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House Approves Backpay for Furloughed Feds
Federal News Radio ^ | Oct, 5 2013 | Jack Moore

Posted on 10/05/2013 9:05:24 AM PDT by Gasshog

The House voted unanimously Saturday morning to approve a bipartisan bill ensuring furloughed federal workers receive backpay once the government shutdown ends.

The vote on the Federal Employee Retroactive Pay Fairness Act was 407-0. Twenty-five members didn't vote.

The measure now moves to the Senate, where it is expected to pass. Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) had introduced a Senate version of the bill earlier this week.

(Excerpt) Read more at federalnewsradio.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: appropriations; congress; funding; obamacaves; shutdown

Census union employees remain unaware of latest developments. ;)

1 posted on 10/05/2013 9:05:24 AM PDT by Gasshog
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To: Gasshog

Gee, what a shocker.


2 posted on 10/05/2013 9:06:24 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Gasshog

If they apply for unemployment and get that and back pay, do they get to keep both?


3 posted on 10/05/2013 9:08:26 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Gasshog

Yep, I guess furloughs don’t save money once the {expletives} in government turn them into paid vacations. I’d like to get me some of that action.


4 posted on 10/05/2013 9:09:06 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Gasshog

They just are not “getting it”, and they won’t until people are starving and killing each other for food.


5 posted on 10/05/2013 9:11:35 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Gasshog

So then the Republican House caves and the federal employees get paid vacations —


6 posted on 10/05/2013 9:13:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Rusty0604

No. I read about that earlier this week. They can file for unemployment benefits in Maryland after a day or two, but in other states have to wait a week or two. It was mentioned in a sob story about how federal employees were on the brink of starving in the streets after the first 24 hours of their vacation.


7 posted on 10/05/2013 9:16:10 AM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Rusty0604

No.

Unemployment benefits will need to be payed back, if they receive back pay.


8 posted on 10/05/2013 9:17:31 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: FoxInSocks

This just the usual political crap. The fed “workers” always get a free paid vacay from the taxpayers when this happens. Always. What a joke.


9 posted on 10/05/2013 9:18:03 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Gasshog

What I’d give for a job that furloughed me, couldn’t fire me, and then paid me all the back pay after the furlough ended. Instead I work for companies that can fire me at will. And they do it, too, when business conditions turn tough.

John Edwards was right, there are “two Americas.”


10 posted on 10/05/2013 9:18:35 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: hal ogen

and in the meantime they sign up for unemployment compensation

so wrong


11 posted on 10/05/2013 9:19:38 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Rusty0604

Pretty sure the State will want their money back if gov employees receive unemployment and back-pay. Unless, thats racist...


12 posted on 10/05/2013 9:20:34 AM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: Gasshog

Census “UNION” what the hell? AFSCME? AFGE assumedly.

Of course, there should not be any federal job or agency that is unionized, or else the same rules should apply— no work, no pay, regardless who shuts down. They have civil service jobs for.... Life for Lord’s sake.


13 posted on 10/05/2013 9:23:20 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Gasshog

In the unemployment world it is called an overpayment and they need to pay it back. Theoretically, of course.


14 posted on 10/05/2013 9:23:47 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Gasshog

So...we’re all supposed to feel sorry for a bunch of federal employees being given paid vacations? My heart pumps p**s for them.


15 posted on 10/05/2013 9:25:15 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FoxInSocks

Meanwhile in the real world 23 million formerly employed people are not employed and cannot get unemployment of any kind or...a company cannot hire because of Obamaumaocare. Brilliant dimo move. They simply are not American, period.


16 posted on 10/05/2013 9:25:22 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Gasshog

” The measure now moves to the Senate, where it is expected to pass. “

Soon as the Senate starts to pass any of these piece-meal bills it makes it even harder for them to not pass subsequent bills of this type.

This, and the Kenyan’s furious demeanor at his little fit-throwing speeches look like cracks in the dem’s resolve
to me.

Republicans are very accustomed to criticism. The left..not so much.


