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Local Moms Demand Action against guns (NH)
Fosters Daily Democrat ^ | 11/21/2013 | Kimberley Haas

Posted on 11/22/2013 8:07:36 AM PST by Aglooka

PORTSMOUTH — Janet Groat is so passionate about gun sense she said she could spend the whole day talking about it.

The Portsmouth woman recently started a state chapter of Moms Demand Action, a national organization that started Dec. 15, 2012, a day after 20-year-old Adam Lanza fatally shot 20 children and six adult staff members in a mass murder at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

Their mission is to create a culture where laws and business policies reflect common sense and are not just the result of political posturing, Groat said.

Nationally, eight children die from gun violence every day, according to Groat.

“My son is shocked that there are many states where you can be blind and still own a firearm,” Groat said. “Children aren't thinking about constitutional ideology. They are thinking about what makes sense.”

(Excerpt) Read more at fosters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: guncontrol
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1 posted on 11/22/2013 8:07:36 AM PST by Aglooka
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To: Aglooka

” passionate about gun sense”

About what?


2 posted on 11/22/2013 8:09:09 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Aglooka

My Constitution trumps this ******* mouth.


3 posted on 11/22/2013 8:10:44 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Aglooka

How come they never start a group calling for criminals to be disarmed, just law-abiding people?


4 posted on 11/22/2013 8:11:13 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Aglooka

2nd Amendment bump for later.......


5 posted on 11/22/2013 8:12:33 AM PST by indthkr
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To: Aglooka

Her son is a liberal raised moron, just like his mother. The kid will probably grow up to be a fag or a democrat senator.


6 posted on 11/22/2013 8:12:52 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Aglooka

Why doesn’t she start a local chapter of “lock up all the kooks?” It would be much more effective to institutionalize all the crazy people then trying to dis-arm law abiding citizens and rape the constitution.


7 posted on 11/22/2013 8:13:06 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: GeronL

How come women can’t stay in the kitchen. :-)


8 posted on 11/22/2013 8:13:16 AM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: Aglooka

I think Janet needs to be introduced to the Knock-out game. It is easy to think you are safe, until you are not.


9 posted on 11/22/2013 8:13:26 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: Aglooka
Ten bucks says this woman is a loud-mouthed leftist type. You know the type. These woman are opinionated, often times feminist, shrews.
10 posted on 11/22/2013 8:13:30 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Aglooka
so passionate about gun sense she said she could spend the whole day talking about it ...and not say a thing.

I mean, seriously? You would deprive a blind person of the means to protect themselves?
If someone jumps a blind person I would think they'd be the first you'd want to have a sidearm to jam in the attackers body and pull the trigger... several times.

11 posted on 11/22/2013 8:14:54 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: DirtyPigpen

I refuse to be baited.

Wouldn’t be prudent.


12 posted on 11/22/2013 8:16:11 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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13 posted on 11/22/2013 8:16:20 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Aglooka
"so passionate about gun sense "

Gun SENSE?

First time I've heard the term applied the way this airhead and author want it. But it doesn't surprise me, and I bet it will become widespread used by all the anti-2nd Amendment people

Gun sense? NONSENSE.

It is airhead mothers like these that have helped produce a society of defective people who go out and do evil and /or stupid things with what is just a tool.

14 posted on 11/22/2013 8:16:45 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Aglooka

Janet Groat - another leftist who has found meaning to her life with her new soapbox. She no doubt is relishing all the attention she never had and can finally affirm to herself everyday that, yes indeed, she must be a good person because of what she is doing.


15 posted on 11/22/2013 8:17:41 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Aglooka

WTF is “gun sense”?


16 posted on 11/22/2013 8:17:44 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Resolute Conservative

...or both.


17 posted on 11/22/2013 8:18:10 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: DirtyPigpen

My thought is that all these orgs are funded and run by the same people.


18 posted on 11/22/2013 8:18:33 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Aglooka

Frankly, I do not believe this woman’s number of 8 children per day. If she were so confident of it, she would be saying their names one by one. It would take 30 seconds.


