Posted on 09/13/2013 5:11:48 PM PDT by marktwain
Earlier this week, a video was posted on YouTube which demonstrated how Appleton, Wisconsin, police violated the rights of two men who were openly carrying AR-15s, which is legal in the state of Wisconsin.
The two men were first held at gunpoint, then handcuffed and placed in the back of a squad car while the officers “investigated” the incident, only to find that the men had not broken any laws and there was no clear evidence to charge them with any crime.
Apparently, the police department had received three separate calls because the men were carrying “assault rifles” across their backs as they walked down the street.
The officer that made first initial contact asked the men what they’re carrying. When one of the men replied with the obvious, “guns,” the officer then asked what kind of guns. The man tells the officer that they are carrying ARs as well as concealed pistols. “Real AR’s? the officer asked, failing to explain what he considers a “real” AR. Nonetheless the officer seemed a little more than irritated that the men chose to exercise their Second Amendment rights in such a manner.
The officer can be heard telling the other officers that he will “cover them” while the investigation continues. The officer then told the men, “I don’t understand what’s going on, but you’re both going back to the precinct.”
The men’s firearms were taken and the men were eventually put into handcuffs and placed in the back of the police car. At that point, an officer realized that one of the men had a video camera around his neck. The officer takes the video camera and attempts to turn it off.
Only what the officer didn’t realize is that only the video was shut off while the audio continued to record as the officers searched through the men’s belongings and scrambled to find a crime to charge them with.
The officer initially told the men that they were being investigated for a possible disorderly conduct, explaining that there is a “fine line” in which one can exercise their right to open carry.
However, the men were not acting in an alarming or threatening manner. They were simply walking down the street with AR-15s slung across their backs. And, in fact, the Appleton Police Department’s own website explains that simply openly carrying a firearm is not grounds to be charged with disorderly conduct.
According to the department’s website, “Unless the facts and circumstances indicate a malicious or criminal intent, a person may not be charged with an ordinance or criminal offense of disorderly conduct for going armed with a concealed or openly carried firearm.”
The officers then ran the men’s IDs, concealed carry permits and even the serial numbers on their guns, which one admitted were “good firearms.” But the officers didn’t come up with a single citation that they could issue.
About halfway through the video, unbeknown to the officers that the audio was still recording, one of the officers stated, “Oh, this is going to be a lawsuit.”
At one point, an officer even referred to a similar incident from 2011 in which five men were illegally detained after openly carrying firearms in a Madison restaurant. The men filed a federal lawsuit against the city as well as the officers involved and won, leaving the city to pay the men $10,000.
There have been no reports on whether or not a suit will be filed against the officers in Appleton who detained the men for about 40 minutes before apologizing and sending them on their way.
By the way, I just had a cop in my hometown who refused to investigate his neighbor for child abuse and he is currently under investigation. His fellow officers watch every move I make but I DON’T CARE. Can you, the witness, say the same thing? If you supposedly heard a cop say these things, don’t you have the balls to bring it to someone in charge? Unbelievable.
What are you doing? Beyond your pretending to be tough on the internet?
So what are you doing mr hotshot?
right, thats why we have so many corrupt politicians and cops.
you’ll get right on it as soon as you get permission to leave your Moms basement.
My Mom died back in 1973 while I was a cop and turning in people who said they wanted to shoot people. How many thug cops you reported on, Nancy?
Awwww did you dog die too?
How would insulting you help the cause of protecting our rights?
A little this. A little that. You know, nothing you’d approve of.
If I have to hand you a playbook you don’t belong in the game.
Sure lurker, but the “play books” you use are called comic books by everyone else.
If you have to resort to insults everytime then you don’t have an argument.
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