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Do you think it is possible to make planes flying by electric power instead of fuel? Even more, supersonic planes. I don't know how Elon Musk thinks. Either I don't understand him or he thinks too big. But in reality, imagine how much fuel we would save and how clean the environment would be of one day all planes flu by electric or solar power.
1 posted on 11/14/2013 8:45:44 AM PST by Armen Hareyan
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To: Armen Hareyan

“... how clean the environment would be of one day all planes flu by electric or solar power.”

Where is the electricity coming from?


2 posted on 11/14/2013 8:50:54 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Armen Hareyan

The problem with a battery powered plane is the low energy density of batteries. --- not to mention fire... haha.

3 posted on 11/14/2013 8:53:05 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Armen Hareyan

There are hydrogen peroxide and water rocket engines
but nothing electric that I know of yet. If they had
something like that, it would probably be applicable
to ocean vessels too.


4 posted on 11/14/2013 8:54:10 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Armen Hareyan

Put a cattle prod to Elon Musk’s posterior, and you’ll see something moved at supersonic speed by electricity.


5 posted on 11/14/2013 8:54:30 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Armen Hareyan

After his pneumatic tube shoots people from SF to LAX.


7 posted on 11/14/2013 8:57:08 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Armen Hareyan

Is he driving a Tesla? Is he flying on his rocket? Is he using Google incognito?

It’s called gradiosity, imo. There is a lot of it going around in liberal and moderate circles.

Why not fight global hunger? Why not fight global disease?
No, he has other missions.

Some would say he is just part of a new wave of inventors, envelope-edge pushers, risk takers, .. considering his ventures, I would tend to agree that using any of them carries risk.

as for your wish for a cleaner environment, keep dreaming.

Man is a transient on this planet, not its master. not even of its climate.


9 posted on 11/14/2013 8:59:21 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Armen Hareyan
It would have to be really fast so it could get where it is going before the batteries run out...

(;^D)

10 posted on 11/14/2013 8:59:35 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Armen Hareyan
The only way it would be possible is a new source of electrical power.

Something of reasonable weight that produces the power of a small nuclear reactor.


11 posted on 11/14/2013 8:59:46 AM PST by Bobalu (Socialism - trickle up poverty.)
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To: Armen Hareyan
If we weren't shutting down power plants all over the country he might be on to something.
For all these wonderful electrical this-or-that we need electricity to be cheap, plentiful and portable.
We're not going in that direction.

14 posted on 11/14/2013 9:08:47 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Armen Hareyan
Do you think it is possible to make planes flying by electric power instead of fuel?

Absolutely. But economically compared to hydrocarbon based fuel is a different question.

Even more, supersonic planes.

That is a far more complicated proposal to the first and far less likely to economical compared to hydrocarbon based fuel. I think we will see LNG planes somewhat commonly used before we see electric (battery) powered planes in non-subsidized commercial operation.

how much fuel we would save and how clean the environment would be of one day all planes flu by electric

Is that electricity that was first produced by another fuel in a thermal engine driving a steam turbine stored in batteries and converted back to electric power with all the inefficiencies of each stage? Without a significant change in technology, that won't be a fuel savings, just a relocation of the fuel spent, and more of it used.

or solar power

Save fuel, yes. Inefficient and therefore more expensive, also yes.

15 posted on 11/14/2013 9:09:20 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Armen Hareyan

I wonder what would happen if an electric plane were to be struck by lightning.


17 posted on 11/14/2013 9:13:41 AM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: Armen Hareyan

With current technology, NO.
Plus it is an immensely bad idea.
Project Pluto was a better more feasible idea than this.


19 posted on 11/14/2013 9:18:37 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Armen Hareyan

Technology that will evolve from rail guns and magnetic levitation trains would be my guess.


20 posted on 11/14/2013 9:20:47 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Armen Hareyan
Do you think it is possible to make planes flying by electric power instead of fuel?

NO

21 posted on 11/14/2013 9:22:47 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Armen Hareyan

Given the current state of battery technology, it is impossible. Without batteries for power, it would have to be powered by some yet-to-be-invented power source.


22 posted on 11/14/2013 9:28:05 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Armen Hareyan
Popular Mechanics: NASA Jumps at Patent for Plasma-Powered flying saucer. Also, from Scientific American.

I came across an article in a Russian Aerospace mag some years ago, where they were also looking at this concept. I think the article made the additional claim that there were some stealth characteristics to the design.

26 posted on 11/14/2013 9:41:05 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Armen Hareyan
You all are forgetting about the concept of transmitting power (electricity) w/o wires. This would remove the constraints of batteries or a power generation system.

Think of it as an airplane w/o an gas tanks. The benefits of not transporting the weight of an energy reserve would be huge!

Using energy to super heat the moisture of air into thrust or spinning many smaller turbines at high rpm might do it.

My battery RC aircraft outperform the gas planes hands down.

Yes, it is possible...someday!

28 posted on 11/14/2013 9:44:45 AM PST by mr_hammer (A man becomes truly great when he realizes who always walks beside him.)
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To: Armen Hareyan

“Control tower... we have a fire on board”


30 posted on 11/14/2013 10:29:46 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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