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The Obamacare Crisis
The New York Times ^ | November 19, 2013 | Thomas B. Edsall

Posted on 11/19/2013 8:40:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Health care as a necessity comes only after food, shelter and income security. The mismanagement of the website HealthCare.gov and the cancellation of millions of policies pushes an underlying question out into the open: is the federal government capable of managing the provision of a fundamental service through an extraordinarily complex system?

This system requires coordination of over 288 policy options (an average of eight insurers are competing for business in 36 states), each with three or more levels of coverage, while simultaneously calculating beneficiary income, tax credit eligibility, subsidy levels, deductibles, not to mention protecting applicant privacy, insuring web security, and managing a host of other data points.

A malfunction at any one of these junctures could prove fatal.

In enacting the Affordable Care Act, President Obama and his Democratic supporters in Congress took on the task of creating a set of information technologies that has to interconnect with the I.R.S.; the Departments of Labor, Treasury, Veterans Affairs, and Homeland Security; the Social Security Administration; state governments; insurers; employers; hospitals; and practitioners in the private sector...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: democrats; internet; obama; obamacare; rinocare
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A man who has never run a sno-cone stand or a department at Dollar Tree.
1 posted on 11/19/2013 8:40:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Computer calculate and search like no tomorrow if pointed in the right direction.


2 posted on 11/19/2013 8:42:10 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the NYT asks the question can the feds run a complex system?

Can the answer be anything other than “no”?


3 posted on 11/19/2013 8:44:26 PM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NYT just figured out how complicated it would be?


4 posted on 11/19/2013 8:44:49 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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>> is the federal government capable of managing the provision of a fundamental service

This question should have been asked when the spiteful trolls, Obama and Reid, shut down 17% of the govt.


5 posted on 11/19/2013 8:44:51 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

6.5 billion and it doesn’t work! Yep, some would consider that a crises.


6 posted on 11/19/2013 8:45:17 PM PST by doc1019 (Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Buckwheat administration is in it’s death spiral- WOO HOO!


7 posted on 11/19/2013 8:45:50 PM PST by matthew fuller (Americans deserve better than an illegal alien communist from Kenya.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is called Shave Ice in Hawaii. It is called Kerucut salju in Indonesian. It is called Theluji koni in Bantu Swahili.

Regardless, Obama never ran anything but his mouth!


8 posted on 11/19/2013 8:46:09 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At some point, the public will want a new direction. If the GOP is not prepared for that moment, Obama will push a single payer system and win. It’s that simple.


9 posted on 11/19/2013 8:50:46 PM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL. The Slimes won’t permit me to read the article without signing-up.


10 posted on 11/19/2013 8:53:39 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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“is the federal government capable of managing the provision of a fundamental service...”

No you frigging dumb arses. That is like the question is there a difference between men and women. Only a bunch of pompous ignoramuses would have to write that question as if they really were shocked by the findings.

AAAAHHHHHHH!


11 posted on 11/19/2013 8:53:51 PM PST by vg0va3
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To: matthew fuller

Dude, your use of ‘Buckwheat’ weakens the credibility of your argument. It implies that you are a racist and turns people off. Get it? We want to win an argument, not look like ignorant hicks. In short, don’t give your opponents a weapon to hit you over the head with.


12 posted on 11/19/2013 8:53:52 PM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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13 posted on 11/19/2013 8:54:32 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

I’m over 10 for the month also. Pretty much all Obamacare articles.


14 posted on 11/19/2013 8:56:35 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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Next they'll be telling me Thomas B. Edsall is a card carrying member of the Tea Party.
15 posted on 11/19/2013 8:58:04 PM PST by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: doc1019

So they think it is a great program to redistribute wealth. The trouble is the greed middle class doesn’t want to share. Plus the old white folks don’t want to share. They just had to lie to sell it.


16 posted on 11/19/2013 8:58:06 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the New York Slimes is publishing something that questions Obamacare and guvmint solutions in particular, can the end of Obamacare be far behind?


17 posted on 11/19/2013 8:59:14 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Health care as a necessity comes only after food, shelter and income security. ...

(an average of eight insurers are competing for business in 36 states.......”

Deflection: SELF-health care as a necessity......and 8 insurers in NOT competition for 300 million.


18 posted on 11/19/2013 9:01:09 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like the NYT is edging away from their total support of Obama by making it look like they are questioning the ability of the government to handle the job.

The simple fact is that, yes, with appropriate foresight, proper planning, and intelligent execution, the government could run healthcare. They’d do a lousy job of it, worse than what we had before, but they could do it. The only real question is and has been whether they SHOULD.

To which we emphatically say NO.

In this piece, however, the NYT is making the case that Obama is not responsible for the failure because the job was too big for anyone or any organization, and thus he should not be criticized for the current problems.

Horse pucky.


19 posted on 11/19/2013 9:01:35 PM PST by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A month ago the GOPe couldn’t wrestle up 41 votes to slow down this turd.


20 posted on 11/19/2013 9:03:45 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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