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This ain't your average survival shelter (Business is booming)
CBS News ^ | October 12, 2013 | Carter Evans

Posted on 10/13/2013 1:00:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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MONTEBELLO, Calif. - There's nothing new about predictions that the end of the world is upon us. But there's plenty new about how some people are preparing for it.

What began as a pipe dream for Ron Hubbard has become big business...underground

"We call this the backyard bunker," Hubbard said as he showed us one of his survival shelters.

These days, the fear market is booming.

"I can't build them fast enough right now," he said. "It's better to have a shelter 10 years early than five minutes late."

But unlike those Cold War-era concrete bunkers with just the basics, these survival shelters come fully loaded.

"It's got everything a house does," Hubbard said. "It's just 20-feet underground. Luxury bedrooms, big screen TVs , game room, underground pool. You can have anything you want." He's even seen people put Jacuzzis in them.....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: paranoia; preppers; prepping; shelters; survival
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I wonder why?
1 posted on 10/13/2013 1:00:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Apocalyptic fears.

In general, group prepping where possible makes more sense than single prepping.


2 posted on 10/13/2013 1:06:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s a freebie for a resourceful seller to this market.

“Pieces of Eight”

A tool that can easily cut a gold coin into smaller increments.


3 posted on 10/13/2013 1:09:00 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While I can certainly appreciate having a comfortable shelter, if you can afford one, I think a Jacuzzi is a bit much.

What tv station is going to be broadcasting during the end of the world?


4 posted on 10/13/2013 1:12:47 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


5 posted on 10/13/2013 1:15:47 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Hubbard? He must be a son or grandson of L. Ron Hubbard, the guy who wrote about alien pyramid builders and similar stuff.


6 posted on 10/13/2013 1:17:37 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

And then he invented Scientology.

http://www.amazon.com/Scientology-Fundamentals-L-Ron-Hubbard/dp/1403144206/ref=sr_1_8?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1381695509&sr=1-8&keywords=l+ron+hubbard


7 posted on 10/13/2013 1:19:46 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Jonty30

While I can certainly appreciate having a comfortable shelter, if you can afford one, I think a Jacuzzi is a bit much.

What tv station is going to be broadcasting during the end of the world?


During Katrina, in a live broadcast of the “horror” from a helicopter shot, they briefly captured a group folks parting in their backyard pool.

They quickly cut away from that image and went back to describe the helpless.


8 posted on 10/13/2013 1:20:06 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Cicero

And folks bought this invention, just because it was cool. (Actually it does some pretty skilled riffs off of Christian spirituality, including some widely neglected aspects of it.)


9 posted on 10/13/2013 1:22:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Jonty30

If SHTF, I would not want to be in a glorified Quonset under ground.

“Yeah, in a basement. You know, fightin’ in a basement offers a lot of difficulties. Number one being, you’re fightin’ in a basement!”


10 posted on 10/13/2013 1:24:24 PM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: Jonty30

I don’t have TV service but my 13” TV sees a lot of use.


11 posted on 10/13/2013 1:29:39 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Jonty30

Entertainment may be vital. Maybe you won’t have time but maybe you’re down there for a few months waiting for things to calm down.


12 posted on 10/13/2013 1:33:08 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The real question for me is can they put one of these in an area where the water table is about 2 feet down.


13 posted on 10/13/2013 1:35:29 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

L. Ron Hubbard started out as a Science Fiction Writer. As it happens, I used to read SF pulp magazines when I was a teenager, and I remember reading a letter to the editor from L. Ron Hubbard, who had written some stories for them, saying that he was tired of writing SF at half a cent a word, so he was going to do something more profitable—invent a religion.

And he did.


14 posted on 10/13/2013 1:36:02 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will the builders accept EBT card?


15 posted on 10/13/2013 1:41:49 PM PDT by Mark (Obama is more confused than a hungry baby in a topless bar.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This one ain't either.


16 posted on 10/13/2013 1:45:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Antihero101607

Ask the Branch Davidians how a fixed, immobile retreat worked out for them.


17 posted on 10/13/2013 1:46:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

“Fixed fortifications are a monument to man’s stupidity.” General George S. Patton


18 posted on 10/13/2013 1:56:06 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nice.

