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Did you win $100?
Townhall.com ^ | September 7, 2013 | Steve Deace

Posted on 09/07/2013 9:00:53 AM PDT by Kaslin

Last week I invited every Townhall reader to try and be the first to win $100 out of my own pocket, by giving me one legitimate reason why requiring folks to show a valid photo I.D. before voting was “unfair.”

However, most of the many emails I received in response were similar to the following snarky examples:

I have an answer for why requiring ID for voting is unfair. It is because it makes it harder for Progressives to win elections and wield control. And to Progressives, that is obviously unfair.

You will never get a logical answer because Progressive Political Correctness is Reality Challenged. It is a fake world that cannot survive facts and reason. That is why they have to shut up or shout -down their opponents, usually in the vilest of ways. It is easy to see when one learns to read Progressive and understand that their words mean something else in their fake world.

So as long as you don't accept their warped worldview your $100 is pretty safe.

Mark Gray

It gives M$M (mainstream media) an amount of fabricated news coverage on Election Day to sell their phony stories.,/p>

Gene

The question is, "why it is "unfair" for a person to be required to show a photo ID to vote?" I will answer not as the ultra-right wing conservative that I am, I will instead use a liberal thought process and answer.

It is "unfair" to require a voter to show a valid photo ID in order to vote Because...It is not fair!

Steve, I had to dig deep into my liberal, emotional thought process and finally came up with the answer that wins. Since they only deal in emotions and you did not require any "truth" or "facts" that should do it.

Ron Goss

When I was in high school (a half century and more back) there were inevitably squeals of “that's not fair" whenever a test was announced or homework was assigned. An English teacher gave the best definition I have ever heard of the phrase: it means "I don't like that" and nothing more.

Why is asking for a photo ID to vote "unfair?” It prevents illegal voting and election stealing. In what ways is that not "fair?” The speaker doesn't like it.

Give the $100 to the Salvation Army in my name.

Bob Clemons

There were a few people that attempted to rationally justify the notion that showing the same documentation to vote that is required to do almost everything else in our society was “unfair.” They all used the same argument as the following email:

Requiring photo IDs for voting constitutes a poll tax, which historically has been used to disenfranchise the poor, specifically poor minorities. Even in the few states where you can apply for, and be granted, a free photo ID still comes at some cost in terms of travel/lost wages/acquisition of other forms of identity needed to get a photo ID.

Poll taxes have been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court for violating the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.

I find it hard to believe that something this basic has never occurred to you/has not been pointed out by someone in your audience, especially given that it's been a common, and valid, reason why people oppose such laws. So you're probably aware of it, and simply too intellectually dishonest to concede that poll taxes are not only unconstitutional, but inherently unfair.

I doubt I'll be getting a check any time soon, though I'll be interested in seeing what mental gymnastics you employ to argue that requiring people to pay (in any way) as a prerequisite for voting is not 'unfair' in whatever reply you may send.

Ryan Hartmann

Before I begin my response to Ryan’s argument, is it just me or is it relatively impossible for Leftists to make an argument for their cause without sounding condescending, smarmy, or rude? Shouldn’t being “open-minded” and “tolerant” make one polite, courteous, and syrupy sweet?

But I digress.

As to Ryan’s point, in his argument he says the following: “Even in the few states where you can apply for, and be granted, a free photo ID still comes at some cost in terms of travel/lost wages/acquisition of other forms of identity needed to get a photo ID.”

One of those travel costs Ryan cited would be gas.

According to the 2013 Energy Almanac, the national average price for a gallon of gas was $3.83 as of August 19th. The 2013 Energy Almanac says 70 cents of that price is various state and federal sales/excise taxes—which is roughly a 20% tax rate.

So according to Ryan’, um, logic…the guvment is already imposing a 20% poll tax on anyone who drives to vote. If someone goes to drive to vote in New York City they may face an additional 18% tax/surtax on parking or garaging their motor vehicle. So that’s another potential poll tax according to Ryan’s, um, logic. Even if someone walks they’re facing a poll tax according to Ryan’s, um, logic. According to this white paper by the Democrat (Party) Leadership Conference, shoe tariffs are among “America’s worst tax.”

