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Tennessee Valley Authority closing 8 coal fired power plants
Hot Air ^ | November 17, 2013 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 11/17/2013 9:47:47 PM PST by george76

The Tennessee Valley Authority, a federal corporation which operates energy facilities and other land management operations across multiple states, has announced that they will be closing eight coal fired power plants. They will seek to reduce coal sourced energy to 20% of their total capacity and the plants in question will be closed in Alabama and Kentucky. (The latter plants faced some headwinds as Mitch McConnell fought to stop them from closing, but the TVA overruled him.)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Kentucky; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: climatechangehoax; coal; electricity; epa; gas; globalwarminghoax; necessarilyskyrocket; oil; waroncoal

1 posted on 11/17/2013 9:47:47 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Looks like we will become Venezuela in short order, where the shelves are bare and even electricity is a luxury


2 posted on 11/17/2013 9:49:25 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

It’s the Magic of the Free Market: coal simply can not compete with cheap fracked natural gas.


3 posted on 11/17/2013 10:04:19 PM PST by Psiman (PS I am not a crackpot)
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To: Psiman

It’s the Magic of the Free Market: coal simply can not compete with cheap fracked natural gas.

Or maybe, coal can’t compete with ridiculous regulations from the Dicktators administration which were put in place to destroy the coal industry. Just part of the plan Stan, just part of the plan.


4 posted on 11/17/2013 10:07:07 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Psiman

Not so. Coal is only having problems because it’s unfairly penalized by the EPA, which drives up the cost due to having to comply with overly-zealous regulation not only on the generation plants but on extraction as well. If it were allowed to compete properly, it’d be one of the cheapest energy sources; it’d be even more so if some of the largest deposits weren’t arbitrarily locked away in dubious “national monuments”. There’s enough market pressure out there that “clean coal” would become the norm, if it weren’t so outrageously expensive to implement the technology due to the EPA compliance costs.


5 posted on 11/17/2013 10:09:33 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: george76
Coal is being crushed because scotus ruled that CO2, a naturally occurring trace gas necessary for life, is a pollutant and can be regulated by the EPA giving soetoro the power to do, unconstitutionally, what he couldn't achieve constitutionally.

Does anyone believe that the hated fracking isn't next on the list after the 2014 elections?

6 posted on 11/17/2013 10:27:41 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: george76

more jobs lost in the coal industry just before CHRISTmas and other support jobs as well.

Our economy will not take another 3 years of obama and biden destroying important industries.

bet there is a big fat deal for chinese coal in the works.

Coal Keeps the lights on by Jimmy Rose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qrD9VXFFDk


7 posted on 11/17/2013 10:31:03 PM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: GailA

I’m sure all the networks will do indepth stories on the poor workers losing their jobs like they did for the government shutdown.


8 posted on 11/17/2013 10:40:01 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: Eagles6
Coal is being crushed because scotus ruled that CO2, a naturally occurring trace gas necessary for life, is a pollutant and can be regulated by the EPA giving soetoro the power to do, unconstitutionally, what he couldn't achieve constitutionally.

Bingo! And furthermore, the only "renewables" are solar, wind, & geothermal (did I miss any?). Nuclear is, well, hated by the left since long ago, way before Three Mile Island. Natural gas is plentiful and so is oil (through fracking), but they produce dreaded CO2, and (*cough*) earthquakes!. Dams produce lots of power but the PETA/Sierra Club/other-enviro-wackos want to dismantle them so the snail-darters, etc. can swim where they want.

I'm fine with solar/wind/geothermal but those are niche energy sources -- you can't power a steel factory with such low-yield sources, basic physics! Not to mention they are terribly expensive.

Electric cars are a disaster -- the electricity still comes from traditional sources, the lavish subsidies are costing us billions, and the battery technology isn't there yet.

Remember Obama said under his plan "electricity prices will necessarily skyrocket". Their answer to the energy crisis they're creating will be accelerating the implementation of Agenda 21, concentrating people along rail and bus lines and forcing them to live in high-rises.

Just like Obamacare -- put private insurers out of business with a crisis they created, and put everyone on single payer national health care.

9 posted on 11/17/2013 11:03:27 PM PST by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: george76
Long past time to repeal the TVA.


10 posted on 11/17/2013 11:36:08 PM PST by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: zipper

You get it.


11 posted on 11/17/2013 11:40:21 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: george76

Some of this has been in the works due to the age and inefficiency of some coal fired power plants. But the EPA has been trying to destroy the coal industry for decades (Carol Browner, the marxist, her protege’ marxist Lisa Jackson, and now the “butch” McCathy).

Good news for the people who will need all the power they can get for the coming winter. Snow is scheduled to hit New York and Boston tomorrow after slamming parts of the MidWest.

How do you like your “liberals”? Frozen, I hope, except they have all the money (ever known a poor liberal), while the moderates and conservatives are mainly the working class.

The poor get help with the heating bills (the ones who really need it often don’t because of the welfare cheats).

Looks like the TVA, EPA and Obama are giving out lumps of coal for their Christmas gifts, or it is for Kwanzaa?


12 posted on 11/17/2013 11:46:25 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: george76

The death of coal is not a death but a murder. The miner’s union that backed obama has committed suicide. Our wealth is under our feet and what will replace it? An entire resource put off limits to enrich the rich and further destroy the middle class. But the chinese have coal options on federal lands. Why is that?


