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Did past government shutdowns result in the closure of commissaries?

Posted on 10/04/2013 1:05:50 PM PDT by dangus

Wondering how much of the military families' hardships are directly caused by the government shutdown, and how much is Obama unleashing his hatred on his fellow American.


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1 posted on 10/04/2013 1:05:50 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

There’s a difference?


2 posted on 10/04/2013 1:07:27 PM PDT by AF_Blue ("America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, bad ass speed." - Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936)
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To: dangus

I don’t think so. ODUNGO LIKE HILDA, really despise the military


3 posted on 10/04/2013 1:10:30 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: dangus

SAMS CLUB is stepping up offering free membership to military till Obama gets his head out of his a%%


4 posted on 10/04/2013 1:17:47 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: dangus

I come from a military family [both as a brat and in the service]

Other than getting more than competitive supplier contracts since they are part of the government, commissaries are self-sustaining entities that DO NOT rely on federal money. They make a small profit and pay the salaries and bennies for all of their workers.

There is no reason that they should be closed - but they are ...


5 posted on 10/04/2013 1:20:40 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Lmo56

But did Zero close the golf courses on bases in the D.C. area? I’d bet not.


6 posted on 10/04/2013 1:33:00 PM PDT by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: Lmo56

Actually I think that’s the case for PX/BXs, but that the commissaries are subsidized. That’s why the former aren’t closed, but the latter are.


7 posted on 10/04/2013 1:36:26 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: dangus

Good question. Needs to be expanded: how much did they close up on the last shutdown, was the Mall closed up with barricades - same for the Lincoln Memorial?


8 posted on 10/04/2013 1:36:32 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: dangus

The “overseas” commissaries are open. At least the one in Fort Buchanan, Puerto Rico is.


9 posted on 10/04/2013 1:46:14 PM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: FreedomPoster
commissaries are subsidized

Other than the sweetheart supplier contracts that allow the commissaries to purchase way below market rates - the commissaries pay for themselves ...

10 posted on 10/04/2013 1:47:49 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: cll

Walter Reed commissary is closed ...


11 posted on 10/04/2013 1:48:49 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: beelzepug

Nope - Andrews AFB golf course outside DC is open ...


12 posted on 10/04/2013 1:49:42 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: dangus

I was in the military during the last shutdown (in the 1990s) and the commissaries did not shut down. The commissary charges a 5% surcharge so they can stand alone and the people that work for the commissaries are not civil servants). They get an ID card that allows them access to base, but the commissary is no different than a Burger King on base that is there, kept open during shutdowns, and whose employees are not federal govn’t employees.

The same is true with the MCX (PX) - MWR owns and operates things like the stores on base, car washes, camping, boat rental, the Marine Corps Inn (Navy Lodge), etc. - those people are not federal employees.

The Commissary and PX could remain open, but they already did what they did with sequestration by closing the commissary and SOME PX’s one day a week pretending they don’t pay for themselves with surcharges or the markup from retail, but they’re trying to hurt troops because they are sympathetic.


13 posted on 10/04/2013 1:54:58 PM PDT by SteveYuhas (These guys stormed Nazi Europe - they can get through Barry's Wall)
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To: Lmo56; FreedomPoster
sweetheart supplier contracts

This is new to me.

Could you tell us what the difference is between a subsidy and a sweetheart supplier contract?

14 posted on 10/04/2013 2:25:55 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Damn ObamaCare, full speed ahead!)
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To: cll

Heard that El Morro & surrounding fortresses, El Yunque Rain Forest and some beaches are closed on the Island due to the shutdown. Hope there’s enough Bacardi for everyone to go around! Best!

http://skift.com/2013/10/02/shutdown-2013-tourism-takes-a-big-hit-in-u-s-territory-of-puerto-rico/


15 posted on 10/05/2013 9:03:18 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Could you tell us what the difference is between a subsidy and a sweetheart supplier contract?

Its the economy of scale.

The gov't can negotiate great price per unit contracts if they guarantee suppliers minimum orders - say, for example, $1/unit for a million units [on a unit that normally sells for $2].

The commissary can then sell a unit for $1.50 and make 50% profit [before expenses]. Makes the commissary more competitive than local competitors. It is NOT a subsidy - NO taxpayer money spent.

Think, for example, Walmart vs. Mom & Pop's - no difference ...

16 posted on 10/05/2013 12:20:48 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Lmo56

I’ve got to hand it to you, it seems you said all that without cracking a smile.

Kudos.


17 posted on 10/05/2013 3:36:00 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Damn ObamaCare, full speed ahead!)
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To: dangus

Bet Carter and Reagan didn’t close any commissaries or national parks.


18 posted on 10/05/2013 3:57:08 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: FreedomPoster

Commissaries are not subsidized. They are closed because Obummer is a donkey’s hind quarters


19 posted on 10/05/2013 3:59:06 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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