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Obama May Ban Spying on Heads of Allied States
New York Times ^ | October 28, 2013 | MARK LANDLER and DAVID E. SANGER

Posted on 10/28/2013 9:15:51 PM PDT by lbryce

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To: lbryce

Yeah, like enhanced interrogation. Everything is appearance with Obama. He will say it is banned, outlawed but that doesn’t make it so.


21 posted on 10/28/2013 9:35:10 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Guilty as charged. :-) Sorry about the misinterpretation.
Well, at least I get my life-long dream to being called Francis come to fruition.
22 posted on 10/28/2013 9:38:13 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: ChocChipCookie

maybe someone will release the blackberry journals


23 posted on 10/28/2013 9:39:53 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: lbryce
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.


24 posted on 10/28/2013 9:45:02 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: Rembrandt
Hillaryous is intrinsically hilarious.
25 posted on 10/28/2013 9:47:44 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

We still have allies?


26 posted on 10/28/2013 9:51:06 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Rembrandt
Those are his allies, not ours.
27 posted on 10/28/2013 10:08:33 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: lbryce
In a statement on Monday, Ms. Feinstein, chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said, “I do not believe the United States should be collecting phone calls or emails of friendly presidents and prime ministers.”

It's good to see the US continue to lead the way for other nations - while the other governments of the world quaintly continue to spy on each other, our government boldly renounces this outdated 20th century practice and forges ahead with the less costly, more efficient innovation of spying on it's own citizens.

Not only is spying on US citizens easier than spying on foreign heads of state, it also consumes less fuel for foreign trips, thereby making it sexy, sustainable "green" spying, certified by the EPA not to endanger polar bears.
28 posted on 10/28/2013 10:51:05 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: lbryce
My, yes, he "may" ban spying on other members of the international elite or he "may" not, but we must all understand that no such tiny tremor of conscience will be coming our way in that regard. My, no.

Time, I think, to shut the NSA down completely. I am aware of its value as a clearing-house for intelligence. In a sane government it would be that, ethically run, or at least as close to it as feasible. In an ignorant, arrogant, power-hungry and abusive government, it is a fantastically dangerous object. Weigh the value against the abuse. In a sane time, the value obviously would be greater. In an abusive time, the price is too great to pay.

29 posted on 10/28/2013 11:01:04 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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“Obama is surprised by the disclosure of NSA spying, which he learned about only recently.”

that “learned about only recently” phrase is a favorite of the administration.

This prezzy is the best argument ever that government is too big for anyone’s good. He never has the slightest idea what is going on anywhere within his adminstration.


30 posted on 10/28/2013 11:18:01 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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The dick who didn’t a thing.


31 posted on 10/28/2013 11:27:27 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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grumbling....

The dick who didn’t know a thing.


32 posted on 10/28/2013 11:28:06 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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‘In a statement Monday, Feinstein, chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said, “I do not believe the United States should be collecting phone calls or emails of friendly presidents and prime ministers.”...’

She only believes on collecting said information from innocent US citizens...


33 posted on 10/29/2013 4:36:47 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
This prezzy is the best argument ever that government is too big for anyone’s good.

Do you honestly believe Obama didn't know what was going on?

34 posted on 10/29/2013 7:02:02 AM PDT by kabar
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To: lbryce

wink wink, nudge nudge


35 posted on 10/29/2013 9:17:10 AM PDT by steve8714 (Ted Drewes is proof there is a God...and He wants us to be happy.)
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To: lbryce

Arthur Zimmermann sent a telegram to the German Embassy in Mexico City offering Mexico an allegience, as well as California, Arizona, Texas and New Mexico upon successful completion of the war.

Abusing diplomatic priviledge, he sent it (ciphered) through the US using telegraph cables laid and operated by the US, in violation of international war. The British intercepted it, decrypted it, and was able to coach the US on were it was, and what it meant, leading in part to the US declaration of war on Germany in 1917.

Intelligence: It helps us avoid wars, and win wars we can’t avoid, so of course the usual suspects demand that the US alone among all nations must end all intelligence operations.


36 posted on 10/29/2013 3:46:34 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be repeated.)
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To: kabar

All of a sudden the zero protection squad are very very nervous.

Defensive. And defensive is something I’ve never seen them be. Dismissive, 100%. Something’s going on.


37 posted on 10/29/2013 3:54:09 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: lbryce

Why would they believe he would end the spying on them NOW?

He lied before, what makes this time different?

The only statement from him I would accept at face value is “I’m a communist fraud”.


38 posted on 10/29/2013 4:00:12 PM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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