Skip to comments.Is Ted Cruz a natural-born citizen eligible to serve as president? [Yes! And I support him! JimRob]
Posted on 10/28/2013 7:19:34 AM PDT by Paul46360
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if obama is, who isn’t
Obama has made the point moot. His father’s Kenyan birth should have disqualified him.
I thought we threw out that rule?!!
Well, now you see what the Left's narrative is: since Obama was born in Hawaii (they say), his parentage was irrelevant to citizenship.
Once again, the law doesn't apply to His Obamaness.
well then i guess debate is not optional here
omgawd! enough about this already! Cruz and Arnold are not in the same position birth-wise... Arnold is not eligible... Ted Cruz is... just as John McCain was/is...
Dear Sarah Helene Duggin,
not so... but this topic is played out... debated to death... beating a dead horse...
Yes. Next question.
Yes, he is. Stop beating this dead horse.
“Natural born citizen” means nothing more and nothing less than citizen via birthright. It does not depend on actual location of birth, merely that you are a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth.
There is no law, case law, or Constitutional language that defines the term otherwise.
Is Barack Hussein Osama a natural-born citizen eligible to serve as president?
Yes, he is.
There is no law, case law, or Constitutional language that defines the word "the" either, but we all know what it means.
It means the same thing as it did when they wrote the Constitution.
EGADS, please not this again.
And no matter how many megs of amateur commentary on Vattel anyone posts, he is remains eligible.
What we really need now is a statutory definition of "natural born citizen". Does the person have to be born in a state? A US territory? How many citizen parents are needed? Is "natural born" a third class of citizen separate from naturalized and at birth, or is it just another wording for citizen at birth? What about people with multiple citizenships? I've heard lots of arguments both ways but no one as shown me a line in either the United States code or a definitive definition from English common law at the time of the Revolution.
Of course he is, NBC is a meaningless term now. FR,the courts have deemed it to be meaningless. And, Obama has a forged BC to back up his status, that is a lot more than Cruz or Arnold have.
SchwarzeneggerWhy do these nimrods keep bringing up that moron. He's naturalized citizen for pete's sake. And Cruz's mother was an American Citizen(1). Case closed.
(1)It's why I don't give a dam where Barry o'Mugabe was *born* his mother was an American citizen, the end.
Yes he is! Arnold was born in Hawaii, and as a child moved to Austria. Once Arnold figures out how to work a printer he'll be happy to show you the proof.
Yes, people born outside the US can be president.
It is about citizenship and Cruz is a US citizen.
Acyually, the “National Constitution Center” seems to be made up of the most remarkable enemies of the US Constitition. It houses the Annenberg Foundation, it calls Obama’s speeches “pivotal” amd the trustees and board are Bill Clinton and GHW Bush. And on ond on.
Standard Dem procedure: invade, infest and take over.
Arny became a citizen, Cruz was a citizen at birth
Does Sarah believe that the Kenyan in the White Hut is Constitutionally qualified to be President?
To many he is not eligible because he is the best candidate.
No, the law that was enacted in the late 1800s states that anyone who has a parent of natural citizenship is eligible.
In Obama’s case it was his mother. Cruz is eligible.
Oh, please. What is your motivation for debating this question in 2013 on FR? There is no worthy purpose for conservatism to debate this question ... added to that fact that it has been done a THOUSAND TIMES already!
If you want to debate about Ted Cruz ... how about Ted Cruz vs. Ricky Santorum, and who has done more harm?
Now, now everyone. Yahoo news is just doing their investigative reporting like they did with Zer0.
It has been settled in the opposite direction from your claim.
All your restatements to the contrary, it’s settled.
It is settled here on FR.
Repeating it ad nauseum is like yelling into a hurricane wind.
DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE.
Why do you like Ted Cruz if you think he is so STUPID - albeit a wildly successful student of the Constitution, attorney, Solicitor General of Texas, clerk for Chief Justice William Rehnquist and arguer of successful cases before the Supreme Court - that YOU know he isn’t eligible but HE knows he is.
To be consistent, you should not say you like him BUT...
He’s either a liar or stupid if one tries to follow your “logic”.
Yet you like him?
That makes your screeds ridiculous.
Do they have a comment section?
And just in case nobody remembers, it was the Democrats who brought up
the Birther issue from the Hillary Camp in 2008 concerning Obama.
So, Don't let your leftist friends forget that.
Oh its optional, sort of like its optional to pee on an electric fence.
Well, if I remember, O’s mother simply wasn’t old enough to satisfy the citizen criterium. So O isn’t a natural born citizen.
No such problem with Cruz.
Not that it matters a whole lot but you may want to review this 1000+ post thread.
CATO Institute: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
A person can be either a) a naturalized citizen or b) a citizen at birth who does not require naturalization. There is no in-between. Cruz is the latter.
This thread link is posted on the forum page; you might have missed it.
No but, I will support him never the less.
He is more American than a good many Americans
Aw, jeez... (you know the rest)
Notice that Yahoo lumps Cruz with Schwartzenegger, who clearly is ineligible.
What is your motivation for debating this question in 2013 on FR?Paul46360
If Obama is considered a citizen, then ANYBODY is considered a citizen. He has basically said anyone who is living in the country is a citizen. So . . . . . . . even Hitler, Stalin, Satan and Obama are American citizens.
Sarah ignores that question.
Finally, the natural born citizenship clause is both an anomaly and an anachronism. The way in which the clause differentiates among United States citizens is contrary to the overall spirit of the Constitution; the risk that foreign nobility will infiltrate our government is long past; and place of birth is a poor surrogate for loyalty to ones homeland in our increasingly mobile society and our ever more interconnected world. The best solution would be to amend the Constitution, as many legislators on both sides of the aisle have proposed over the years. In the absence of an amendment, the clause should be narrowly interpreted.
Sarah Helene Duggin is Professor of Law and Director of the Law and Public Policy Program for the Columbus School of Law at the Catholic University of America. She has authored several academic articles
“His fathers Kenyan birth should have disqualified him.”
And possibly his adoption by an Indonesian citizen residing in Indonesia.