Thus, if Ryan is consistent in his, um, logic that all of these various levies on methods of transportation to take advantage of your right to vote should be eliminated as to avoid what amounts to a “poll tax,” I’m happy to send him $100.

Thanks for playing.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bet; liberalagenda; voteridentification; voteridlaws

1 posted on 09/07/2013 9:00:53 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I’m so sick of this Voter ID BS

Do you need cash to buy food? - Get Some.

Do you need water to take a shower? - Get Some.

Do you need a Drivers License to drive a car? - Get One.

Do you need a picture ID to vote? - effing Get one...

/Rant Off


2 posted on 09/07/2013 9:09:20 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: Kaslin

Heh, heh, heh! Especially the last!

Would they be happy if there was a “voting rebate”? Thereby officially defraying the “cost of coming to vote”? What’s more then since everyone voting gets the rebate, finding duplicates and cracking down on the associated frauds should be stunningly easy!

You get to cast a secret vote. You do not get to hide the fact that you voted.


3 posted on 09/07/2013 9:11:16 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin

“Even in the few states where you can apply for, and be granted, a free photo ID still comes at some cost in terms of travel/lost wages/acquisition of other forms of identity needed to get a photo ID.”

Silly libs. By that logic, registering to vote is a “poll tax” as well. Or having to “travel” to the polling place in order to vote... another “poll tax”. You’ve got mail-in ballots you say? Well, that stamp I have to put on the envelope... “poll tax”! Having to “travel” to the mailbox or post office to mail it? “Poll tax”!


4 posted on 09/07/2013 9:15:05 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Dems have paid people to vote in the past. It’s euphemistically called getting out the vote.


5 posted on 09/07/2013 9:16:18 AM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Henry Hnyellar
Dems have paid people to vote in the past.

If they were really honest, they'd have to claim that as a poll tax as well. Why should it cost them to get more votes?

6 posted on 09/07/2013 9:20:26 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Boogieman

Nothing but typical liberal lame excuses


7 posted on 09/07/2013 9:22:56 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Henry Hnyellar

True enough. How about extending the favor to Republicans? Only fair....


8 posted on 09/07/2013 9:24:35 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin

Yup... because the conservative tends to believe in a providence which does reward effort expended towards same providence. (Conservatives are much bigger charity givers than liberals, in a shocking expose’.)


9 posted on 09/07/2013 9:26:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin
The REAL question.. "IS............

How long has multiple voting been going on in NON I.D. States?..
And in certain precincts of I.D. States..
I'd be surprised to learn it HASN'T been going on for decades..

You know multiple votes and voting by dogs, cats, guinea pigs, cartoon characters, the dead.. fictional people.. peoples minor kids.. the insane.. prisoners.. whole neighborhoods multiple times.. AND thats not including stuffing the ballot boxes..

Voting DIED on Nov. 6th 2012.. because somebody let this get out of control...
It's impossible to get 100% of the vote anywhere at any time..

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*WARNING*- this mistake has been noted and the corrupt voting hierarchy WILL NOT let it happen again.. much to the relief of the republicans who could mostly care less anyway...

What it takes to piss off a republican seems to be limitless..

10 posted on 09/07/2013 10:12:47 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Kaslin

The real reason is that the Dems did not carry one single state which required a picture identification card to vote.


11 posted on 09/07/2013 10:17:52 AM PDT by GeorgeTex (Obama-Four M President (Mendacious Manchurian Muslim Marxist))
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To: Kaslin

Your $100.00 will be worth a Dime Before Anyone comes CLOSE to Winnig It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 09/07/2013 10:50:14 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: Kaslin

Want to see the Statue of Liberty?

Gov Issued ID required.

Make it as easy to vote as it is to buy a gun.


13 posted on 09/07/2013 11:39:11 AM PDT by NoLibZone (The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.)
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