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Orrin Hatch vs. the Heritage Foundation (In case you were in any doubt)
Washington Compost ^ | 10/18/2013 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 10/19/2013 6:29:00 PM PDT by Viennacon

After calling Obamacare a “dog bill” and insisting that some good did come out of the shutdown showdown, Hatch was blunt when asked about the influence of outside conservative groups and the Heritage Foundation in particular.

“Heritage used to be the conservative organization helping Republicans and helping conservatives and helping us to be able to have the best intellectual conservative ideas,” Hatch said. “There’s some real question in the minds of many Republicans now … is Heritage going to go so political that it really doesn’t amount to anything anymore…. Right now I think it’s in danger of losing its clout and its power around Washington, D.C.”

Hatch’s willingness to so publicly bash Heritage — an organization now headed by his one-time colleague Jim DeMint — is evidence of the growing frustrations within the party about the clout that organizations such as Heritage Action, the political arm of the think tank, as well as the Senate Conservatives Fund and the Club for Growth, now wield over Republican members of Congress. (Hatch has some personal experience with those groups, as he was painted by some of them as insufficiently conservative in his 2012 reelection race.) That fight will continue to play itself out in 2014 as the Club and SCF both endorsed a primary challenger to Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) on Wednesday, and many of the most influential conservative outside groups have also been publicly critical of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who faces a primary challenge next year.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: heritagefoundation; jimdemint; jonhuntsman; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; orrinhatch; rino; utah
In case you were still in any doubt about Hatch.

Quite the contrast to the giant that is Mike Lee. Hatch was once reasonably reliable. Now he's more RINO than Mike Enzi of Wyoming. He's thrown his lot with the establishment. Not only did he give anti-free speech protections for homosexuals his stamp of approval, he also is an amnesty advocate. Oh, and in case you were wondering where Hatch was during the Obamacare shutdown... he abstained like a coward, probably playing connect four with Jeff Flake.

It's unfortunate for us that this loser is retiring before 2018, just after he's really screwed us over no doubt. Good riddance to Boring Hatch.


1 posted on 10/19/2013 6:29:01 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Way past time to put that old fool out to pasture.

FUOH!


2 posted on 10/19/2013 6:34:03 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Yep.


3 posted on 10/19/2013 6:36:29 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Viennacon
Sarah saved Orville in the last go-around.

Why?

4 posted on 10/19/2013 6:38:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Viennacon
"...Orrin Hatch vs. the Heritage Foundation..."

Boy, talk about coming to a match of wits unarmed.

5 posted on 10/19/2013 6:38:42 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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6 posted on 10/19/2013 6:38:44 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Viennacon
Sen Bennett, did you warn Orrin the Tea Party plays for keeps?
7 posted on 10/19/2013 6:39:43 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So did Mark Levin, who said he deeply regretted it later. Hatch played a clever game, making people think he was Utah’s Jim Inhofe. Total joke.


8 posted on 10/19/2013 6:41:48 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Heritage didn’t leave Conservatism...RINO’s like Hatch, McShame, 2BDam$McConnell, Linda, Cornpone, etc left Conservatism.


9 posted on 10/19/2013 6:43:07 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: smoothsailing

Also good to remember Hatch funded Dick Lugar and Bob Corker. The Cork! He actually funded that SOB.


10 posted on 10/19/2013 6:43:53 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Jane Long

I don’t think McShame was ever a conservative, so he never left anything. He’s just been the same buffoonish clown since day 1.


11 posted on 10/19/2013 6:45:26 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Birds of a feather.


12 posted on 10/19/2013 6:46:49 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Viennacon
They just play Conservative in campaign season.

Corny's doing that now, in Texas...running ads about how dang Conservative he is....NOT.

13 posted on 10/19/2013 6:50:42 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Wasn’t Hatch’s opponent a big Romney-ite? At the time, I thought it seemed an open question as to how much better he’d be than Hatch. Usually better to ditch the incumbant in these scenarios, but you never really know for sure. The new guy could have been another worthless Jeff Flake RINO.


14 posted on 10/19/2013 6:52:53 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Viennacon

Apparently, the majority of people in Utah are morons because they continue to send this RINO POS to represent their moron selves to the US Senate.


15 posted on 10/19/2013 6:52:55 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: smoothsailing

People in Salt Lake City think he is a SAINT!


16 posted on 10/19/2013 6:54:36 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: sergeantdave

Look at who mormons support (in general) not a conservative in the bunch.


17 posted on 10/19/2013 6:54:38 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' obama's America)
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To: Viennacon

Time to put Orrin and Juan out on the ice flow. :-)


18 posted on 10/19/2013 6:55:26 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: greene66
But it's Orville. He's a known quantity. Always was. He changed for fifteen minutes, and they bought it.
19 posted on 10/19/2013 6:55:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Viennacon
Hatch is not disagreeing in this article with Heritage's policies, just their increased politicization.

If Heritage believes that things are so bad that they can no longer afford to stay on the sidelines issuing policy statements, but must instead support specific candidates, then things are truly going downhill fast.

