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Manchin Shows First Crack in Democratic Front on Debt Limit
Rollcall ^ | 5:55 p.m. today | Meredith Shiner

Posted on 10/08/2013 3:16:35 PM PDT by Red Steel

Sen. Joe Manchin III said Tuesday that Democrats should negotiate a debt deal as part of the debt limit increase — a break from Democratic leaders and President Barack Obama.

The West Virginia Democrat said he personally is “looking for a bigger plan” to reduce the debt as part of the discussion to authorize payment of the government’s bills.

Manchin talked to a group of reporters before Democrats’ weekly luncheon Tuesday and said he supports using the debt limit debate as a vehicle to attach deficit reduction, such as the Bowles-Simpson plan — Democratic leaders and the president have vowed not to negotiate any concessions to the GOP under threat of a default. Manchin would not say whether this meant he would join the GOP in filibustering debate over a straight-up extension of the debt limit that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., planned to introduce Tuesday.

“I’m looking for a bigger plan. … I’m worried about my children and grandchildren and it seems like here all we’re worried about is how we get to our next crisis,” Manchin said. “People may be talking about no negotiation. You’ve got to negotiate. That’s what we’re here to do.”

When pressed on whether he thought it was a “mistake” for Reid to push forward with a clean debt limit bill, which could be voted on as early as this week, Manchin would not say.

“I’m not going to say what is going to be a mistake, [but] I’ve never seen anything that’s been a big hit around here,” Manchin said.

After Tuesday’s lunch, the West Virginia Democrat did not clarify or change his position, though Democrats did discuss a clean debt ceiling bill strategy Manchin claimed to have never heard of previously.

Democratic leadership aides have said they believe their bosses can hold all 54 members of their caucus on a procedural vote to consider the clean debt limit bill, just like they did in repeated votes on bills from House Republicans leading up to and since the shutdown Oct. 1. And as we reported Monday, several Republicans are poised to break with their party to support opening up debate on the bill to avert a government default.

But Manchin’s comments and the potential actions they belie do not constitute the first problem for leaders from the West Virginian’s outsized and oft-expressed shoot-from-the-hip opinions. And it most likely won’t be the last.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 113th; abortion; deathpanels; debtceiling; joemanchin; obamacare; westvirginia; zerocare

1 posted on 10/08/2013 3:16:35 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

A little bit of coal policy payback?


2 posted on 10/08/2013 3:18:21 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupy the DC Mall - take back the monuments)
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To: Red Steel

It is near certain there are more. Dingy Harry would be bringing bills to the floor if he had the votes

Democrat senators are like lots of queers. They fear coming out of the closet


3 posted on 10/08/2013 3:21:26 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: bert
Democrat senators are like lots of queers.

Not to mention a lot of them are packers.

4 posted on 10/08/2013 3:26:20 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: Red Steel

People in WV love socialism but for some unexplained reason balked at Gore, Kerry, and Obama.


5 posted on 10/08/2013 3:29:22 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: Red Steel

Good explanation about the what it means to default versus not paying the interest on US bonds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0fNwd_1WyQ


6 posted on 10/08/2013 3:36:58 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Red Steel
"I’m worried about my children and grandchildren and it seems like here all we’re worried about is how we get to our next crisis,” Manchin said"

Certainly sounds intelligent...

7 posted on 10/08/2013 4:00:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Red Steel

Please this dummy said he would vote for the 1 year delay and didnt


8 posted on 10/08/2013 4:30:07 PM PDT by italianquaker
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To: italianquaker

Perhaps he is negotiating for an end to the EPA coal regs


9 posted on 10/08/2013 4:34:45 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Red Steel

Well...we have an honorable Democrat in West Virginia? I’ve been wondering where our honorable Democrats were.


10 posted on 10/08/2013 4:35:43 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Red Steel

No deals. Surrender first. It’s a trap.


11 posted on 10/08/2013 4:37:56 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Red Steel

he just wants to appear patriotic and conservative once in a blue moon to make his West Virginians content.....


12 posted on 10/08/2013 8:43:52 PM PDT by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: cherry

keep your eye on the prize.


13 posted on 10/09/2013 10:58:05 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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