19 posted on 11/22/2013 8:19:06 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: GeronL

The reason the gun-control people never confront the law-breakers, is that the criminals are probably carrying guns, and would shoot them when the conversation got too heated or accusatory.

Legislators, on the other hand, are rarely armed, and are always trying to keep up the PR so they may be re-elected.

The rest of us, those who have gone through all the hoops and training in order to be a responsible and legal possessor of firearms, and those who agree with the right to keep and bear arms, are left to seethe on the sidelines, rarely consulted unless we, too, confront the legislators.


20 posted on 11/22/2013 8:19:19 AM PST by alloysteel (The Internet, a most exquisite system by which to confound and muddle any reasonable dialogue.)
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To: Aglooka
Nationally, eight children die from gun violence every day, according to Groat.

And nationally, over 3,000 children are deliberately killed every day in "medical procedures" conducted by "doctors".

21 posted on 11/22/2013 8:19:43 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: WayneS

Having your finger on the trigger when you try to fire off a shot.


22 posted on 11/22/2013 8:19:55 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Aglooka

I hope the Muscular Dystrophy Association sues them for acronym infringement...


23 posted on 11/22/2013 8:20:09 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Resolute Conservative

Aren’t those the same? /s


24 posted on 11/22/2013 8:21:13 AM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: Aglooka
“My son is shocked that there are many states where you can be blind and still own a firearm...

Is he also shocked that there are many states where you can own a firearm at night with the lights out?

25 posted on 11/22/2013 8:21:35 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Aglooka

Another “grass roots” organization with union made, pre-printed signs?


26 posted on 11/22/2013 8:22:10 AM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: Resolute Conservative
"...a fag or a democrat senator." Why the 'or'? Why not an 'and'?

After all, we have a Democrat pResident who is a homosexual, even though he tries to hide it.

In a few more years, homosexuality will be a resume enhancer for democrats nation wide, not just in California and Massachusetts.

27 posted on 11/22/2013 8:23:21 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Aglooka

The Constitution also provides the means of changing and amending it. Though like the uneducated idiots that make up the majority today in what was once America, they know they can just steal what they want.


28 posted on 11/22/2013 8:24:23 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Aglooka

Who do you think she’s call if a bad man with a gun comes after her?

Answer: A good man with a gun.


29 posted on 11/22/2013 8:25:05 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: GeronL

That was a joke. Coming from a father of two smart girls who are capable of anything.

Truth is I really think a lot of these misguided people mean well. They are just ignorant of the consequences should their wish for disarmament come true.


30 posted on 11/22/2013 8:25:12 AM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: Aglooka
"Nationally, eight children die from gun violence every day, according to Groat."

Does the lovely Ms. Groat support abortion? (bet she does) How many children die every day from that caring and compassionate procedure?

31 posted on 11/22/2013 8:27:39 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Gaffer

I thought the term “children” included all those trayvons out there who get killed in drug deals, drive bys and shoot outs with cops.


32 posted on 11/22/2013 8:28:23 AM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: Fresh Wind

Chi-town 3 @ day, Philly 2 @ day, LA 2 @ day, etc, etc, etc
Most in age bracket 16-20, the Shooter, more than likely a brotha!


33 posted on 11/22/2013 8:29:02 AM PST by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: Aglooka

So, what’s their position on abortion as birth control?
Hmmm?


34 posted on 11/22/2013 8:31:58 AM PST by polymuser
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To: Aglooka
“Children aren't thinking about constitutional ideology.

That's part of the problem, but it's as designed.
35 posted on 11/22/2013 8:31:58 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: DirtyPigpen

Well, you’re right in a sense when they want to inflate the numbers, but under that definition her number would be much much higher. 8 children....8 out of 330 million. If it is by accidental gun related death, then she should be able to name them individually. I think they just pulled it out of their ass myself, and they weren’t thinking about the statistical significance of it (2.4242 X 10^-8 %)


36 posted on 11/22/2013 8:32:01 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: PATRIOT1876

“Who do you think she’s call if a bad man with a gun comes after her?”