Is AEI endorsing specific candidates?

20 posted on 10/19/2013 7:04:57 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: smoothsailing

Orrin was Teddy’s BF.


21 posted on 10/19/2013 7:06:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Viennacon
Hatch History Lesson

Republican Pat Roberts thought he was chairing a "bipartisan" select committee on Intelligence, until Republican aide Manuel Miranda found a memo by co-chair Jay Rockefeller that detailed how the Democrats were secretly "pullng Republicans along" until they could "pull the trigger" on investigations.

From 2003, Transcript of a memo to the Democrat members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, found on a shared server by Republican aide Manual Miranda:


We have carefully reviewed our options under the rules and believe we have identified the best approach. Our plan is as follows:

1) Pull the majority along as far as we can on issues that may lead to major new disclosures regarding improper or questionable conduct by administration officials. We are having some success in that regard. For example, in addition to the president's State of the Union speech, the chairman has agreed to look at the activities of the Office of the Secretary of Defense as well as Secretary Bolton's office at the State Department. The fact that the chairman supports our investigations into these offices and co-signs our requests for information is helpful and potentially crucial. We don't know what we will find but our prospects for getting the access we seek is far greater when we have the backing of the majority. (Note: we can verbally mention some of the intriguing leads we are pursuing.)

2) Assiduously prepare Democratic "additional views" to attach to any interim or final reports the committee may release. Committee rules provide this opportunity and we intend to take full advantage of it. In that regard, we have already compiled all the public statements on Iraq made by senior administration officials. We will identify the most exaggerated claims and contrast them with the intelligence estimates that have since been declassified. Our additional views will also, among other things, castigate the majority for seeking to limit the scope of the inquiry. The Democrats will then be in a strong position to reopen the question of establishing an independent commission (i.e. the Corzine amendment).

3) Prepare to launch an independent investigation when it becomes clear we have exhausted the opportunity to usefully collaborate with the majority. We can pull the trigger on an independent investigation at any time-- but we can only do so once. The best time to do so will probably be next year either:

A) After we have already released our additional views on an interim report -- thereby providing as many as three opportunities to make our case to the public: 1) additional views on the interim report; 2) announcement of our independent investigation; and 3) additional views on the final investigation; or

B) Once we identify solid leads the majority does not want to pursue. We could attract more coverage and have greater credibility in that context than one in which we simply launch an independent investigation based on principled but vague notions regarding the "use" of intelligence.

In the meantime, even without a specifically authorized independent investigation, we continue to act independently when we encounter foot-dragging on the part of the majority. For example, the FBI Niger investigation was done solely at the request of the vice chairman; we have independently submitted written questions to DoD; and we are preparing further independent requests for information.

Summary

Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq. Yet, we have an important role to play in the revealing the misleading -- if not flagrantly dishonest methods and motives -- of the senior administration officials who made the case for a unilateral, preemptive war. The approach outline above seems to offer the best prospect for exposing the administration's dubious motives and methods.


Once this memo was discovered, the MSM circled the wagons around Jay Rockefeller, who was being accused of manipulating the Intelligence Committee for partisan purposes.

Orrin Hatch, who fell back on his habit of capitulating under pressure when given a strong hand, supported the firing of Miranda after Democrats claimed that Miranda had "hacked" into the computer to find the memo, instead of fighting the Democrat duplicity that the memo suggested.

The truth is that it was an open server, available to all committee members. The Democrats on the committee erroneously thought that it was a secure server.

Memogate timeline.

-PJ

22 posted on 10/19/2013 7:11:10 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Viennacon

hatch is the one who’s changed, not heritage.

his i ability to know this and blame heritage is classic liberalism.


23 posted on 10/19/2013 7:57:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Viennacon

Hatch, just another Collaborator!


24 posted on 10/19/2013 8:09:18 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Political Junkie Too

bump

RINO’s are Democrats

It is time people understood that


25 posted on 10/19/2013 8:21:17 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Viennacon

He can always write another love song for Ted Kennedy


26 posted on 10/19/2013 8:32:28 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: Viennacon

He can always write another love song for Ted Kennedy
(”Souls Along the Way”)


27 posted on 10/19/2013 8:42:19 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: svcw
Look who Mormons support---Mormons! Big surprise!

Both Hatch and Romney are Mormons.

vaudine

28 posted on 10/19/2013 9:26:40 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: smoothsailing

Let’s send Orrin to the Booby Hatch, and that ain’t his cousin Billy Bob or Downthe.


29 posted on 10/19/2013 11:51:40 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: vaudine
Both Hatch and Romney are Mormons.

And Reid.

30 posted on 10/20/2013 5:00:18 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the Libs say we are.)
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To: svcw
“Look at who mormons support (in general) not a conservative in the bunch.”

Mike Lee is a Mormon... and IIRC Clinton finished third twice in Utah.

31 posted on 10/20/2013 10:27:12 AM PDT by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Moynihan)
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