Skip to comments.Air Force Academy may drop God from school's loyalty pledge
Posted on 10/24/2013 7:11:50 AM PDT by markomalley
The U.S. Air Force Academy may drop a religious reference from an oath cadets take to swear allegiance to the school's honor code.
The Military Religious Freedom Foundation has protested the "so help me God" phrase that was added to the end of an oath that has cadets swearing they won't lie, cheat, steal or tolerate those who do.
According to the Colorado Springs Gazette, the religious freedom foundation says tying the honor code to a religious test violates the U.S. Constitution.
The full oath reads:
I, (name), having been appointed an Air Force cadet in the United States Air Force, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
You will have a G-d.
The true G-d, the State, or selfishness.
“Religious freedom foundation”. ROTFL! They should call themselves the commie fag foundation.
Just wait to the first big war against an enemy with a modern air force—then God will become part of things again—especially when we lose a few battles, and a flock of planes and pilots. If you think such a war will not happen remember what Socrates, the wisest of the Ancient Greeks, said: “Only the Dead have seen the end of war.”
The head of the organization is a fat, basement dwelling loser. Our military is now more of a joke than France’s
So, from “God is my Co-Pilot,” “Flying Tigers,” and the poem “High Flight,” we go to Obama-there-is-no-God-but-Allah Drones-R-Us.
Sounds like a plan... what could go wrong? /s
A new President can and must reverse this.
This is not about the Constitution, there is no separation of God from the Constitution
This is about an oath, everything in the oath (which is by definition swearing in the Name of God) and removing Him.
The oath is meaningless without God, without God there is no oath.
Since when did it become mainstream for the minority to dictate to the majority?
In a few years when we have been usurped by this regime and the UN we won’t need a military anyway. We will all be one big happy family with blue helmets protecting us.
This isn’t anything new. Our belief in God our Father and his only begotten Son our Lord Jesus Christ is under attack. I never ever thought I would see this happen in our once great country.
It is new. I can’t think of one instance in the history of this Air Force, even before it was formally so, where its flyers haven’t had benefit of command encouragement, acceptance and support in spiritual matters pertaining to their missions and their well-being. Never.
No God. No honor!
On the other hand, we "elected" a Muslim Kenyan Communist for President (twice) so people do make mistakes and sometimes they make really BIG ones. Fatal ones.
What a joke
“Religious Freedom Foundation” like all leftist organizations is probably funded by Soros and likely is 3 people with a fax machine.
and the beat goes on.
Taking God out of the military will carry the same results as taking God out of our schools.
Godless schools become anti-American indoctorination centers; Godless military will become hostile to all things American.
Never in a million years would I ever see...
You are correct, and I as well as other long time Freepers, are appalled at the current state of affairs in our country. I’m 70 and I’m on my way out, so to speak. I shudder to think of what lies ahead for my children and Grandchildren.
At Navy it was always an option of “So help me.” or “So help me God.” I think they are just making things up for press now.
Mikey is a professional agitator and a disgrace to all Academy graduates everywhere. I am ‘92 from USAFA...this outcome will be predictable. The brass will be told to remove it and they will cower and obey. Federal Law requires the oath and the oath is codefied in law. However, military regulations can make the ‘so help me God’ optional. Of course, what’s a little thing like obeying a law these days to the statists and those kneeling at the alter of political correctness? If USAFA leadership has a backbone they’d just say they are following Federal Law and tell Mikey to stuff it.
The other issue here is the little turd reporter from the CS Indy paper who took the press release granted him/her by the Academy and sent it to Mikey. The CS Indy and that reporter should be banned from all Academy related activities. Communists all...
“...they did not wish to retain God in their knowledge....”
We had a legit wiccan in our platoon in Basic. He was by far the most screwed up kid there. It was his second time through Basic due to an integrity violation. I was older so the Drill Sgt kind of told me to give him a hand. I tried. I’d be surprised if he’s still alive. It’s basically devil worship. At least what he was doing.
“Your invisible friend in the clouds does not exist!”
I always say, “So help me God” when being sworn to an oath, otherwise you have no oath.
If you separate God from America you dissolve America.
Who makes the decision?
Might as well drop him rhetorically. He’s already been dropped indeed
You’d think someone who went to a military academy would be mature. Not Weinstein I guess.
Too bad Mikey Weinstein didn’t exist in another era... in another place and time... like on a landing craft crossing the English Channel en route to the fortified beaches of Normandy. He wouldn’t be quite so ready to cast God aside.
The strategic vision of the left... a dead, destroyed America.
They are right up there with homosexuals who piss me off to no frigging end.
CLOSE IT DOWN!
It is now antithetical to our interests as citizens.
You may want to re-think that one, n00b!
It could be replaced with an oath made to Batman:
The academy grounds, almost all of its structures, most of its memorabilia ... are all religious artifacts of all U.S. air forces histories under God.
The recent years’ presentments of indictments against God, if the U.S. Air Force succumbs, requires that all such artifacts be closed, destroyed, and or removed from the site ... and the same for all government and state museums.
Let it be so - let these puffed up heads of state and military, choose to cut themselves off ... but they cannot have along with their decision, the glory nor the honor of that which they haven’t the guts to attain nor hold.
Thank you for your duty.
My father was a plank owner, and our history with the U.S. air forces and U.S. naval air forces ... goes all the way back to 1906.
I am thankful that my father is not around to see the U.S. air forces and U.S. naval air forces self-destruct.
1963 Communist Goals
The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.
# 13) Do away with loyalty oaths
Whoever we elect as President... if he or she is a Conservative Constitutionalist.
Might as well toss out the Declaration of Independence too... /half sarcastically
How many grown men do you know who call themselves “Mikey”?
The cited oath is nearly identical to the Officer’s Commissioning Oath, and makes no reference at all to the Honor Code.
“The State is My Co-Pilot”.
None, but that was the point I’ve made in other threads on here about him.
“You will have a G-d.
The true G-d, the State, or selfishness.”
There is a pop song whose lyrics say in part, “You’re gonna serve somebody. It may be the devil or it may be the Lord, but you’re gonna serve somebody”.
They probably will make the words “So help me God” optional.
From “G-d Is My Co Pilot” we went to “Dodd Is My Co-Pirate”.