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Niagara Ceramics closing, ending 110 jobs (Unfair competition from China?)
The Buffalo News ^ | September 9, 2013 | David Robinson

Posted on 09/09/2013 7:09:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Vermont Lt

We are in a trade war, we need to fight.


21 posted on 09/10/2013 5:15:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The company failed because it was old and worn out and unable to compete in the world market. The company had the misfortune to be located in New York.


22 posted on 09/10/2013 5:19:10 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: central_va

Sure, lets increase the tariffs on imports. How do you think China is going to react to that. Or OPEC.

You are going to throw Japan under the bus, and all China needs to do is dump a small percentage of their Treasury bills.

All of the conservatives in the 90’s thought all of the free trade was great.

Those chickens are coming home to roost.

Libertarians like Paul and Perot tried to warn us.


23 posted on 09/10/2013 5:21:06 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: 1010RD
What is your suggested schedule of tariffs?

Start at 5% then escalate 1% per year until 10%, then either stop escalating or reduce as industry returns(or not).

What will you do to compensate consumers hurt by the tariff?

Wrong question but I will answer: Reduce the personal income tax to reflect revenue gains thru tariffs. Ultimately, eliminate the income tax (pre-1913 situation). Install a NSRT of 6% AFTER income tax is eliminated completely.

Do you think the sugar tariff has been good for America?

Looking around maybe a ban on sugar

24 posted on 09/10/2013 5:21:48 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Progressives like you love income taxes and hate tariffs. Screw that.


25 posted on 09/10/2013 5:23:12 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nathanbedford
That's a nice summary.

As far as the consumer saving through imports, I'd question that. For quality merchandise the consumer doesn't save when it's not made in the USA. The corporations, spokesmen, those transporting the goods do very well. Does anyone seriously think Nike wouldn't make a profit if their $200 sneakers were made in the USA? On the other end, a lot of the cheap merchandise needs replacement more often.

It's certainly not helping the US to have all wealth sucked upward. What's the answer? The cynic in me suspects there isn't one until the global economy collapses.

26 posted on 09/10/2013 5:34:01 AM PDT by grania
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To: DH
The questions you ask clearly show that you have no experience in running a business; especially a manufacturing business.

That's true. So how about enlightening me and answering the questions?

27 posted on 09/10/2013 5:34:44 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Hey, we stole the making of China from China, now they are getting it back again.


28 posted on 09/10/2013 5:36:40 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: central_va

What the hell are you talking about?

You blather on like someone in 1931.

The world economy is not a black and white issue.

Your proposals would result in a world war, at best.


29 posted on 09/10/2013 5:37:47 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: central_va

Oh...then I saw whom I was answering. You would prefer to have slaves, so we could make iPhones here.


30 posted on 09/10/2013 5:38:56 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: central_va

What are you going to do when the Russians and Europeans slap a larger tarrif on our wheat?


31 posted on 09/10/2013 5:40:52 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: Vermont Lt

We just might.

Right now, we are losing big-time.

Fighting a tradewar, might be the only way we can side with our own people.

BUY AMERICAN.


32 posted on 09/10/2013 5:50:53 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: DoodleDawg

Why waste my time writing a book to try to TEACH you about Real-World business. Not the kind taught by professors who have no experience in the real world of business.

To answer your questions it would take many hours of writing a small book to do so. Since I am a businessman, I will do so if you pay me for my time to do so. Otherwise, buzz off.


33 posted on 09/10/2013 6:11:53 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I am sitting here thinking of the most recent purchases I’ve made of any consequence:

Expensive, professional DSLR camera—none made in the US
Flat Screen TV—none made in the US
Pick Up Truck (Silverado)—assembled in Mexico from foreign made parts.
New Balance Sneakers—Made in USA
Food—Produce from South America (not in season yet)
Silver and Gold Coins—Made in the US

There are not a lot of products to buy from the US. We have essentially become a colony—we export a lot of raw materials—so buying USA is tough.


34 posted on 09/10/2013 6:38:41 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: DH

Don’t bother with the book. I’ll find someone who knows what they’re talking about and ask them instead.


35 posted on 09/10/2013 6:57:02 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Vermont Lt

Dude, we are tariffed to death now. They tariff our products now. We are the stupid ones.


36 posted on 09/10/2013 7:02:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Oh...then I saw whom I was answering. You would prefer to have slaves, so we could make iPhones here.

You prefer Chinese slaves....

37 posted on 09/10/2013 7:04:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Your proposals would result in a world war, at best.

You sit to pee, admit it.

38 posted on 09/10/2013 7:05:11 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Do you have a working plan for implementation or is it by imperial fiat?

Do you know of a country presently using tariffs to eliminate taxes on individuals or corporations? If yes, what is their tariff schedule and how do they offset the harm tariffs do to consumers and entrepreneurs?

Regarding the ‘ban on sugar’, do you support NY Mayor Bloomberg’s efforts to control human behavior via civil/secular law?

Is the hyperprofit experienced by the Sugar Cabal an intentional or accidental effect of the sugar tariff? Do you oppose this kind of crony capitalism and the windfall profits it generates for political entrepreneurs?


39 posted on 09/10/2013 7:18:29 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: central_va

You are an idiot. But we already knew that. I guess we are making progress. Your mindset has moved from defending one failed economy in the condeferacy to another: early 1930’s America.

We need to unshackle our businesses so they can compete. But that would mean wholesale revolution in the US. You won’t get anyone in the US to work for the necessary wage in order to compete.

Allow companies to bring overseas profit home. That would help too.


40 posted on 09/10/2013 8:21:57 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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