Posted on 10/28/2013 7:19:34 AM PDT by Paul46360
Hooah!!
Horsecrap. He should run. I expect he will run.
But you do expose your reason for wanting to flog this issue.
/johnny
“It’s too bad the framers did not take an extra paragraph in the Constitution to explain “Natural born citizen”.”
They couldn’t foresee that there would be people retarded enough not to know what the word “natural” meant and would try to distort it to mean things never intended. Cruz is a natural born citizen by all definitions of law.
If a person is a citizen by birth they are a natural born citizen. Instead of that definition, we get all kinds of creepy conspiracy theorists types thinking they are great legal minds and want to claim all kinds of crap the founding fathers did not intend. Hells Bells, if they meant a person would only be considered natural born if any only if two parents were married, present in the US all their lives, with multiple generations of previous citizenships, and the birth was in a US hospital, and, and, and, they would have said so.
Our LAWS say a person has citizenship at birth under certain conditions and Cruz meets those conditions. Any idiot that cannot understand that is an idiot that wants to re-write law. Hopefully they never serve on a jury as they are too stupid to understand plain English.
These same idiots that claim anyone born in another country must be a citizen of that country and only of that country are therefore supporting anchor babies born here in the US and that isn’t even law. The child must meet certain criteria and is not a natural born citizen because the child is not granted US citizenship automatically because they are born here.
These idiots claim if a pregnant woman is visiting another country, even for a day, and goes into labor the child loses their US citizenship. Who are they to say pregnant women must stay in country? Who are they say a child loses it citizenship because mom stepped into another country? A baby that has had 8 months and 30 days of pregnancy in the US has its citizenship destroyed by being a single day in another country when mom gives birth? Mom visits Niagara Falls, goes into labor, nearest hospital is in Canada, oops, baby is without a country because these pinheads think the baby is not a US citizen and Canada does not recognize her as legal to give birth to a Canadian. How retarded is that?
A US citizen working in another country is still a US citizen, and that other country may consider any child she has a US citizen and not recognize the birth or give the child citizenship. What then? A baby without a country, because these pinheads claim the child is not a US citizen either, so the child is without a country. Stupid. Absolutely stupid.
Not a single one of these idiots knows how to read the law. It is written in English and they don’t have the basic civics skills to find it and read it: Title 8 Section 1401. Yet, they couldn’t find it any more than they can find their ass with both hands. That section defines who is and who is not a US citizen at birth, a natural born citizen, yet, they argue as though they know everything. Dunces. Put a pointy hat on them and stand them in the corner.
“The fact that there is “murkiness” and that Cruz for any reason can be tainted by it - that there can even be a conversation about it - is in of itself enough reason for him not to run.”
You liberals ran Obama with massive taint on his record. So, we’ll run our guy and FU if you don’t like it.
“it’s about the law.”
Of which you have never read, so don’t give us that crap.
/johnny
Absolutely. We have a number of liberal trolls here.
I listened to Rush years back and got a lesson about these types. Rush had the goods on them when they would call, claim to be conservative, hold their noses and say something conservative, but then try to sow seeds of FUD, fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Rush calls them “Seminar Callers” as they attend seminars to learn how to call into the Rush show and sow FUD.
We have dozens of them on FR right now.
Nah,you're stuck on your interpretation of the 'law'.
Be not afraid of the Left. They'd be the laughingstock of the nation if they would ever think of going "Birther" on Ted Cruz.
Barry was born in Kenya and I am going to stick with that.
They won't need to. There are enough on the right who are doing that for them.
I refuse to let you stuff something in my mouth that I didn't say. It's pretty dishonest of you to imply that I'm defending attacks on Ted Cruz, when I've said the exact opposite on this thread.
For the record, I'm a Texan who voted for Ted Cruz in the general and the run-off election last year. I couldn't be happier with his service to the people so far.
My position is that freedom includes the right to discuss any subject, no matter how unpalatable. What position one takes on a subject is a different matter, and yes, some opinions are unwanted (and even verboten) on this site.
I've been here a long time, and those who know me, know that I'm fully in accord with FR's mission. I don't agree with the left, and take every opportunity to express that here, and elsewhere.
See my post 75 for further explanation of where I'm coming from.
No they won't, the left is never disparaged by the left....aka MSM.......they have signaled their intent to use this issue, they want to try to seed doubt among the conservative base, making inroads through the birthers. they want to dispirit us any way they can, this is one of the ways.
I like wf's take at post 75, it's the road most of the sane conservative birthers take.
Did Mark Levin go into why Cruz is a natural born citizen and why Obama is not ?
Cruz...yes..Arnold no
Yep Arnold had zero parents that were American citizens!! Besides that he isn’t very smart and a Liberal RINO to boot!!!
Exactly!
I like Windflier's post as well. What burns my chaps is the FR posters who would then accuse wf of 'betrayal', 'treason' and being an 'apostate' of the Constitution for not agreeing with their interpretation of it.
C Edmund said it best when he said the intransigent ones who didn't understand that the framers were most concerned about someone holding the office that was under foreign influence (ideas, and worse), that those that did not understand that fact were niggling (racist?) pharisees. In my mind, and on that basis, the entire democrat party and some of our RINOs are unfit for the office
You people should be asking yourself. Why is it that all the choices you get for president are people who were not born in the US to Two US parents. What are the chances of that? You are all being pawned and you don’t even realize it.
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