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Wood Stove Ban Made Universal
http://freepatriot.org ^ | September 30, 2013

Posted on 10/02/2013 2:10:04 AM PDT by lowbridge

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To: knarf

I second your solution.


181 posted on 10/02/2013 11:49:26 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: knarf

I second your solution.


182 posted on 10/02/2013 11:50:05 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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And I did not mean to say it twice.


183 posted on 10/02/2013 11:50:35 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: stevie_d_64

New stoves must comply with emission standards. All commercial outfits selling stoves must sell one of the 600 or so “approved” types. That’s the enforcement.

When an old stove needs replacement that person will need to get an “approved” stove, which from what I have read in other posts, is a better stove in the long run cause it’s more efficient.

This is just like what they did to toilets- SWAT teams did not plow into homes and remove the old, noncompliant toilets, but if you bought a new one from the home improvement store, it would be one of teh low-flush ones.

I think, from looking at what EPA has written, there is nothing preventing a private individual from selling his stove to another citizen, and you can still build your own, you just can’t be in the business of selling them commercially.


184 posted on 10/02/2013 11:50:58 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Beagle8U
“They aren’t outlawed and you can still buy them.”

If you go where you can read customer comments about those “green” strike anywhere matches, the chemical part on the end has been lessened so much, the match will hardly strike and then burn out very, very, quickly if it does light, so these matches are not regular strike anywhere matches we used to have. So, when they made them strike anywhere, they cut the burning part so much it won't stay lit enough to even catch the material above the fire part on fire.

185 posted on 10/02/2013 12:06:28 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Kartographer

Bet the EPA would go crazy if they saw us burning wood for our BBQ pit.


186 posted on 10/02/2013 12:06:41 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: lowbridge

I’ll be burning some nice pinon oak this winter on the cold days. Warms up the house real good.


187 posted on 10/02/2013 12:10:45 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: dangerdoc
They work fine, I have two of them, actually much better that the the less efficient stoves they replaced. More heat per cord of wood and they burn more cleanly, less creosote in the chimney which decreases the risk of burning down the house.

That is what I have found. In 1998 I installed a Dutchwest medium with a catalytic converter and a Regency insert. In 2002 I installed an additional two Aspens. Your experience seems to be the take of this gentlemen at Sweeps's Library - EPA woodstove regulations. He has a different take on the EPA stove issue.

I was surprised that my non-pellet Regency insert was not on the "approved" EPA list. It met the Phase II emissions regulations. I'll have to take a closer look.
188 posted on 10/02/2013 12:11:21 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. No Blood For Ego!)
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To: DBrow

“They are not coming to take any stoves. They are not banning wood stoves. No stove will be confiscated.”

You seem to trust the government, believe what they say. Bad mistake on your part.


189 posted on 10/02/2013 12:11:26 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

That is why you dip them in melted paraffin wax.

The wax will make them waterproof AND make them burn for a long time.


190 posted on 10/02/2013 12:15:33 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I have an outdoor fireplace and it burns ——WOOD.


191 posted on 10/02/2013 12:16:12 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Beagle8U

“That is why you dip them in melted paraffin wax.
The wax will make them waterproof AND make them burn for a long time.”

And, that is why they are not like our old time regular strike anywhere matches - and I have a big metal can of the regular ones I got before they were taken off the market. With the “approved” matches, you have to alter them to make them somewhat like the old ones.


192 posted on 10/02/2013 12:19:01 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Biggirl
EVERYONE: Ignore, obstruct, delay, dismantle the socialist government and the traitor who is “pResident” in the White Hut. Be the Freedom Fighters for our time...look up the term and read how Freedom Fighters fought for freedom and liberty from their Nazi captors, from their Japanese guards in prison camps during World War II. Read, learn and apply. Join forces with like minded people who love this country and will fight for the Constitution, our Liberty and Freedom.
193 posted on 10/02/2013 12:41:00 PM PDT by itssme
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed.


194 posted on 10/02/2013 12:51:32 PM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Marcella

“You seem to trust the government, believe what they say. Bad mistake on your part.”

I guess. But if they were really coming with a SWAT team to take your stove, I doubt they’d signal their intent. This is just like the regulations on new toilets.

Did you read any of the regulations on woodstoves?


195 posted on 10/02/2013 12:52:02 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: central_va; donmeaker
Bozo, I am taking about trade with foreign nations. Nobody here is against free trade between the 50 US states.

Except the USDA, FDA, DEA -- any agency involved with the War on Drugs -- the EPA, the DOT, and so forth.
It gets even more interesting when you look at the 'mechanism' they use: the commerce clause.

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
Notice that the clause is a list, one which contains foreign-countries, Indian-tribes [which we could term domestic-nations], and the States. This means that the same power that applies to regulating the States is the same power that applies to countries; moreover, the clause is used to justify federal regulations within the States [that is intrastate commerse] by claiming it is impactful of interstate commerce.

If the federal government tried to declare the regulatory power within other countries as it does within the States, that country would rightly regard it as an act of war. If the FedGov were to try enforcing those regulations, that would be the waging of that war… therefore enforcing intrastate regulations is the waging of war upon the several States: Treason.

196 posted on 10/02/2013 1:55:19 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: lowbridge
The EPA’s new environmental regulations reduce the amount of airborne fine-particle matter from 15 micrograms to 12 micrograms per cubic meter of air.

How does the EPA inform naturally occurring fires of this new regulation and it's bound to present real ball-buster of a problem for the volcanoes.

I guess EPA will provide exemptions just as Obamacare provides waivers from its onerous provisions.

However, it flies in the face of the 14th Amendment’s promise of equal protection of the laws. How is there equal protection of the laws when Obama points to A, B, and C and demands they follow the law and then Obama turns to X, Y, and Z and tell them they don't need to follow the law.

197 posted on 10/02/2013 2:03:37 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: Pajamajan

When I asked for the health care bill Washington kept sending me copies of some Muslims birth certificate to burn. I am not sure but I think it was from Kenya.


198 posted on 10/02/2013 2:10:09 PM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; AlexW
”I am an American that loves his country”

If you love it so much how come you aren’t here fighting to keep it like the rest of us? The only thing that is absurd is a person living in another country on FR. What goes on in the States no longer affects you as you so love to tell us all.

If I may: I have a brother who was incredibly defiant of authority, I saw that this would land him in trouble if he continued that path. When he turned 17 [or was it 18] I took him to the Marine recruiter (for his birthday, no less) and let the recruiter give his pitch: I figured that the Marines would either solve his authority-problem or galvanize it… as it turns out it solved it [for the most part] and now that he's out he's pursuing [probably] a paramedic job.

My point is that sometimes it takes something thoroughly unpleasant to get through to [some] people... and sometimes it becomes clear that you-yourself cannot help them because they refuse to be helped. I think that's, overall, the position America finds itself in. (We've been warned about our finances since Clinton, at least... and what have we done?)

199 posted on 10/02/2013 2:15:41 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: AlexW
Why else do you think I have been on FR for the last 15 years?

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Is that a rhetorical question?

200 posted on 10/02/2013 2:18:50 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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