Posted on 10/03/2013 11:51:06 AM PDT by noprogs
Do you know how to spell frustration with three letters? It's done G-O-P.
It's peanut harvest time now in South Georgia, and due to equipment failure today I'm not on the tractor, so I'm outstanding in my field. Beck was on the radio today with his "defund the GOP" campaign going full blast and I guess he will stay on that position until he sells all the tee shirts he has printed. Tried to call all morning with a better strategy whenever I didn't have a wrench in my hand, but like the GOP establishment,they have no time to listen since they have a show to put on. Same results with Wilkow. So here I am, and decided to try it this way after answering a post on a parallel subject.
The problem with the GOP are the Reagan Democrats, aka neocons, who have risen to power and are now the establishment. HALF OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE GOP IS IT IS CONTROLLED BY DEMOCRATS! They changed their label, but did not change the contents of the package. This is why the GOP continues to drift left in search of the elusive moderate, the evasive middle. This is why Pat Buchannan in ridiculed hardest by his own party, why Ted Cruz is such an anomaly, and why when I talk to a non voter they tell me "Why bother voting? There isn't a dime's worth of difference between the parties.". You and I may know better, but looking at the steady growth of government in size, expense, intrusiveness and inanity regardless of which party is in charge, I can see their point.
The answer is not a third party, regardless of the figurehead, name or ideals. The deck is too stacked at the level where elections are controlled, which is the States. Furthermore, look at the mess in the Virginia gubernatorial race. Now I regularly read my Rothbard, but the Libertarian Party of Virginia has been duped into nominating Sarvis who is proposing a carbon credit program for the state. No true Libertarian is going to propose a new government program! Virginia Libertarians, everyone who shares your bong is NOT your friend and you have been rendered a worse joke by enviro whacko socialist infiltrators. While Cuccinelli is no small government champion, get used to saying "Governor McCauliff". Gee....thanks!
Then we have the folk, many on Free Republic who say "So and so did this. I'm done with the GOP.", or "Rove said or did that! I'm leaving the GOP.". You are a bunch of chicken (manure), whiney assed, quitter babies. I'm glad your sissy selves were not at the Battle of Kings Mountain! You have let a bunch of Michael Medved Democrats run you out of the GOP. YOU ARE THE OTHER HALF OF THE PROBLEM IN THE GOP! Gee.....thank you too!
Here is the solution. Be warned, it will require people with thick skin, a modicum of diplomacy, work and patience. People who choose to join this effort can expect ridicule, embarrassment, rejection and failure, but must be willing to persevere. THE GOP IS A GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION. That is the key. Join your county or city party NOW. Attend all the meetings. Make new friends and repair old wounds. Volunteer for work. Practice your Dale Carnegie. Be sure to attend your mass meetings where the delegates to the district and state conventions are elected, and work to elect delegates who believe in small government. Be sure your county fills all it's slots at the conventions and do what you can to introduce good resolutions and elect good state and district officers.
This strategy works. The 8th Congressional District of Georgia has been turned around with true conservatives in all offices. Some headway has been made at the state level, and we intend to finish the job at the next election of officers. Moderate RINO officers of the GA GOP, you better have your big boy pants on. What happened in 2012 WILL NOT BE REPEATED. Our next slate of National delegates will have grit, not be (mushy) grits.
If enough people join this way and follow this plan, we can turn the GOP into a true second party in a two party system, and thus offer a clear alternative to the electorate. There are more non voters than members of either party or the mushy middle independents. Given a clear alternative, a true small government party will attract most of those votes. The key is offering a difference through a different GOP that has been co opted from within.
Why do you accuse FReepers of being the depraved things they’re not?
Freerepublic is not a republican site, and I and any other freeper will post on any thread that we bloody well choose to.
Perhaps you should appeal to management to move your thread to religion, and allow you to form a rino/GOP religious caucus, then only members of your party could post on it.
That is two meaningless, non-thread related personal attacks.
Are you stalking me? Dragging baggage from thread to thread?
It appears you are, you need to focus on the thread itself and the topic.
