Posted on 10/17/2013 9:49:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
I wasnt aware that Maverick, whose pronouncements now carry roughly the same weight with tea partiers as Obamas, is in a position to be guaranteeing anything about how House Republicans might behave. In fact, heres what one GOP congressman said last night after the final conference huddle:
As Republican lawmakers left the closed meeting Wednesday, some were already thinking of the next fight.
Ill vote against it, said Representative John C. Fleming, Republican of Louisiana, referring to the Senate plan. But that will get us into Round 2. See, were going to start this all over again.
If by guarantee McCain means that Boehner would rather chew glass than go through this again, fair enough. But as weve just seen, Boehner doesnt always set the menu within his caucus. Per Tim Huelskamp, there may be another bowl of tasty glass for him on the way:
Others view the calendar as a way to embolden conservatives before those elections. I hope we eventually have a battle and I hope its directed long-term about what the answers are. By then we will have a lot of primary challenges already filed, said Kansas Rep. Tim Huelskamp. There are some folks that might change their opinion if they have a primary challenger. A number of those states will have already been through those primary deadlines that will encourage some folks to have some more backbone.
Theres lots of reasons most House Republicans would want to avoid another shutdown bad polling, caucus rifts, diminishing credibility when the leadership cant win anything major but that was true of this shutdown too and none of those factors stopped it. The point of the shutdown, I always thought, wasnt to exert real leverage at the bargaining table with Obama, who was never, ever going to cave on O-Care, but to show grassroots tea partiers that House Republicans werent afraid to cross this line in the name of fighting the good fight. It was a litmus test for Boehner and the leadership, essentially, to show that they hated ObamaCare enough that theyd close down the government for awhile to protest it. They did, which is why House conservatives arent talking about ousting him even though the negotiations were a total debacle for the GOP. Point being, you never know when a new litmus test might arise and if, per Huelskamp, one arises (or is engineered) in the midst of a hot primary campaign, Boehner might decide that chewing glass is the least painful option available to him.
I can imagine cases too where a shutdown would be fully justified on the merits, whatever the polling might look like. Imagine if Obama, flush from his big win, announces around New Years that he needs another $300 million from Congress to make Healthcare.gov run as smoothly as it should. The new government funding bill expires on January 15th so wed be looking at another shutdown to start 2014 if the two sides cant agree. Should the House pony up that $300 million and double down on Obamas and HHSs gross incompetence in building the exchanges? Of course not. They had three years to plan for this; at the barest minimum, any new funding would have to be conditioned upon delaying the law for a year. Obama would resist that, of course, on the assumption that he could and would win a new battle with Republicans over appropriating the money in the court of public opinion. And so wed end up with Shutdown II. So much for Mavericks guarantee?
Exit question: Am I hallucinating or does John Wacko Birds McCain, who accused a Republican colleague in the House of being a moron on national television less than 24 hours ago, actually warn the GOP at the end here to observe the 11th Commandment?
Cindy for the love of God put this demented troll in a home!
The useful idiots of the Democrat Party. As for John Benedict Arnold McCain for someone who has seen the brutality of communism up close and personal I find it amazing he is such a willing accomplice to it’s promoters in the USA.
PROOF POSITIVE that the old clown, McInsane, is now in the mid stages of DEMENTIA.
The GOP is sorry as hell. The RNC just sent me a third notice to to renew my membership. Went straight to the shredder.
I blame the North Vietnamese for not keeping this Liberal repub in a cage.
Since its clear that the shutdown was an Obama/Reid ploy it is also proof that McCain is fully on board with their agenda.
On June 9, 1776, John Adams wrote from Philadelphia, "Objects of the most stupendous magnitude, and measures in which the lives and liberties of millions yet unborn are intimately interested, are now before us . . . ."
On June 11, a Committee was formed to develop a declaration of their intentions.
On July 4, 1776, a lengthy Declaration of Independence was adopted which changed the world! William Ellery, Rhode Island, later wrote that he stood where he could watch every person sign the document: "I was determined to see how they all looked as they signed what might be their death warrant. I . . . eyed each closely . . . . Undaunted resolution was displayed on every countenance."
What a contrast! Our ancestors, in less than a month, took the kind of courageous action that leaders who love their country take on behalf of liberty for "millions yet unborn," accomplishing in just weeks what no civilization had accomplished before.
Today, feckless pretenders to leadership, living like kings in previous monarchies, personally risking nothing, make excuses for inaction and allow the precious inheritance of freedom to be risked for the sake of political power.
That may be the appropriate occasion to proclaim a National Emergency and the establishment of a Socialist Republic of America, the latter of which will, in my opinion, be proclaimed prior to November 2014.
Exactly. Know your enemy before engaging them in a fight. The Democrats , from the president to Nancy Pelosi, knows the GOP leadership will cave in after a relentless pr assault on them carried out by their willing media allies and their own vicious verbal attacks. That’s why they will always play hardball on them because they know Boehner and McConnell will not push back. The GOP will never learn. The Democrats bully the GOP because they know they can and until our side learns to fight back we’re all screwed.
McCain personally cant stop or start a shutdown but maybe he knows what GOP House leadership is planning till the new congress.
I bet they will pass anything now to avoid another one.
But ya never know.
Yes, McCain is many things: 1) an enemy ace that killed five USN aircraft); 2) collaborated in the Hanoi Hilton with the North Vietnamese; and 3) became a Manchurian Candidate for the Dark Side. McCain is special to the MSM because he’s a “maverick” that whores for them and cuts the political throats of other Senators to further socialist/Marxist causes.
When McCain finally kicks the bucket people will cheer — I guarantee it.
I will simply post, “No Comment.”
GO MELANOMA GO!!!! YOU CAN DO IT, MELANOMA!!! I KNOW YOU CAN! GO MELANOMA GO!!!!
DipWad McNumbNuts has done more damage to his own party than most liberals can imagine....
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