13 posted on 11/17/2013 11:54:33 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: MestaMachine
The death of coal is not a death but a murder. The miner’s union that backed obama has committed suicide. Our wealth is under our feet and what will replace it? An entire resource put off limits to enrich the rich and further destroy the middle class.

...It's a LOT worse....

Cutting down electricity production does 3 things...

1. Puts coal miners and a lot of others out of work

2. Increase costs for US industry and consumers alike

3. Sets us up for a big loss in population as the next ice age kicks in ....

the Sun's magnetic field is declining leading to a drop in sunspots.....fits right in with the Alinsky goal of killing off millions of US citizens (those left alive after Obamacare has been in operation)

14 posted on 11/18/2013 12:44:02 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: spokeshave

I have been expecting a colder climate since I noticed that people all over the world were getting rather chunky for seemingly no reason at all. Going to need that extra fat to survive, methinks.


15 posted on 11/18/2013 1:04:12 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: george76

“Mitch McConnell fought to stop them from closing”

One of obamas useful idiots. Even kissing the kings arse didn’t help.


16 posted on 11/18/2013 1:58:27 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: george76

Oh! This is horrible!

How are they going to charge those electric cars and golf carts without power from coal generating plants? Oh, the horror if it all.

Alright, maybe I overlooked the fact that they could use wind and solar power during the day to do that....but only for a small amount of “greenie-weenies” with their precious electric “energy saving” vehicles.

Everyone needs to have a good stock of candles for lighting the house at night and a lot of firewood to heat the home while the green energy production plants close for the day.

/sarc


17 posted on 11/18/2013 4:26:59 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: george76

I spent a very cold winter at Paradise when unit 2 was being constructed

******
And daddy won’t you take me back to Muhlenberg County
Down by the Green River where Paradise lay
Well, I’m sorry my son, but you’re too late in asking
Mister Peabody’s coal train has hauled it away

Then the coal company came with the world’s largest shovel
And they tortured the timber and stripped all the land
Well, they dug for their coal till the land was forsaken
Then they wrote it all down as the progress of man.

And daddy won’t you take me back to Muhlenberg County
Down by the Green River where Paradise lay
Well, I’m sorry my son, but you’re too late in asking
Mister Peabody’s coal train has hauled it away

When I die let my ashes float down the Green River
Let my soul roll on up to the Rochester dam
I’ll be halfway to Heaven with Paradise waiting
Just five miles away from wherever I am.

And daddy won’t you take me back to Muhlenberg County
Down by the Green River where Paradise lay
Well, I’m sorry my son, but you’re too late in asking
Mister Peabody’s coal train has hauled it away


18 posted on 11/18/2013 4:33:43 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: DH

You can forget about firewood.

That’s going to be illegal too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3092367/posts


19 posted on 11/18/2013 4:40:44 AM PST by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: bert

Got a neighbor that worked there on unit 3.

Unreal these green radicals are managing to shut

down these coal-fired plants.

I can see the smoke-stacks of the Gallatin from my

house,three now after the Billion dollar upgrade.

Sierra Club wanted this one closed too.


20 posted on 11/18/2013 5:10:32 AM PST by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Harold Shea; meyer

I think that although the coal fired units are being shut down, they are being replaced by gas fired units. This is already underway.

The John Sevier Steam Plant is now gas.


21 posted on 11/18/2013 5:17:46 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: GeronL

Guys in the mountains will offset the rate increases by burning wood.


22 posted on 11/18/2013 6:14:39 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: MestaMachine

“...people all over the world were getting rather chunky ...”

No worries mate. Michelle O noticed that also, and has that situation well in hand.


23 posted on 11/18/2013 6:21:54 AM PST by moovova
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To: george76

“If somebody wants to build a coal-fired power plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them. Under my plan, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” - Barack HUSSEIN Obama, January 2008


24 posted on 11/18/2013 6:30:32 AM PST by OB1kNOb (If govmt is stockpiling guns, ammo, food, & meds, don't you think it's a good idea to do the same?)
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To: Psiman

It’s not a free market when one type of fuel has artificial burdens placed on it.


25 posted on 11/18/2013 6:31:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Eagles6

The lefties are already going after fracking and regular non fracking using the EPA and local zoning regulations.


26 posted on 11/18/2013 7:05:11 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: MestaMachine

Anything to hurt America


27 posted on 11/18/2013 7:14:02 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Exactly.


28 posted on 11/18/2013 8:03:44 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: george76
"The more curious part of this formula is that demand has dropped in the TVA service area. In specific, they cited a company which enriched uranium for commercial nuclear power plants – consuming huge amounts of electricity in the process – shutting down. But even beyond that one large consumer, the TVA cited a “plateau” in electricity demand over the last four or five years with no projections for an increase in the immediate future. I’d be curious to find out what factors led to that."

I can venture some guesses:


29 posted on 11/19/2013 10:39:57 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Psiman
[It’s the Magic of the Free Market: coal simply can not compete with cheap fracked natural gas.]

Unless you already have an existing coal-fired plant that can't be effectively converted to gas.

30 posted on 11/19/2013 12:47:09 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Brother Brad: not saying anything against your children (who I am sure are wonderful)

but on the market, gas is cheaper than coal.

Sorry, That’s it, we all hat the symps, please don’t hate me.


31 posted on 11/19/2013 10:51:12 PM PST by Psiman (PS I am not a crackpot)
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