17 posted on 10/05/2013 9:25:39 AM PDT by bluescape (The American media, The guard dog that holds you down while the attacker has his way.)
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To: FoxInSocks

Meanwhile in the real world 23 million formerly employed people are not employed and cannot get unemployment of any kind or...a company cannot hire because of Obamaumaocare. Brilliant dimo move. They simply are not American, period.


18 posted on 10/05/2013 9:26:21 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Gasshog

Well...on the positive side the door has been pried open...


19 posted on 10/05/2013 9:30:56 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Gasshog
I've been laid off for weeks from a private sector job.

Where do I go to get my back pay?

Government workers = pampered class and I'm SICK OF IT!!!

20 posted on 10/05/2013 9:31:45 AM PDT by bayliving
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To: Gasshog

It’s disappointing they didn’t add a rider to open all the parks and forests (and the ocean they closed).


21 posted on 10/05/2013 9:32:02 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Gasshog

Retroactive pay is criminal!!!

There’s no shutdown, just a paid vacation.

Every member of the House should lose their job!


22 posted on 10/05/2013 9:36:55 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Gasshog

If they are going to get back-pay, then they should have an appropriate number of vacation days taken away from their account.


23 posted on 10/05/2013 9:40:56 AM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: Gasshog

So glad that they could look after constituency number one: the federal worker.

And what, they’ll pull out money to pay all the concession operators who have lost money from the shutdown? Will they pay the furloughed employees of those private enterprises? What about those that service federal contracts but aren’t directly paid by the feds? Will they get their money?

Two Americas is right. We are all equal, but some are just a tiny bit more equal.


24 posted on 10/05/2013 9:45:52 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Gasshog

Could be good strategery at work. Here’s the optimistic view:

If the House refuses this, they look like the Barrycader, pain-inducers.

Also, this will enrage the public. The public may insist they go back to work for the money, which only pressures the Senate to approve mini-CRs that the House sends (w/o 0bamacare).


25 posted on 10/05/2013 9:51:04 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Gasshog

What is worse:
Paying them to do nothing?
Or paying them to cause trouble for Americans?

I think we come out ahead with these paid vacations.


26 posted on 10/05/2013 9:54:17 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: bluescape

Exactly. Too many people on this site don’t get it.

This was a brilliant move by the Republicans. The Senate is almost certain to pass it and obama to sign it. As soon as that happens, the whole democrat line about not compromising or doing piecemeal funding goes right out the window.


27 posted on 10/05/2013 10:09:04 AM PDT by XRdsRev (New Jersey - Crossroads of the American Revolution)
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To: bluescape

You are right on!!! Many Freepers don’t grasp that by getting this bill passed in the house and senate...and...Obama will sign it...the Democrats have caved in!!! The Pubbies should now go public and show the entire country how the low life Democrat and Obama are (Hypocites)!!! Hang in there Pubbies...you will come out on top. You are already there...except the braindead Obamabot media continues to live in the Obamabot “Bubble” of fantasy. Obamacare has failed miserably on all counts!!!


28 posted on 10/05/2013 10:14:19 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Gasshog

Not all. Intermittent employees are just screwed.


29 posted on 10/05/2013 10:29:13 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
What I’d give for a job that furloughed me, couldn’t fire me, and then paid me all the back pay after the furlough ended.

What is stopping you from applying for federal employment? They employ people in most occupations, in all areas of the country.

BTW, no retroactive pay for the furlough days a couple of months ago. Also looking at additional furlough days in 2014 as well as layoffs. This is for DoD - unsure how other agencies are affected, if at all. DoD must cut $50 billion again this year. US Army (military) will reduce to 490,000, which is about the size of the entire force we sent to Saudi Arabia in the first Gulf War.

30 posted on 10/05/2013 10:34:09 AM PDT by jim-x (9/11/2001 - Never forget, Never forgive.)
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To: Gasshog

so when do they go back to work?


