Democratic Socialist of America) membership has been largely covered up until the just published book by Trevor Loudon, “The Enemies Within: Communsigts, Socialists and Progressives in the U.S. Congress”. Full of names, documents, links, photos, and the marxist histories of too many members of the House and Senate.

Older members of Congress whose red-linked backgrounds were completely covered up by the mainstream media include the present John Conyers, Sen. Alan Cranston (OWI, WW2); George McGovern (ties to Tito); Ted Kennedy (and his secret liaisons with Moscow; the 1930’s paid Soviet agent Rep. Emanuel Dickstein; Charles Porter; Hugh DeLacy, Leon Panetta’s very good friend, etc.

I suggest that you get Loudon’s new book, as well as the earlier book “Barack Obama and The Enemies Within”, 2011, which is a guide to the Obama-support networks on the far left, with names, charts, photos, documents, etc. that will blow your minds.

For information about obtaining these two books, you can buy them on Amazon.com, or thru www.PacificFreedomFoundation.org.

A few of us did exposures of the Left in our writings for Human Events Weekly (in the old days), in COMBAT, TOCSIN, The Pink Sheet on the Left/American Sentinel, the Betsy Osth newsletter, the Christian Anti-Communist Crusade newsletter, the publications of the Capital Research Center (with Matthew Vadum still doing great expose’ work on leftist organizations), the columns of WND’s Jerry Corsi, Aaron Klein, and, of course, the master of the charters and subversion webs, Glenn Beck.

But on the national writing scene, the Washington Post and New York Times (LA Times also), covered up the leftist identifications of so many communists and marxists that you could write a book just about that. You’d be surprised at how many red leftists had guest columns in these papers, esp. the NY Times and WaPo, without any true identification of who they were.

Might mention that a few WaPo female writers are/were married to veteran radical leftists including one Cambodian Holocaust denier, Bill Goodfellow.

Institute for Policy Studies writers penetration of the Wash. Post almost made them members of the staff (See S. Steven Powell’s “Covert Cadre” from 1987 as a start, and watch for a new book on IPS coming out this Fall.

Add into this the studies done by Cliff Kincaid and his groups Accuracy in Media and USAsurvival.org, Prof. Paul Kengor’s books “Dupes”, Horowitz and Collier “The Destructive Generation”, Horowitz and Poe on Soros, and the scholarly works on Soviet operations/operatives by the late Eric Breindel and Herb Romerstein, the living Harvey Khlers and John Haynes, and lastly, the masterly toms of M. Stanton Evans on Sen. Joe McCarthy (”Blacklisted by History” , (and joinly with Romerstein, “Stalin’s Secret Agents: The Subversion of Roosevelt’s Goverment” (now joined by Diane West’s book on the same subject), and you are now able to build a major library of books about communism in the US involving both foreign and domestic reds.

This is a lot of reading but I guarantee you that you will immediately see that the US Government (with the exception of the Hoover years), has done a stinking job of “vetting” reds of all kinds who have wormed their way into our government, with the Obama Administration being the worst security slacker in American history, followed by the Clinton-Gore and Carter-whoever administrations in close second.

If you wonder why we are losing our influence around the world, just look at who got appointed by Clinton/Obama from the Attorney General on down (Perez, Dunn, Panetta, Rice, Powers, Brennan, Clapper, Carol Browner/Lisa Jackson, etc).

Any real vetting of them would have kept them out of positions of influence and power (Brennan and Clapper being largely incompetent in recent years).

Now you know the rest of the story!


39 posted on 08/28/2013 10:48:13 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
How are the Russians attacking Religion? By supporting the Orthodox Church? By banning public displays of homosexuality and support for homosexuality?

How are the Russians promoting terrorism? By laying waste to the Chechnyans? By refusing to get caught up in the morass that is the Middle East?


Russia-US is like a football rivalry set up by international banking.

I'd say the Russian puppet regime politicians are more likely simply being a bit opportunistic in their regular games against their old "rival" the US.

The Russian Orthodox Church is - literally - lead by a KGB agent. Sounds like crazy conspiracy theory but not if you think of all the history of Russia year by year since 1917. Not surprising at all then.

A few top Western "capitalists" have had - for the entire 20th century - very warm relationships with Russian leadership and have been the core of it's business backbone since the "revolution" allowed them to appropriate the Romanov's foreign accounts.
40 posted on 08/28/2013 10:52:01 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: null and void

Who said he lied about the NSA?


41 posted on 08/28/2013 10:53:23 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Whenifhow
Who benefits from this assertion.....Obama looks less culpable because a nation-state has been identified as the principal offender.....not just a low-level staff member of the NSA.

Too little, too late. I don't believe a thing this government says. There are only assertions, no proof.

This fiction comes from the bowels of the obama political machine....probably axlerod.

42 posted on 08/28/2013 10:54:25 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Outstanding post! Well done!


43 posted on 08/28/2013 10:56:43 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Tsarnaev brothers were probably Russian agents which would explain why the attacked the USA instead of attacking Russia, their supposed enemy.

Ah yes, that also explains why the Russians specifically warned us about them repeatedly.

44 posted on 08/28/2013 11:04:59 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Interestingly enough, no one seems to be saying that...


45 posted on 08/28/2013 11:07:44 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
WaPo has been a new world order / CIA paper since the 1930's.

Eugene Meyer

Katharine Graham

Lord Lothian

Ben Bradlee

Bradlee 2nd wife Toni Pinchot
46 posted on 08/28/2013 11:21:27 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: null and void
Allegedly.

Who made this allegation? Nobody knows. They chose to remain anonymous.

The FBI said they were asked for information about Tamerlane Tsarnaev in 2011 by a foreign government, but when the FBI asked for more information about him, they did not receive it.

Why not?

Tsarnaev traveled to Russia in 2012. If the Russia knew he was an extremist, why did they allow him to travel to and from Russia?

47 posted on 08/28/2013 11:30:55 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: null and void
Some liberals are waking up. Progressive analyst Spandan Chakrabarti writes, “Curious choice, don’t you think, for the paragon of government transparency to show up and seek help from one of the most secretive, pro-spying, anti-free speech and anti-free press governments on earth?

He's describing the US. Of course, after Nork, Chicom and a bunch of Mozlem countries. But at this point, Russia has much more freedom of speech and press than the US.

48 posted on 08/28/2013 11:55:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I read that Russia offered the info to the US and the FBI didn’t care or respond or something similar.


49 posted on 08/28/2013 11:56:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Revolting cat!

exactly.


50 posted on 08/29/2013 12:05:28 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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