Over the last few days you have tried to classify me as something. It varies day by day. Today I’m a RINO because I propose a way to fix the GOP. Yesterday I was an OK because of agreeing with you that openly practicing homosexuals are bad for the military. The day before I was all “slippery” because I used Christian principles to make a point. On Monday I was an immoral libertarian pushing abortion, open borders, homosexual marriage, bestiality, etc. because I don’t believe social conservative values can be instilled through governmental force while maintaining our rights.
Tomorrow, what I will be according to you? Do you have any plans?
I really don’t care, because tomorrow you’ll still be nuttier than a trainload of squirrel manure.
You are wrong, the social conservatives are what moved the GOP right under Reagan and who the rinos fight still today.
The rinos have always owned the republican party, that is why it was so repulsive. Reagan was a conservative and brought in the conservatives, defeating HW Bush in 1979, unfortunately, the rinos have remained in control.
Rinos despise social conservatives, the Reagan republicans and desperately want to rid the party of them.
You really need to stop personalizing your posting here and carrying baggage and personal grudges around the forum.
Try to focus on the thread topic, politics.
You don’t know. You have never been a Republican. Remember?
You’re still a nut, though
How am I off-thread? Did I make a mistake in saying you disparage other FReepers. I’m sorry.
So are you a Democrat or an Independent?
Spend much time projecting your faults onto others?
You sound like a very young guy that a lot of this is new to.
Many of us here know quite a lot about the republican party, the democrat party, the libertarian party and American political history, it is one reason we are long time members of freerepublic.
Freerepublic is an independent, conservative site, I am an Independent Conservative.
>> I am an Independent Conservative.
Interesting. Is that something like a libertarian conservative?
Money, money, money, and "conservatives" compromising what should never be compromised. I know. I watched it happen up close and personal.
So, are you going to try to help?
Why would I want to help an organization that even you admit has been taken over by "RINO"s?
You're fooling yourself if you think you can take it back. Their control has deepened, not loosened. Have you paid no attention to what happened last year in Tampa, or what has happened since? Shoot, they're even embedding RNC minders in the state parties now.
Don't worry though. They'll be more than happy to let you take lower level positions, or to tinker around with the platform they ignore. They do need useful idiots and cannon fodder.
Just don't try to get uppity though. They'll crush you like a bug.
Geez, what a trivial series of silly posts to me.
Thanks for the advice. Sounds like they pretty well buffaloed you out. Sorry you feel that way.
Yeah, I watched Tampa. Columbus, GA was bad enough. Columbus won’t be repeated, and if enough states can get their stuff straight Tampa won’t be repeated either.
I wish you could help.
>> You are a bunch of chicken (manure), whiney assed, quitter babies
I understand the thrust of your point, but alienating the principled conservatives isn’t going help.
I agree the Republican Party should be salvaged and the RINOs punted through elections/attrition. And I believe this can happen at the grass roots but it requires active participation from the regular folks not normally inclined to get involved. It also requires involvement from the so-called “quitter babies”.
Before getting too frustrated with those that fully reject the GOP, understand their frustration with the decades of deceit the GOP has inflicted on the constituents.
Currently, there are 18 GOP seats in the House that may deservedly go Democrat.
I don’t mean to be silly. You seem like an upstanding FReeper. Is an Independent Conservative anything like a libertarian conservative?
And the reason I asked is because most pundits and political experts tend to lump the independents and libertarians together. I think it’s interesting you’re qualifying your Independent affiliation with conservatism; a distinction from the Independent Liberal.
“Buffaloed me out”? No, they lied, cheated, sabotaged, slandered, didn’t count our votes, fought our conservative candidates every step of the way.
At some point you wake up to the fact you’re not wanted.
Ever hear of Einstein’s definition of insanity?
By the way, I tried it your way for more than twenty years. I was a state GOP official at one point, having started out as a precinct chairman. I’ve worked on campaigns at every level, in most parts of the country. I’ve helped rebuild GOP organizations from the local and county level up in several states.
What is your experience that can help lend credence to your chosen direction?
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