Probably the local anger management & conflict resolution hotline.

;^)


37 posted on 11/22/2013 8:34:50 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Resolute Conservative
The kid will probably grow up to be a fag or a democrat senator.

That pretty much covers the ENTIRE Senate.

38 posted on 11/22/2013 8:35:13 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: Gaffer
Her definition of "children" is bogus. Here are FBI data on age, race and sex of murder victims for the year 2012. Of interest, 2,848 people under the age of 22 were murdered. That approximates 8 per day. 1,101 people under the age of 18 were murdered; that approximates 3 per day, a much less sensational number. Finally, 892 people under the age of 16 were murdered; this approximates 2 per day.

If you have a different definition of "children" the linked table has data which will help to determine the number of children (by your definition) who were murdered.

39 posted on 11/22/2013 8:35:44 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Gaffer
Frankly, I do not believe this woman’s number of 8 children per day. If she were so confident of it, she would be saying their names one by one. It would take 30 seconds.

They count teenage gang-bangers as "children". In 2010, we had a total of 1277 homicide victims under 18, from all causes. Source: Homicide victims by age, race, and sex. 60% of homicide victims 13 to 16 are black, and 65% of homicide victims 17 to 19 are black, and most of the victims are likely in gangs.

40 posted on 11/22/2013 8:38:46 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: NorthMountain

I agree. However I was only commenting that her numbers show nothing of statistical significance, even at the 8 per day.

Even on a yearly basis the % of population is .19X10^-6%. That is meaningless. More children, even by her definition, succumb to other ills (e.g., cancer) than that.


41 posted on 11/22/2013 8:42:05 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
In typical hoplophobe liberal statistical practices, all "children" from the ages of infant to 26, whether justifiably killed by police or would-be crime victims, or simply victims of an accident are likely included.

Even then, I doubt the numbers, too.

42 posted on 11/22/2013 8:42:31 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Gaffer
In another FBI table, in 2010, total firearms deaths among people under 18 is 632.
43 posted on 11/22/2013 8:43:38 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Aglooka

I wonder how many of these moms would simultaneously fight tooth and nail for the ‘right’ for a woman to poison, dismember, and ultimately murder her own child.

I bet quite a few.


44 posted on 11/22/2013 8:44:13 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I agree. They make up the data they need to use.


45 posted on 11/22/2013 8:44:34 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Aglooka
Groat said. “Children aren't thinking about constitutional ideology. They are thinking about what makes sense.”

Brilliant! Let's let children run the country.

How about we start out with a little trial run...let's have your kid run your household.

46 posted on 11/22/2013 8:44:41 AM PST by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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To: DirtyPigpen
Truth is I really think a lot of these misguided people mean well. They are just ignorant of the consequences should their wish for disarmament come true.

I think there are two kinds of gun-control advocates. One are the useful idiots, who don't really know the facts of the issue, and the others (usually politicians) are power-mad tyrants with genocide in mind (Obama, Feinstein, Schumer, etc.).

47 posted on 11/22/2013 8:45:16 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Gaffer

Well ... you said you didn’t believe it.

In fact, you were right not to believe it. Her definition of “children” goes up to age 22, and therefore includes people legally able to join the military, drive a car, marry without permission, purchase firearms and ammunition, sign contracts, purchase and consume alcoholic beverages ...

IOW, she’s calling adults “children” in order to make a political point.

She’s lying.


48 posted on 11/22/2013 8:46:07 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: DirtyPigpen
How come women can’t stay in the kitchen. :-)

How come women can say things on this level of stupidity, and not be humiliated by it?

49 posted on 11/22/2013 8:46:49 AM PST by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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To: NorthMountain

Wholly agree with that.


50 posted on 11/22/2013 8:47:11 AM PST by Gaffer
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