31 posted on 10/05/2013 10:34:17 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Gasshog

For a while I was beginning to believe the Republicans were serious about cutting back on government costs. Now it shows that they are just posturing in a political frame of reference. If they had tied the delayed payment to keeping only necessary functions I would have a much better feeling about their actions. I am hoping and wondering if there is a Cruz or Lee who can step forward and keep the ‘tea party’ going.


32 posted on 10/05/2013 10:43:16 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Yeah, actually if census workers weren’t furloughed some would be banging on front doors demanding that you respond to ACS or calling your office and driving your accounting staff crazy.

Sorta provides a vaca for their intended victims, eh?


33 posted on 10/05/2013 10:48:14 AM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: Gasshog
I only Obama, Reid, Pelosi and their Media Gerbils were as concerned about 20 million unemployed civilians including those that have stopped looking for a job!!
34 posted on 10/05/2013 11:00:57 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracka -- Don't Call Me Cracker)
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To: XRdsRev; PoloSec; Gasshog; bluescape
I can hardly sympathize with people who make a living harassing others and making it difficult for energy companies to provide jobs. But politically, this is a smart move, as XRdsREV has written.

Once a bill has passed the house giving back pay for furloughed Federal workers and is passed by the Senate and signed by the President the narrative starts looking like this:

How can you give furloughed Federal workers back pay when you won't fund the NIH so that children with cancer can get treated? Isn't the whole point of health care to provide medical treatment for all Americans? So how do you justify giving money to healthy Federal workers and then turn around and let sick children die?

How can you provide back pay for furloughed Federal workers and but you won't fund the Reserves and National Guard?

How can you provide back pay for furloughed Federal workers but you won't provide funding for sick veterans? Isn't the point of health care to provide treatment for sick people? Why are healthy furloughed Federal workers more important than sick veterans?

Kind of a conundrum isn't it? If the Senate doesn't pass the bill it is going to piss off the furloughed Federal workers and their unions.

If the Senate passes it and Obama vetoes it, it is going to piss off the furloughed Federal workers and their unions.

If the Senate passes it, and Obama signs it, then the whole facade of no negotiations fades away. It opens the door just a little, but just enough to get leverage to pry it wide open. And ultimately, it might be the end of Obamacare.

35 posted on 10/05/2013 11:06:05 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: jim-x

What is stopping me from applying to FedGov? You’ve got to be kidding. I’ve worked with government people in the DOE. Once was enough in my career. I could never work in a lazy, no-account organization where a significant fraction of the workers are called “non-essential.” You won’t find ONE person in my company with that label. I wouldn’t last a week in FedGov. I have my pride.


36 posted on 10/05/2013 12:24:36 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Gasshog.


37 posted on 10/05/2013 1:12:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Rusty0604

Not only do they get paid for both, but they get a free vacation, as furloughed days do not count against official leave.


38 posted on 10/05/2013 1:33:05 PM PDT by catman67
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To: Gasshog

As usual, the “government shutdown” provides paid vacation for government “workers” and nothing for the millions of private sector people who have lost their jobs or had hours cut to less than 30 / wk in order to avoid the Mengelecare mandates.

Congratulations, congress, you sick pieces of sh**.


39 posted on 10/05/2013 1:37:33 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: corlorde

Question.
Do their accrued leave time accounts get charged?
Or do they get regular hours pay?


40 posted on 10/05/2013 1:40:02 PM PDT by Palio di Siena (Obama loves the USA like OJ loved Nicole)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

So in other words, your statement about giving anything for a job like that is not true and i must assume all your other comments, opinions, and personal experiences regarding federal employment or employees are pure BS.


41 posted on 10/05/2013 2:06:34 PM PDT by jim-x (9/11/2001 - Never forget, Never forgive.)
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To: Palio di Siena

That, I’m unsure about. I just know if they receive unemployment benefits here in the state of NH and then get back pay, the unemployment gets paid back, or so they say.


42 posted on 10/05/2013 2:08:42 PM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: jim-x

yes


43 posted on 10/05/2013 2:11:21 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Gasshog

Once again, bipartisan support for screwing the U.S. taxpayer. When are people going to wake up?


44 posted on 10/05/2013 6:03:00 PM PDT by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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