Posted on 10/12/2013 1:05:58 PM PDT by Conservative Beacon
You mean political suicide I think.
One had to be accepted as part of the group in order for it to be political suicide. I think the GOPe would call it political murder because despite what you think, they don't see you as part of them, they don't want you.
“I eagerly await a conservative second party.”
You’ll be waiting until the South Pole melts. Give me a ring when conservatives organize enough to send four people - make it three - to a schoolboard meeting to protest commie teachers. Conservatives don’t organize; they bitch about everything and then go worship Mammon.
“You mean political suicide I think.”
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Parse it anyway you like, but a third party will not win.
True America will be split, while the Communist gain strength.
Yeah, split between going over the cliff to the left at high speed or at higher speed OR turning the right and not going over the cliff at all.
“We Americans really have nothing left to lose by starting a third party that represents conservatives.”
Not unless you care about all your other states looking like California.
Just compare California to Idaho. See the difference?
Republican conservatives under the banner of the “tea party movement” is not mainstream but “moderate Me Too republicans” (now refered to as democrat lite) is. This is the new “mantra” led off by the AP and supported by a NBC phoney poll the media is using given to them by the Demo-Com central commandantura.
CNN’s Van Jones was on 10/10/13 am 890’s WLS morning show. Jones opened his fly and started flashing the same pitch. And was told to zip it. .It’s just sad the GOPES continue with their stupid Pustch to purge conservatives.The question is will some historian in a future year reviewing the demise of the Republican party make the claim the Republican leadership of this era were working with the socialist/communists to purge the party of the conservatives ? BTW (by the way) WLS’s morning show hosts has been doing a decent job of exposing these demo-com media poseurs spreading that message.
The media could be given a sound trashing by conservative talk shows just citing the stuff they were using to incite racial strife which has resulted in black youths (mainly) attacks on whites and hispanics resulting in deaths.
But it’s not even being approached. Not only (pardon the pun) collectively, but individually. Doing so would clearly point out that the visual and print media will are deep in the socialist agenda sewer with the regime. They are creating an America its citizens does not know.
Because each one of the media alphabet soup kitchens individually cooked up socialist concoctions following the cue given them by The POTUS Obama. Falling all over each other defending Obama’s mere comments “If I had a son” and “That could have been me” utterances which served as cues to the direction the propapganda was to take.
The fact that The POTUS embelished one statement after another. And as POTUS had to have full knowledge of the circumstaces of the Florida episode which in essence was a black on black episode. Yet POTUS Obama decided to manipulate the facts into a full blown racial incident to furthur a socialist concept and inflame a political base makes the Je Accuse Dreyfus scandal look like French pastry.
Letting POTUS Obama and his media get away with this travesty particularly by the clueless political opposition boggles the mind. But the facts are that’s what the conservative movement called the “tea party” is dealing with.
This is the correct course of action, but I fear it won't matter anyway. Just too many liberals in GOP ranks. At least we can say NO to Cornball in November 2014.
Might work, ala Joe Lieberman, but the TEApublicans might not even have to register such a threat to the establishment to take over.
Ted Cruz is displaying the sort of rare courage that energizes and mobilizes whole movements. As long as he and his fellow patriots in Congress hold firm in their convictions, their numbers will increase, whether they lose a battle here, or a battle there.
Given the palpable sense of rebellion all across the right, I think we could see a fundamental shift in the direction of the party in the next elections. I don't think for a minute that we'll achieve a purified Republican party by 2014, but I do think the momentum toward that goal will be visible and unstoppable by that time.
The people are onto the quisling GOP-e, and won't rest until they have real representation in their government. No matter what it takes.
There’s also been a poll cited (don’t remember the exact numbers) but it showed the republican party down in the polls. The MSM has been using the poll to attack the GOP from the left.
But there was another poll that said something like 53% of republicans support a third party.
Well, that first poll cited by the MSM may include a lot of conservatives who are very unhappy with the GOPe.
“Haha...good luck with that”
I think you’ll be in more need of that luck if your objective is to breathe life into the decaying corpse of the gop. The gop brand is beyond damaged at this point: it’s toxic.
Hold that thought until we hear the magic words, “I’m not a candidate in 2016.”
“The leaders are correct, but a third party [right now] will destroy the country. Not a good thing.”
I see it the other way. If something significant isn’t done soon to restore some confidence in our Federal government, we will be facing a national divorce inside of 5 years. Once that divorce process gets going in earnest, it won’t matter if the gop or the ‘rats or the raving loony party is more popular, it’ll already be game over.
That something *significant* might be the rise of a second party. It might be something else.
“Possibly the kingdom form of government is actually better overall.”
I’m not a fan of royalty, and I think one of the better things we did as a people was to throw the british royalty out on it’s ear. That said, representative democracy in our country hasn’t been exactly friendly to personal liberty over the last 20-30 years.
“A third party would be suicide. The only hope is for the Tea party types to out-primary the RINOS, forming the Republican party on Tea Party values.”
I’d settle for SECOND party let alone a third.
The gop brand is toxic. Time to move on.
Certainly, not possibly! Otherwise, how about a dynamic multi-party system where parties arise and die as ideas about governing arise and die. What we've got here is besides a failure to communicate, is a static political system of two statist parties that stand for no principles, that stand for nothing more than just goodness!
True. I do not want a 3-election.
If multiple parties become more common, we need to take the top two and have a run-off.
“Even before this shutdown many of us knew that the republicans would likely lose the House thanks to Boehner.”
You’re speaking a truth that few dare utter here: the gop is not winning.
Here in VA we have a notsohotso situation developing. We have a really great slate of candidates running on the gop statewide ticket. I mean just unusually good. And with the possible exception of one (Obenshain -AG), they’re not winning. Ken Cuccinelli is down 6-10 depending on the poll and E.W. Jackson is about the same. The kicker is that for the gubernatorial race, the libertarian who is a complete unknown is getting in the 10-12% range.
About the only saving grace for conservatives is that the state Senate isn’t up for election this year as well.
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