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ObamaCare: Should You Pay the Premium or the Tax?
Townhall.com ^ | September 22, 2013 | Political Calculations

Posted on 09/22/2013 5:44:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: t1b8zs
Being penalized by the government for not buying some thing!

Something is terribly wrong here and America needs to wake up.This shouldn’t even be talked about!

It's been wrong since the New Deal, when the USSC ruled that Roscoe Filburn could be penalized for growing his own wheat instead of buying it from someone else.

21 posted on 09/22/2013 6:29:51 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Kaslin

I prefer the third option...defund and repeal. Vote out ALL ObamaCare supporters on BOTH sides of the aisle.


22 posted on 09/22/2013 6:32:25 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: grania

That is with no prescription coverage. Also, I have to buy a supplement which is $40 a month. I spend more on this “insurance” than I do on food. Insane...


23 posted on 09/22/2013 6:34:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin
ObamaCare actually mandates that [currently uninsured] Americans either . . . buy costly policies on their state's newly established health insurance exchanges . . . or choose to "self-insure" and pay a potentially much less costly tax instead.

In Muslim countries, this tax is called jizya.

24 posted on 09/22/2013 6:36:22 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Kaslin

Pay whichever is cheaper. No matter what you do, when Obama’s death panel decides you are no longer of use to the regime, you ain’t gettin’ treatment anyway!


25 posted on 09/22/2013 6:44:45 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: little jeremiah
They can’t put tens of millions of people in jail.

How many "spaces" are available in those neat little FEMA camps?

26 posted on 09/22/2013 6:47:36 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Sacajaweau
I pay more on this "insurance" than I do on food. Insane

That's basically the choice I had to make. I've had good results following a "pure foods" diet. It's about eating less, but very high quality foods. If I got the insurance, I couldn't afford the diet, and I'd need medications and therapies and all kinds of stuff to stay healthy.

27 posted on 09/22/2013 6:48:50 AM PDT by grania
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To: Kaslin

A few million people just refusing to comply should end this altogether at least that is the argument applied to illegal immigration. You can’t possibly prosecute millions of Americans for non healthcare law compliance no more than you can possibly deport millions of illegal aliens. :-)


28 posted on 09/22/2013 6:50:45 AM PDT by Maelstorm (If all are treated as suspects it will not be long before we all are treated as prisoners.)
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To: yobid

There is no penalty in the law other than the fax. The IRS can confiscate your refund. Don’t have a refund, no confiscation. There aren’t enough jail cells to hold everyone. The judicial system would crash under the strain. Single payer is the goal. The crooks in DC could care less if this works.


29 posted on 09/22/2013 7:11:01 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Sacajaweau

Where on earth do you get a Medicare supplemental policy for $40 a month? I have a plan F, which covers all my deductibles plus whatever Medicare doesn’t pay and it is $230 a month (United Healthcare). My Part D is $15 a month thru UH as well. In total I pay $350 a month for insurance. I’d like to get something cheaper but since I have a chronic auto-immune disease and have had frequent hospitalizations, I’m afraid to change my coverage.


30 posted on 09/22/2013 8:02:40 AM PDT by wayoverthehill
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To: Kaslin

Ping for later.


31 posted on 09/22/2013 8:13:26 AM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: Kaslin
I can't wait to see my low income and BO voting, tenants reaction when in anticipation of their one big, big pay day their income tax refund roughly 500% more than they paid in through the EITC, is non existent or greatly reduced as the gov will take out the "tax" for no health insurance and back payment's for their college scholarships they all got in the last few years.

One other thing how is the IRS going to penalize non insurance holding citizens when they have no bank account? Most of my low income tenants have no bank account, so how does the IRS get their health insurance "tax"?

32 posted on 09/22/2013 8:14:24 AM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: wayoverthehill

Wifey and I have a Blue Shield Plan F.....$287 monthly for the two of us. It’s the only way to fly; in the 18 months of being on Medicare with that supplemental, we’ve had a combined four cataract surgeries, one gallbladder, two angioplasties, two colonoscopies -— and not one additional cent copay to anybody or any place.


33 posted on 09/22/2013 8:18:59 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: Kaslin

Ping for later.


34 posted on 09/22/2013 8:46:56 AM PDT by super7man
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To: Kaslin

the roberts decision gave us the answer...

pay the tax, and then sue the feds...

the tax is inequitable under the constitution (too many exemptions for it to be equitable)...

the libs and the unions (who got their exemptions) know this..

why do you think implementation is being delayed???

(hint, the pubs know this too, why do you think THEY are trying to delay implementation???)

if it goes before the supreme court, fubocare is DOA in regards to funding...


35 posted on 09/22/2013 9:41:51 AM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: JimRed

I don’t know about FEMA camps. I’ve seen many references and lists over the years, and IIRC they all come from one source; people on FR and elsewhere have gone to many of the locations and they are not camps. Some could be, some are old airports, yards with stored school buses, etc etc.

Regarding the gov’s nefarious intentions, in order for their plans to work, we have to be disarmed first.

Hasn’t worked and it won’t.


36 posted on 09/22/2013 10:56:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kaslin
NEITHER!!!
37 posted on 09/23/2013 3:31:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JimRed
They can’t put tens of millions of people in jail.

No need to. Just enough to get the, ahem, attention of the rest of them.

38 posted on 09/23/2013 3:39:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: VRWC For Truth
There aren’t enough jail cells to hold everyone.

They could shut down your internet access.

How'd ya like THAT!!??

39 posted on 09/23/2013 3:41:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ErnBatavia

I’ve been on Medicare for almost 8 years and the only things I have had to pay out of pocket is for the glaucoma test you get during an eye exam. Everything else has been covered by Medicare and the supplemental ins. I have no complaints about Medicare. I have also had 3 hospitalizations plus umpteen tests and sonograms and ultrasounds.


40 posted on 09/24/2013 10:02:55 AM PDT by wayoverthehill
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