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Air Force Academy may drop God from school's loyalty pledge
Denver Channel 7 ^ | 10-24-2013

Posted on 10/24/2013 7:11:50 AM PDT by markomalley

The U.S. Air Force Academy may drop a religious reference from an oath cadets take to swear allegiance to the school's honor code.

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation has protested the "so help me God" phrase that was added to the end of an oath that has cadets swearing they won't lie, cheat, steal or tolerate those who do.

According to the Colorado Springs Gazette, the religious freedom foundation says tying the honor code to a religious test violates the U.S. Constitution.

The full oath reads:

I, (name), having been appointed an Air Force cadet in the United States Air Force, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: antitheism; atheistsupremacists; bho44; bhodod; civilrights; freedomfromreligion; oath; purge; usaf; usafa; weinstein
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Can't offend the atheists and wiccans at the Academy...
1 posted on 10/24/2013 7:11:50 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

You will have a G-d.

The true G-d, the State, or selfishness.


2 posted on 10/24/2013 7:14:20 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Ted Cruz remains correct.)
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To: markomalley

“Religious freedom foundation”. ROTFL! They should call themselves the commie fag foundation.


3 posted on 10/24/2013 7:14:54 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare should have been tested on politicians before being released to the public!)
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To: markomalley

Just wait to the first big war against an enemy with a modern air force—then God will become part of things again—especially when we lose a few battles, and a flock of planes and pilots. If you think such a war will not happen remember what Socrates, the wisest of the Ancient Greeks, said: “Only the Dead have seen the end of war.”


4 posted on 10/24/2013 7:15:41 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The head of the organization is a fat, basement dwelling loser. Our military is now more of a joke than France’s


5 posted on 10/24/2013 7:16:07 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: markomalley

So, from “God is my Co-Pilot,” “Flying Tigers,” and the poem “High Flight,” we go to Obama-there-is-no-God-but-Allah Drones-R-Us.


6 posted on 10/24/2013 7:16:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: markomalley

Sounds like a plan... what could go wrong? /s


7 posted on 10/24/2013 7:17:33 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: markomalley

A new President can and must reverse this.


8 posted on 10/24/2013 7:17:41 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: markomalley

This is not about the Constitution, there is no separation of God from the Constitution
This is about an oath, everything in the oath (which is by definition swearing in the Name of God) and removing Him.
The oath is meaningless without God, without God there is no oath.


9 posted on 10/24/2013 7:18:25 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' obama's America)
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To: markomalley
I am SO SICK of this crap!

Since when did it become mainstream for the minority to dictate to the majority?

10 posted on 10/24/2013 7:19:46 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: markomalley

In a few years when we have been usurped by this regime and the UN we won’t need a military anyway. We will all be one big happy family with blue helmets protecting us.


11 posted on 10/24/2013 7:20:27 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Gaffer

This isn’t anything new. Our belief in God our Father and his only begotten Son our Lord Jesus Christ is under attack. I never ever thought I would see this happen in our once great country.


12 posted on 10/24/2013 7:23:29 AM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: V V Camp Enari 67-68

It is new. I can’t think of one instance in the history of this Air Force, even before it was formally so, where its flyers haven’t had benefit of command encouragement, acceptance and support in spiritual matters pertaining to their missions and their well-being. Never.


13 posted on 10/24/2013 7:26:27 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: markomalley

No God. No honor!


14 posted on 10/24/2013 7:35:18 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: markomalley
As usual, that little malignant turd, Mikey Weinstein, is on a roll again against his alma mater. How they let him get past his first summer is one of the mysteries of the ages. His squadron training cadre must have been totally asleep.

On the other hand, we "elected" a Muslim Kenyan Communist for President (twice) so people do make mistakes and sometimes they make really BIG ones. Fatal ones.

15 posted on 10/24/2013 7:38:13 AM PDT by Gritty (Progressives see themselves as saints, opponents as Satanists; that justifies anything-D. Horowitz)
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To: markomalley

What a joke


16 posted on 10/24/2013 7:38:48 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Religious Freedom Foundation” like all leftist organizations is probably funded by Soros and likely is 3 people with a fax machine.


17 posted on 10/24/2013 7:39:35 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: zot

and the beat goes on.


18 posted on 10/24/2013 7:40:32 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: markomalley

Taking God out of the military will carry the same results as taking God out of our schools.

Godless schools become anti-American indoctorination centers; Godless military will become hostile to all things American.

Never in a million years would I ever see...


19 posted on 10/24/2013 7:43:06 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Gaffer

You are correct, and I as well as other long time Freepers, are appalled at the current state of affairs in our country. I’m 70 and I’m on my way out, so to speak. I shudder to think of what lies ahead for my children and Grandchildren.


20 posted on 10/24/2013 7:46:29 AM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: markomalley

At Navy it was always an option of “So help me.” or “So help me God.” I think they are just making things up for press now.


21 posted on 10/24/2013 7:47:37 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: markomalley

Mikey is a professional agitator and a disgrace to all Academy graduates everywhere. I am ‘92 from USAFA...this outcome will be predictable. The brass will be told to remove it and they will cower and obey. Federal Law requires the oath and the oath is codefied in law. However, military regulations can make the ‘so help me God’ optional. Of course, what’s a little thing like obeying a law these days to the statists and those kneeling at the alter of political correctness? If USAFA leadership has a backbone they’d just say they are following Federal Law and tell Mikey to stuff it.

