Posted on 09/06/2013 8:23:58 AM PDT by quimby
Congressional aides in both parties tell me that the chances of President Obama winning House approval for military action in Syria are so bad they actually doubt the House would ultimately vote on it if failure seemed certain.
Two new whip counts of House members by ABC News and the liberal Firedoglake web site show a majority of House members firmly or leaning against intervention. The Washington Posts more conservative count stands at 204 no votes, only 13 short of the majority needed to kill the presidents request.
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Tell Bonehead to bring it to a vote or he is out as Speaker.
The American people want a vote.
What am I missing?
Members of the House who plan to vote on Obama’s Syria Resoltion do not want to be identified - elections are coming in 2014.
Boehner has to be compromised in some way. No other Republican Speaker would be this weak.
The same mentally ill thought processes of Obozo Liar, McAinal, Kerry the Faux hero, and congressional rats wanting to bomb Syria could apply to 9/11!
Considering the administration’s bullheaded determination to go ahead with a (by now) meaningless strike, and the establishment’s backing of the same,
maybe there is more to it than just firing a few missiles?
The State Dept. has always wanted to “settle” the Israeli-Arab dispute by putting US troops on the ground as “peacekeepers”.
Back in the mid-1990s, this idea was publicly floated (can’t post the URL) :
“That’s were U.S. troops come in. Hoping to make the deal more acceptable to the Israeli electorate, Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin has raised the notion of placing an American force on the Golan Heights to monitor the agreement with Syria. The Asad regime likes this idea as well and the Clinton Administration has indicated it is ready to do its part.”
US troops in the Golan would effectively prevent any Israeli
response to attacks; it would probably mean the “resettlement” of Israelis living there (ethnic cleansing);
and, with the UN then issuing more resolutions, and calling up member states (including the USA) to act, the US would then have cover to do more by way of forcing Israel back to the 1967 borders; and preventing any kind of Israeli response to attacks.
Is that kind of set-up being considered? Is all this just a way to get US troops inserted into the conflict? Is it all really about getting boots on the ground (and then squeezing Israel)?
Just speculation.
“but simply because the weakness it would demonstrate wouldnt be good for the country,”
Weakness isn’t good, which is why we need to show the world we are more than bambam.
Well the British Parliament didnt seem to be too worried about how it would look.
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They did their job rather than run for political cover. They were mature about a serious matter. They were decisive.
Congrats to the Brits for showing us how its is done.
The Congressional Democraps all want to vote present and force another divisive issue on the GOP. So we are getting a lot of theater here about vote counts, no vote, etc. Who knows what the real situation is.
You could pull a muscle in your brain if you try too hard to map it onto any known logic system.
LOL
Have we entered the Twilight Zone? How could ANYONE support this?
We must kill people in Syria and start WWIII because our president said something stupid and we cant make him look bad?
Everyone needs to call at least one rep today. More if you can find the time. We need to stay on the offensive.
They need to vote, vote no, and do it before the Preezy’s planned whine-fest on Tuesday night.
vote the will of the people - vote it down.
1) Risking an armed conflict with Russia is WAY too high of a price to pay for saving Obama from his own stupidity.
2) Boehner has already declared this a “conscience vote”. To pull a stunt like this and deny that vote as a political move would undermine whatever credibility he has left, if any.
Kosovo redux.
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Similar in some respects, yes. But this is a far different ball of wax in terms of potential consequences. This could get really ugly for us. We are opening up a 55 gallon drum full of worms.
Bonehead must go. Cantor must go. McCarthy must go. McConnell must go.
"I just dont believe that if defeat is certain, the House leadership will want to see a president utterly humiliated on the House floor in a public vote.More assinine thinking courtesy of the RINO leadership.
"An attempt would be made to let the whole thing go away. I dont think it would be done to give the GOP any extra leverage in debt-ceiling or budget negotiations Obama isnt the grateful type but simply because the weakness it would demonstrate wouldnt be good for the country." - GOP Leadership aide
As if the whole world will not know what it means and convey the same message anyway. Most of our allies would be heartened by the GOP Huuse standing up to this nonsense from Obama and his lackeys, and our enemies would also take note, realizing that there is still some spine left in the US political system.
But not the RINOs in leadership.
They need to go...long since.
Good post. Absolutely true.
So now our burning up the phone lines creates the opposite effect that we wanted? They just decide not to vote on it so they won’t be going against the country and can save their sorry asses?
The boy king would be denied by members of his own government. And in a manner that he couldn’t circumvent with executive fiat.
“It makes America look weak”.
Not really.
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