However it’s kind of stupid to let your identity out, know everyone knows you have it.


19 posted on 10/13/2013 1:56:11 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When they started building walls around Rome, the Roman Empire was done for.


20 posted on 10/13/2013 1:56:54 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: NTHockey

Exactly.


21 posted on 10/13/2013 2:10:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

What’s a ‘Fortified’ Fleetwood Coach run these days?

I appreciate the value of watercraft, alas, some get sick at sea, so they are landlubbers, like it or not.

I should have invested in barricades.. Instead of munis.


22 posted on 10/13/2013 2:14:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

23 posted on 10/13/2013 2:15:44 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: NTHockey

That’s why I’m trying to find mobile, underground housing.

;-)


24 posted on 10/13/2013 2:15:45 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Anything on four wheels basically depends on road travel. Even 4X4s get canalized by canyons and rivers into narrow passes and bridges, which will be gridlocked, or ambushed.

If you can’t do the motion of the ocean, I’d look at houseboats. They can cover the entire SE from TX to MD, and hide out in vast estuarial systems far from cities, highways and roads. If you can figure out an RV, you can figure out a houseboat, and they are dirt cheap in rough cosmetic but functional shape.


25 posted on 10/13/2013 2:18:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: NTHockey

Depends on the technology level and capability of your enemy.


26 posted on 10/13/2013 2:29:25 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Travis McGee

I’ve seen some programs on extreme RV vehicles, pretty rugged, not as likely to have a problem for folks on houseboats,, what with never knowing if global varming may shrink reservoirs and inlets or freeze them out of options as we get hit by a mini-ice age.

Not cheap, either way, maybe just living in the mountains near a stream is the way to go,, ‘til EPA says its a no burn day..

I appreciate the elements of adventures that may happen on land tho too. :-)


27 posted on 10/13/2013 2:30:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Travis McGee

IMO going to sea is an option but not for everyone. First of all you can’t store as much on a boat and are vulnerable to others on the water. Its likely there will be pirates.

Still I live within 10 miles of several marinas. One of my plan B’s is to go find an abandoned boat and take my chances elsewhere.


28 posted on 10/13/2013 2:32:20 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MUDDOG
When they started building walls around Rome, the Roman Empire was done for.

Yep. Another 800 years (counting the republic) and they were gone.

29 posted on 10/13/2013 2:51:50 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Let your 'Yes' mean 'Yes,' and your 'No' mean 'No.' Matthew 5:37)
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To: Cicero

My father always told me that if you wanted to get rich, start a labor union or a new religion.

wise man, my father. He didn’t advocate doing either one.


30 posted on 10/13/2013 2:52:30 PM PDT by chesley
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To: Jeff Chandler
I'm talking about the Aurelian walls (ca. 270 AD). The original walls dated from about 400 BC, but Rome didn't need walls from about 200 BC (after Hannibal) until the crisis in the third century AD, and from 200 BC until then expanded outside the original walls. Rome was renowned for not depending on walls, depending on its army to defend iself.

I believe Gibbon observed that the construction of the Aurelian walls was a sign of decline.

31 posted on 10/13/2013 3:24:18 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Atlas’ website:

http://www.atlassurvivalshelters.com/


32 posted on 10/13/2013 3:38:03 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Atlas’ website:

http://www.atlassurvivalshelters.com/


33 posted on 10/13/2013 3:38:08 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Here's from Gibbon ("Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire") re the construction of the Aurelian walls:

"It was a great but melancholy labour, since the defense of the capital betrayed the decline of the monarchy. The Romans of a more prosperous age, who trusted to the arms of the legions the safety of the frontier camps, were very far from entertaining a suspicion, that it would ever become necessary to fortify the seat of empire against the inroads of the barbarians."

34 posted on 10/13/2013 3:44:29 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: driftdiver

“The real question for me is can they put one of these in an area where the water table is about 2 feet down.”

Sure they can! It comes with the wall-to-wall jacuzzi as standard.

Seriously, since flooding is the most likely hazard with tropical storms, I question the wisdom of seeking refuge in an underground bunker.

