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Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government
http://www.washingtonpost.com ^ | October 4 at 1:45 pm | By Greg Sargent

Posted on 10/04/2013 11:23:59 AM PDT by redreno

House Democratic leaders believe they have hit on a new way to potentially force House Republican leaders into allowing a vote on a “clean CR” funding the government without any defunding of Obamacare attached.

At last count, as many as two dozen House Republicans appear prepared to vote for a clean CR. With Democrats included, that means a majority of the House of Representatives would vote right now to reopen the government. But the House GOP leadership won’t allow such a vote.

Dems have hit on a way to use a “discharge petition,” which forces a House vote if a majority of Representatives signs it, to try to force the issue. Previously, it was thought this could not work, because a discharge petition takes 30 legislative days to ripen, so if this were tried with the clean CR that passed the Senate, this couldn’t bear fruit until some time in November.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: budget; congress; corruption; coup; democrats; dischargepetition; economy; fraud; govtabuse; mediabias; obama; obamacare; taxes; tyranny
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To: redreno

No, too many of the 18 that were supposed to cave have promised Conservative talk show hosts that it was all lies. dims always lie... it is all that they have.


21 posted on 10/04/2013 11:34:59 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: rrrod

I agree. For the 1st time in a very long time, I am proud of John Boehner for standing strong and toeing the line.


22 posted on 10/04/2013 11:35:06 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Begin by stripping these turncoats from all their committee positions and tell them to ask the Dems for one.


23 posted on 10/04/2013 11:35:20 AM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: combat_boots
Tell the House to

Hold your position!


24 posted on 10/04/2013 11:36:59 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

Thanks..we have to win this...


25 posted on 10/04/2013 11:38:51 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: redreno

Any RINO who votes with the RATs has no political career left, IMO.


26 posted on 10/04/2013 11:39:03 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Never a penny (or a vote) to a LIB, DIM or RINO. Never.


27 posted on 10/04/2013 11:41:01 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: redreno

Brendan Buck @Brendan_Buck

Ah, the old discharge petition move. Zero percent of the time it works every time.

Republicans have been quietly revolting and are showing support for a clean CR, including:
Peter T. King of New York,
Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania,
Michael G. Grimm of New York,
Mike Simpson of Idaho,
Devin Nunes of California,
C.W. Bill Young of Florida,
Erik Paulsen of Minnesota,
Frank A. LoBiondo of New Jersey,
Leonard Lance of New Jersey,
Jon Runyan of New Jersey,
Lou Barletta of Pennsylvania,
Jim Gerlach of Pennsylvania,
Michael G. Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania,
Patrick Meehan of Pennsylvania,
Frank R. Wolf of Virginia,
J. Randy Forbes of Virginia,
Rob Wittman of Virginia and
Scott Rigell of Virginia.

http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/breaking-democrats-to-discharge-gop-bill-to-end-shutdown/


28 posted on 10/04/2013 11:41:11 AM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: redreno

1. The House of Reps has reportedly passed all the budget bills needed to fully fund the entire Leviathan (excepting of course Obammycare)
2. the Obama says he will not negotiate with the Congress
so

Speaker Boehner should give a one minute speech pointing the above out, recess the House, and let the members go home.

the House has done its job. The rest is now up to the Senate and Obama.

easy solution. (and if the House is not in session, quisling members can’t sell out what the House has already accomplished)


29 posted on 10/04/2013 11:43:08 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Er)
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To: mrsmel

The best thing for these guys is to have it both ways- complain about the shutdown, but not vote against it.
Boehner’s letting them do just that.
They’d lose votes from their gov employee constituents if they vote against a “clean CR” and lose votes from conservatives if they vote for it.

Now the senate is a whole different can of worms because their campaigns are heavily influenced by the national media. That’s where the danger is.


30 posted on 10/04/2013 11:45:53 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: EBH

That’s the same bunch from 2 days ago.


31 posted on 10/04/2013 11:48:39 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Truth29

Peter King is rapidly becoming the House’s John McCain.


32 posted on 10/04/2013 11:55:44 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: faithhopecharity

If Boehner did that, wouldn’t Obama just call Congress back into session? That is, assuming the Dems had the votes to succeed with this discharge petition plan.


33 posted on 10/04/2013 11:57:29 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Political Junkie Too
There is a simple way for Boehner to avoid this even if democrats get the signatures....adjourn the house before the vote takes place. Then NOTHING can be voted on until the house is back in session...

The Constitution says that both chambers have to agree to an adjournment of more than 3 days. Reid would never consent to a House adjournment over this.

True. Also, the Constitution says that the President may convene one or both Houses of Congress. So, if Boehner adjourned the house to prevent a vote on the bill, Obama would just convene the house so it could vote on the bill.

34 posted on 10/04/2013 12:00:35 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: EBH

Well if Bohner has any balls he will immediately ask them all to a meeting and threaten to toss their sorry asses off any committees, then do it.

That’s what he did with the Conservatives a while back.


35 posted on 10/04/2013 12:00:57 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: redreno

GOP stand your ground and We the People will stand with you. If you surrender, we will walk all over you.

God save the Republic.......


36 posted on 10/04/2013 12:01:56 PM PDT by Gator113 (The mighty Bear ate the cowardly rat. Obama must resign.)
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To: redreno

Gotta give credit to the Dems for using all available rules to their advantage. When conservatives try to take advantage of the rules to advance their agenda, the RINOs tell us it’s “inappropriate” and “disrespectful.”


37 posted on 10/04/2013 12:05:25 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: VRWCarea51
Well if Bohner has any balls he will immediately ask them all to a meeting and threaten to toss their sorry asses off any committees, then do it.

Yup. That's the best way to stop this thing (though, with some of these squishy RINOs, it may not be enough). I'm skeptical, though - I'm worried that Boehner wants it both ways - he wants a "clean" CR to pass, but wants to establish some credibility with conservatives, so he needs to oppose it. The dims' discharge maneuver gives him a way to do both, which is why I'm a bit pessimistic. I don't know if there are enough RINOs who are willing to sign the petition at this point, but if there are, I doubt Boehner is willing/able to exert enough pressure to stop them.

39 posted on 10/04/2013 12:15:01 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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