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Orrin Hatch vs. the Heritage Foundation (In case you were in any doubt)
Washington Compost ^ | 10/18/2013 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 10/19/2013 6:29:00 PM PDT by Viennacon

After calling Obamacare a “dog bill” and insisting that some good did come out of the shutdown showdown, Hatch was blunt when asked about the influence of outside conservative groups and the Heritage Foundation in particular.

“Heritage used to be the conservative organization helping Republicans and helping conservatives and helping us to be able to have the best intellectual conservative ideas,” Hatch said. “There’s some real question in the minds of many Republicans now … is Heritage going to go so political that it really doesn’t amount to anything anymore…. Right now I think it’s in danger of losing its clout and its power around Washington, D.C.”

Hatch’s willingness to so publicly bash Heritage — an organization now headed by his one-time colleague Jim DeMint — is evidence of the growing frustrations within the party about the clout that organizations such as Heritage Action, the political arm of the think tank, as well as the Senate Conservatives Fund and the Club for Growth, now wield over Republican members of Congress. (Hatch has some personal experience with those groups, as he was painted by some of them as insufficiently conservative in his 2012 reelection race.) That fight will continue to play itself out in 2014 as the Club and SCF both endorsed a primary challenger to Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) on Wednesday, and many of the most influential conservative outside groups have also been publicly critical of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who faces a primary challenge next year.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: heritagefoundation; jimdemint; jonhuntsman; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; orrinhatch; rino; utah
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To: smoothsailing

Orrin was Teddy’s BF.


21 posted on 10/19/2013 7:06:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Viennacon
Hatch History Lesson

Republican Pat Roberts thought he was chairing a "bipartisan" select committee on Intelligence, until Republican aide Manuel Miranda found a memo by co-chair Jay Rockefeller that detailed how the Democrats were secretly "pullng Republicans along" until they could "pull the trigger" on investigations.

From 2003, Transcript of a memo to the Democrat members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, found on a shared server by Republican aide Manual Miranda:


We have carefully reviewed our options under the rules and believe we have identified the best approach. Our plan is as follows:

1) Pull the majority along as far as we can on issues that may lead to major new disclosures regarding improper or questionable conduct by administration officials. We are having some success in that regard. For example, in addition to the president's State of the Union speech, the chairman has agreed to look at the activities of the Office of the Secretary of Defense as well as Secretary Bolton's office at the State Department. The fact that the chairman supports our investigations into these offices and co-signs our requests for information is helpful and potentially crucial. We don't know what we will find but our prospects for getting the access we seek is far greater when we have the backing of the majority. (Note: we can verbally mention some of the intriguing leads we are pursuing.)

2) Assiduously prepare Democratic "additional views" to attach to any interim or final reports the committee may release. Committee rules provide this opportunity and we intend to take full advantage of it. In that regard, we have already compiled all the public statements on Iraq made by senior administration officials. We will identify the most exaggerated claims and contrast them with the intelligence estimates that have since been declassified. Our additional views will also, among other things, castigate the majority for seeking to limit the scope of the inquiry. The Democrats will then be in a strong position to reopen the question of establishing an independent commission (i.e. the Corzine amendment).

3) Prepare to launch an independent investigation when it becomes clear we have exhausted the opportunity to usefully collaborate with the majority. We can pull the trigger on an independent investigation at any time-- but we can only do so once. The best time to do so will probably be next year either:

A) After we have already released our additional views on an interim report -- thereby providing as many as three opportunities to make our case to the public: 1) additional views on the interim report; 2) announcement of our independent investigation; and 3) additional views on the final investigation; or

B) Once we identify solid leads the majority does not want to pursue. We could attract more coverage and have greater credibility in that context than one in which we simply launch an independent investigation based on principled but vague notions regarding the "use" of intelligence.

In the meantime, even without a specifically authorized independent investigation, we continue to act independently when we encounter foot-dragging on the part of the majority. For example, the FBI Niger investigation was done solely at the request of the vice chairman; we have independently submitted written questions to DoD; and we are preparing further independent requests for information.

Summary

Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq. Yet, we have an important role to play in the revealing the misleading -- if not flagrantly dishonest methods and motives -- of the senior administration officials who made the case for a unilateral, preemptive war. The approach outline above seems to offer the best prospect for exposing the administration's dubious motives and methods.


Once this memo was discovered, the MSM circled the wagons around Jay Rockefeller, who was being accused of manipulating the Intelligence Committee for partisan purposes.

Orrin Hatch, who fell back on his habit of capitulating under pressure when given a strong hand, supported the firing of Miranda after Democrats claimed that Miranda had "hacked" into the computer to find the memo, instead of fighting the Democrat duplicity that the memo suggested.

The truth is that it was an open server, available to all committee members. The Democrats on the committee erroneously thought that it was a secure server.

Memogate timeline.

-PJ

22 posted on 10/19/2013 7:11:10 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Viennacon

hatch is the one who’s changed, not heritage.

his i ability to know this and blame heritage is classic liberalism.


23 posted on 10/19/2013 7:57:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Viennacon

Hatch, just another Collaborator!


24 posted on 10/19/2013 8:09:18 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Political Junkie Too

bump

RINO’s are Democrats

It is time people understood that


25 posted on 10/19/2013 8:21:17 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Viennacon

He can always write another love song for Ted Kennedy


26 posted on 10/19/2013 8:32:28 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: Viennacon

He can always write another love song for Ted Kennedy
(”Souls Along the Way”)


27 posted on 10/19/2013 8:42:19 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: svcw
Look who Mormons support---Mormons! Big surprise!

Both Hatch and Romney are Mormons.

vaudine

28 posted on 10/19/2013 9:26:40 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: smoothsailing

Let’s send Orrin to the Booby Hatch, and that ain’t his cousin Billy Bob or Downthe.


29 posted on 10/19/2013 11:51:40 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: vaudine
Both Hatch and Romney are Mormons.

And Reid.

30 posted on 10/20/2013 5:00:18 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the Libs say we are.)
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To: svcw
“Look at who mormons support (in general) not a conservative in the bunch.”

Mike Lee is a Mormon... and IIRC Clinton finished third twice in Utah.

31 posted on 10/20/2013 10:27:12 AM PDT by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Moynihan)
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