My preference would be a “bug-out RV”. Neither of which I can afford. Sigh...


35 posted on 10/13/2013 4:29:12 PM PDT by mesoman7
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To: mesoman7

Unless your about a day ahead of everyone, your going to be stuck in traffic.


36 posted on 10/13/2013 4:47:17 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: mesoman7

Few people could survive very long on the move. The roads will be blocked and an RV is a big target which requires a lot of fuel.

A small team of very fit well trained people could survive on the move. Long term they’ll have trouble finding food and probably eventually be whittled down through illness, injury or death.


37 posted on 10/13/2013 4:52:43 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Zeneta

I agree about the jacuzzi. Those who think when the SHTF that jacuzzis will be any part of that are delusional. The energy waste alone proves that. Thinking there is going to be that kind of luxury time on any sort of a regular basis is folly. The footprint of energy usage and water disposal (assuming jacuzzis have to be dumped and refilled?) is an unnecessary signal to the hordes.

As far as TV, I’m not sure. I have a B600 Zenith TransOceanic radio to use. If there is an EMP over the US that wipes out the grid, no one will be broadcasting, but I’ll be able to receive signals from half the world away and from any amateurs (on another set) that may have hardened their equipment in the US.

Not sure how far digital TV signals will travel, but I guess there may be some broadcasting reception? I don’t know. TV is not a part of my life now and is not a part of my bug-out plan.


38 posted on 10/13/2013 5:05:46 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

All of my two-way gear is stored in grounded metal cases.


39 posted on 10/13/2013 5:13:31 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Several more freak nations might have nukes within five years, and most voters are against doing anything to stop them.


40 posted on 10/13/2013 5:20:38 PM PDT by familyop
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTTT


41 posted on 10/13/2013 5:26:45 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"He acknowledged that when people think about survivalists and survival shelters, they think about folks who 'might be crackpots. I thought there would be some looney tunes that would show up. But no, these are professionals.'"

Upscale bureaucrats and government-linked business folks. Other reports have consistently said the same. Looks like they're conflicted with themselves.

;-D


42 posted on 10/13/2013 5:34:27 PM PDT by familyop
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To: MUDDOG
"When they started building walls around Rome, the Roman Empire was done for."

Heh. Where are the Huns/Mongols, when we need them?

;-D


43 posted on 10/13/2013 5:40:50 PM PDT by familyop
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ya all need to look up SODIS. it shows you how to purify water using only a small plastic bottle and the sun. after two yrs if prepping this is truly the most useful thing i have learned. (if it works). trying it out next weekend.


44 posted on 10/13/2013 5:46:36 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Ping me when you find out, if you will. Those “straws” look expensive.


45 posted on 10/13/2013 5:48:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: familyop
Exactly!

Seriously though, when a gov't becomes oppressive, the citizens don't resist the invaders.

Good example was when the Moslems conquered Egypt in the 600s. The Egyptians were Monophysite Christians and felt oppressed by the Orthodox Eastern Roman Empire, so the Egyptians didn't put up much resistance to the Moslem invasion.

46 posted on 10/13/2013 5:48:52 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

There is the hard core reality of when the SHTF that you clearly understand.

Energy waste is a side show.

Communication will be paramount.

Security will be the first order of business.

Trust, a close second.

Self sufficiency doesn’t reverse the conditions that will have put us in this situation.

But it will be a requirement.

The capture of the airwaves, or pirate broadcasts will provide hope.

Standing your ground in the middle of nowhere is not where the battles will occur.

Shooting looters may seem satisfactory, but shooting government troops is a whole different story.

BTW, that EMP, how long does that last ?


47 posted on 10/13/2013 6:08:33 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Travis McGee

This here piece of culvert liner ......would make a sweet tornado shelter / poker night room ...... ;o)

But I’m with your concept when talking survival.....


48 posted on 10/13/2013 6:23:31 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Antihero101607

You get in a hole, you likely gonna die in that hole.


49 posted on 10/13/2013 6:50:59 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ok but if you dont hear back from me you will now it didnt work.
:)


50 posted on 10/13/2013 6:57:22 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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