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1 posted on 10/25/2013 6:42:44 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Holy carp! The LA Times actually got it right. 36 IS more than half the nation's number of states.

Even if you think there are 57 states as does President Spicoli.

2 posted on 10/25/2013 6:45:12 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The general problem is that a guy could be in a state where they got the tax credits and the guy benefits. Then the guy moves to another state, finding himself in a state that didn’t get the credits.

Fairness creeps into the conversation and it’s to say this is acceptable....even for a short period of time. Do they intend to keep this practice in place for the next fifty years?

I just don’t see how it passes the logic test. Even the liberal side of the Supreme Court will ask some stupid questions and be more inclined to note this as a tax credit issue and not a health care issue. Taxes at the federal level....have to be level and fair...you can’t invent some gauged system to reward some taxpayers and not others.


3 posted on 10/25/2013 6:48:39 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Democrats had better accept this “gift horse”. Obamacare is shaping up to be the mother-of-all train wrecks and the Dems are squarely responsible for this mess. It is a political bomb that could damage their party for decades.

If I was a Dem, I’d want to cut my losses as quickly as possible and get beyond Obamacare before things get worse. The lawsuit is a convenient way out.


6 posted on 10/25/2013 6:52:07 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m in the blue part of Ohio, and I know some moderates. Their take on this is:

- We needed health reform, the GOP did nothing, so we got Obamacare. Yeah, it’s a mess, but it’s a start.

- Republicans should quit whining and help fix it.

- This type of lawsuit only costs money, and makes the GOP look worse to these moderates.

These are not my views, but we can’t win elections without moderates.


8 posted on 10/25/2013 6:54:18 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Apparently the LATimes does not understand that our current President, a "constitutional professor", found power in the constitution that no President or the founders knew was in the constitution. This of course is the power to make law. As Obama says, (paraphrasing) I'll let congress do the right thing, and if not, I will act.

So because congress was so dumb as to not have subsidies with state exchanges, Obama simply made new law. How silly that the states do not understand we now have a King.

9 posted on 10/25/2013 6:54:33 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“We have to pass the bill before we can see what’s in it.”


12 posted on 10/25/2013 6:57:09 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; SkyPilot; mazda77; JLAGRAYFOX; freekitty; oswegodeee; ZULU; unkus; ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcqM_1FS6B0

Tea Party ad. Where are the GOP ads????


13 posted on 10/25/2013 6:57:43 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I like your posts, Oldeconomybuyer.

It all depends on how you interpret “an exchange established by the state.”

That’s the exact words of the stupid law. Republicans are reading it at face value. “The State” meaning like, Virginia. Looking at each state as a separate entity.

Democrats are reading it like “the state”, like “the government.” As in “an exchange from the state” is “an exchange by mother government” and therefore the law applies, and they should get their tax credits.

If the Supreme Court (where it ends up) is honest, they will admit that law says what it says to people who can read.

Or they’ll read it like Democrats, and interpret “a state” as “the state”. Like states have no individual standing, and a state line is just a geographical marker. “


23 posted on 10/25/2013 7:08:52 AM PDT by ToastedHead
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Like law matters to these people.

The only way to get rid of this monstrosity will come through the ballot box. Trusting this regime to obey a court order it won’t like is folly.


30 posted on 10/25/2013 7:22:50 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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We need a breakdown for how many people are signing up for private insurance and how many people have signed up for medicade.


31 posted on 10/25/2013 7:22:52 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
But 36 states have decided against opening exchanges for now. Although the law permits the federal government to open exchanges instead, it does not say tax credits may be given to those who buy insurance through a federally run exchange.

Maybe Roberts saw this self inflicted poison pill,

41 posted on 10/25/2013 7:39:35 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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More legal trouble for Affordable Care Act

Looks like Justice Roberts is going to have to do another favor for Obama.

45 posted on 10/25/2013 7:47:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

-——it was never the intent of Congress -——

The intent of the Congress was plainly written in black and white. There was no foot note or reference elsewhere.

The IRS has overstepped it’s enforcement ability.


48 posted on 10/25/2013 7:51:33 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Tax credits are different than subsidies. Doesn’t one have to actually pay taxes in order to take advantage of a rax credit?


53 posted on 10/25/2013 8:11:59 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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Do you know that your health care costs will be adjusted to your AGI?

61 posted on 10/27/2013 12:36:58 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Health Insurance Marketplace by State
70 posted on 10/27/2013 12:57:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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