The other issue here is the little turd reporter from the CS Indy paper who took the press release granted him/her by the Academy and sent it to Mikey. The CS Indy and that reporter should be banned from all Academy related activities. Communists all...


22 posted on 10/24/2013 7:52:06 AM PDT by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: markomalley

“...they did not wish to retain God in their knowledge....”


23 posted on 10/24/2013 7:55:57 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: markomalley

We had a legit wiccan in our platoon in Basic. He was by far the most screwed up kid there. It was his second time through Basic due to an integrity violation. I was older so the Drill Sgt kind of told me to give him a hand. I tried. I’d be surprised if he’s still alive. It’s basically devil worship. At least what he was doing.


24 posted on 10/24/2013 7:57:34 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: markomalley

“Your invisible friend in the clouds does not exist!”


25 posted on 10/24/2013 7:58:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: markomalley

I always say, “So help me God” when being sworn to an oath, otherwise you have no oath.


26 posted on 10/24/2013 8:11:41 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: svcw

If you separate God from America you dissolve America.


27 posted on 10/24/2013 8:12:35 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Who makes the decision?


28 posted on 10/24/2013 8:15:02 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: markomalley

Might as well drop him rhetorically. He’s already been dropped indeed


29 posted on 10/24/2013 8:16:37 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: usafa92

You’d think someone who went to a military academy would be mature. Not Weinstein I guess.


30 posted on 10/24/2013 8:16:55 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: markomalley

Too bad Mikey Weinstein didn’t exist in another era... in another place and time... like on a landing craft crossing the English Channel en route to the fortified beaches of Normandy. He wouldn’t be quite so ready to cast God aside.


31 posted on 10/24/2013 8:18:38 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: 1010RD
If you separate God from America you dissolve America.

The strategic vision of the left... a dead, destroyed America.

32 posted on 10/24/2013 8:19:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: markomalley

They are right up there with homosexuals who piss me off to no frigging end.


33 posted on 10/24/2013 8:22:20 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: markomalley

CLOSE IT DOWN!

It is now antithetical to our interests as citizens.


34 posted on 10/24/2013 8:23:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Viennacon
Our military is now more of a joke than France’s

You may want to re-think that one, n00b!

35 posted on 10/24/2013 8:24:29 AM PDT by PROCON (Low information voters gave us this nightmare.)
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To: GeronL

It could be replaced with an oath made to Batman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfFbxIHBdjo


36 posted on 10/24/2013 8:25:07 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

rofl


37 posted on 10/24/2013 8:27:38 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: usafa92

The academy grounds, almost all of its structures, most of its memorabilia ... are all religious artifacts of all U.S. air forces histories under God.

The recent years’ presentments of indictments against God, if the U.S. Air Force succumbs, requires that all such artifacts be closed, destroyed, and or removed from the site ... and the same for all government and state museums.

Let it be so - let these puffed up heads of state and military, choose to cut themselves off ... but they cannot have along with their decision, the glory nor the honor of that which they haven’t the guts to attain nor hold.

Thank you for your duty.

My father was a plank owner, and our history with the U.S. air forces and U.S. naval air forces ... goes all the way back to 1906.

I am thankful that my father is not around to see the U.S. air forces and U.S. naval air forces self-destruct.


38 posted on 10/24/2013 8:31:47 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: markomalley
What in hell is happening to the Air Force? This is not the
Air Force I enlisted, in many years ago. Has P. C. taken over their decision making? Or has this administration deliberately destroyed the value system of the military?
39 posted on 10/24/2013 8:53:31 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: markomalley

1963 Communist Goals
The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.

# 13) Do away with loyalty oaths

http://archive.glennbeck.com/hots/printcommunistgoals.htm


40 posted on 10/24/2013 9:06:07 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Whoever we elect as President... if he or she is a Conservative Constitutionalist.


41 posted on 10/24/2013 9:10:23 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: markomalley

Might as well toss out the Declaration of Independence too... /half sarcastically


42 posted on 10/24/2013 9:11:31 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: darkangel82

How many grown men do you know who call themselves “Mikey”?


43 posted on 10/24/2013 10:28:25 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: markomalley

The cited oath is nearly identical to the Officer’s Commissioning Oath, and makes no reference at all to the Honor Code.


44 posted on 10/24/2013 10:33:02 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: markomalley

“The State is My Co-Pilot”.


45 posted on 10/24/2013 10:34:57 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: DuncanWaring

None, but that was the point I’ve made in other threads on here about him.


46 posted on 10/24/2013 10:56:52 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Uncle Miltie

“You will have a G-d.

The true G-d, the State, or selfishness.”

There is a pop song whose lyrics say in part, “You’re gonna serve somebody. It may be the devil or it may be the Lord, but you’re gonna serve somebody”.


47 posted on 10/24/2013 12:08:37 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic

Bob Dylan.


48 posted on 10/24/2013 12:13:22 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (If you like the website, you'll love the healthcare!)
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To: GreyFriar

They probably will make the words “So help me God” optional.


49 posted on 10/24/2013 2:43:53 PM PDT by zot
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To: Gaffer

From “G-d Is My Co Pilot” we went to “Dodd Is My Co-Pirate”.


50 posted on 10/24/2013 3:25:53 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be repeated.)
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