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State police unveil ‘field guide’ on NY SAFE Act for troopers
Watertown Daily Times ^ | October 11, 2013 | TED BOOKER

Posted on 10/21/2013 7:48:32 PM PDT by neverdem

CANTON - A field guide for troopers released last month by the New York State Police answers looming questions about the NY SAFE Act.

The 20-page document sheds light, for instance, on how police should enforce the that reduces the number of bullets allowed in a magazine from 10 to seven in most cases. It states that troopers must have probable cause to suspect criminal activity before checking whether a magazine contains more than the legal number of rounds. Penalties for violations are outlined by the guide, which can be viewed at http://wdt.me/ENeqZq.

The Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act, approved quickly by the state Legislature in January, resulted in widespread confusion among sportsman’s associations and business owners. Gun clubs that hold shooting competitions, such as the Sackets Harbor Vigilantes, were puzzled over whether magazine restrictions would affect them and weren’t satisfied with explanations from the governor’s office. Gun sellers worried about how lengthy background checks and toughened restrictions might deter sales; panicked hunters and sportsmen stocked up on ammunition and bought rifles the week after the legislation was passed.

Police officers also have been confused about facets of the law, the guide notes: “As with many large legislative initiatives, the SAFE Act has raised questions from members of the field relating to the scope of the Act and its effect on those police officers who will have the responsibility to enforce the various provisions.”

A section of the guide details how police should enforce the seven-bullet rule. Though a person may possess magazines with a capacity of 10 rounds, the law prohibits having more than seven rounds loaded in any particular magazine. State penal law says it is unlawful for a person to “knowingly possess” a magazine with more than seven rounds.

Exemptions are authorized for magazines containing eight, nine or 10 rounds at firing ranges for collegiate, Olympic and/or other target-shooting competitions approved by the NRA, and organized matches sanctioned by the International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association. Active-duty police offers also are exempt.

The guide informs troopers they must have probable cause of criminal activity to inspect magazines: “Absent some indication of criminal activity, there is no right to inspect the contents of a magazine to ensure that it meets the requirements under the SAFE Act. ... The mere existence of a magazine, which may or may not be legal, does not provide probable cause to believe that any law is being broken.”

Troopers may inspect magazines only if owners are unable to provide a permit for a weapon, according to the guide. If a permit is not produced by an owner who is questioned, police are authorized to seize a firearm and inspect its contents to account for the number of rounds, the manual states.

The law also expanded requirements for background checks for private sales of firearms, which were previously limited to commercial weapon sales. Before any private sales are made, a background check on the purchaser must be conducted by a certified dealer; dealers may charge up to $10 for facilitating such transactions.

Exemptions to background checks are allowed under the law for those who meet the criteria of immediate family members: spouses, domestic partners, children and stepchildren. Police officers are not exempt from background check requirements.

Starting Jan. 1, the law requires all pistol permits to be renewed every five years. That free program will start in early 2014 on a staggered basis. Those who fail to recertify permits will have licenses revoked and will be required to surrender firearms.

“In such a case, the person is required to surrender his or her license to the appropriate licensing official and any and all firearms, rifles or shotguns owned or possessed by the person must be surrendered to a law enforcement agency,” the guide states.

The guide includes a summary of new provisions and amendments to criminal laws related to the SAFE Act, along with their effective dates. Most aspects of the law already have taken effect.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; nysafe; secondamendment

1 posted on 10/21/2013 7:48:32 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Bump


2 posted on 10/21/2013 7:50:05 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: neverdem
Communistas do not belong in New York STATE.

20,000 guns in this town here will echo Liberty`s Cry!

3 posted on 10/21/2013 7:52:18 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.)))
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4 posted on 10/21/2013 8:38:20 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


5 posted on 10/21/2013 8:48:27 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem

Step 1) Shoot the dog.


6 posted on 10/21/2013 9:03:20 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: neverdem; Travis McGee

sounds like something in a book I have read


7 posted on 10/21/2013 9:04:23 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: neverdem

“I see you have a semi-auto handgun. That’s enough probable cause for me.”


8 posted on 10/21/2013 9:26:51 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: neverdem

Bump... grimacing...


9 posted on 10/21/2013 9:32:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: neverdem

Wow, talk about a garbage law. This one stinks of due process violations.


10 posted on 10/22/2013 4:29:26 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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11 posted on 10/22/2013 4:32:49 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: neverdem

In NY, tax slaves are worth 1/4 of a government overlord.

Now and then you hear someone mention that during the slave era in American history, blacks in the South were worth only three-fifths of a full person. Paradoxically, or perhaps counter-intuitively, it was Southern slave owners who wanted to count black slaves as full people, for the purpose of congressional apportionment (while denying them the vote and most basic human rights). Northern abolitionists wanted blacks not to count at all, in order to deny the South congressional seats, and both sides agreed to a compromise of three-fifths. Regardless of how the fraction was arrived at, the idea of an antebellum slave being worth three-fifths of a full person has stuck.

Today in New York, an ordinary citizen is only worth seven-thirtieths of an elite government employee (who is, ironically, still referred to as “a servant of the people”). That is .233 if you do the division. Less than one-quarter; and one-quarter, if your math is rusty, is less than half of three-fifths. How did I arrive at the 7/30 ratio? Because today in New York, the proles are only permitted by their masters to own ammunition magazines with a maximum capacity of seven cartridges. This scant number, while the government elites are guarded by phalanxes of armed bodyguards carrying standard-capacity thirty-round magazines in their own semi-automatic “assault rifles.” Clearly, these elites consider their own lives to be worth four times more than ours.

http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/bracken-seven-and-thirty/


12 posted on 10/22/2013 4:35:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: neverdem

the Watertown Press needs a new editor...or at least somebody who can proofread. Certainly not a communications major.


13 posted on 10/22/2013 8:39:54 AM PDT by eleni121 ("All Along the Watchtower" Book of Isaiah, Chapter 21, verses 5-9)
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