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Poll: If voters had known they’d lose insurance, Romney would have won
Daily Caller ^ | November 22, 2013 | Alexis Levinson

Posted on 11/25/2013 7:52:35 PM PST by grundle

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To: FlingWingFlyer

Romney was the candidate because HE put Obama in, in
2008, but having his surrogates attack Gov. Palin.

The rat Romney is responsible
BOTH for the pRes_ _ent, and his
RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE, and for gay marriage.


41 posted on 11/25/2013 10:43:04 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: grundle
If.

If people had known...

If people weren't stupid neither 0bama nor Romney would have ever held any public office.

42 posted on 11/25/2013 11:00:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What state does your “aunt” and uncle live in?
If auntie had gonads she could not legally be your aunt anyway...in most states as of yet.. anyway..

:-)


43 posted on 11/25/2013 11:20:24 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: JSteff

Confusion, right on the border with Chaos and Hysteria.


44 posted on 11/25/2013 11:23:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: xzins
Whatever the excuse, if 4 MILLION conservatives had not stayed home and would have voted for the conservative against Dr. O we would not be in this mess.
4 million votes would have given a loss that would have had him seeking solace at the Chicago Turkish (gay) bath with Reggie and some weed.
Incredible picture huh?
45 posted on 11/25/2013 11:25:32 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
EXCELLENT POST! My sentiments exactly. Too many consevatives acted like they were just voting for most popular at a high school dance.

4 million stayed home. Real shame for our republic... will it be here for the next election, or with 1 to 3 SCOTUS appointments, and a senate with no ability to override the rules they just passed, and with as many executive orders as he wants or can get past SCOTUS... will we even have an election as we have known them to be?

Pray for the republic of the founders.
46 posted on 11/25/2013 11:36:50 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Our problem was that "our" candidate came in a close 2nd in the lying department.

And so the bottom line is you are saying what....?
It is better obama is president now?
That make a whole lot of sense /NOT
47 posted on 11/25/2013 11:40:48 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: Moonman62
No, INCORRECT. Even Romney said that worked for a small state was probably not best for the US as a whole and it WOULD be revisited before it was upheld. Go back and look at the debate and pressers before and after the debate.

But if you know you made a bad decision to not vote for Romney and this makes you feel better.. then keep telling it to yourself every night before you sleep and you'll feel fine by morning.

Now what about the 1 to 3 appointments o will get to SCOTUS? Can you say there is NO chance Romney would have put on 1 to 3 leftists? Or there is the chance he might have been swayed not to pack the courts with the liberals?

Then you can NOT sleep well ever, cause that is what is going to happen and I can assure you of that.

The senate was just a for runner of what lies ahead and it is NOT pretty.

Sleep well..
48 posted on 11/25/2013 11:53:42 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL thanks!


49 posted on 11/25/2013 11:54:59 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: JSteff
No, INCORRECT. Even Romney said that worked for a small state was probably not best for the US as a whole and it WOULD be revisited before it was upheld.

Last I read, Romneycare wasn't working in the small state either. Romney was a terrible candidate. Take your complaint to the GOP Elite.

50 posted on 11/26/2013 12:11:43 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: All

And the MSM enabled the lies and have yet to ask Obama a tough question.


51 posted on 11/26/2013 12:33:40 AM PST by Rodney Dangerfield (Q: How do you brainwash a liberal? A: Give them an enema.)
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To: Moonman62

He admitted it wasn’t working in his state and would not be a good transition to the country size scale it would have had to.\
In five different forums he said it was going to be R Pealed and recast to realities of the country.
A bit of the mechanics are discussed here : http://www.mdmbas.com/Blog/files/great-healthcare-debate-how-romney-ryan-and-wyden-will-save-medicare.html

And here Kaiser Obama mouth piece; http://www.mdmbas.com/Blog/files/great-healthcare-debate-how-romney-ryan-and-wyden-will-save-medicare.html

It would have been a delaying and deliberate instead of the rush to throw it untested or enplaned.. a completely different animal.

And these were all available before the election so no excuse

Sleep well


52 posted on 11/26/2013 1:34:42 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: JSteff

Exactly. RomneyCARE stinks.
Romney Marriage stinks.
Romney stinks.
Romney lies.
Romney protected Obama’s lack of documentation.
Romney, and his vile surrogates,
backstab conservatives and their children.

And THAT is why the CHOSEN LOSER was Romney.

Stop blaming anyone other than the GOP and Romney.


53 posted on 11/26/2013 2:55:28 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: JSteff

He ran not just a lousy campaign, but he TRIED to get rid of social, religious conservatives.

He INTENTIONALLY told them to get lost.

They did.

It’s not on them; it’s on him.


54 posted on 11/26/2013 3:23:17 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: JohnBrowdie

> short of BHO getting caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy, ...

Getting caught in bed with a live boy would only have enhanced the support for our First Gay President.


55 posted on 11/26/2013 3:34:10 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Let us not look back at what was and what might have been—let us focus upon what is coming—an election in 2014. Let us do everything we can to make the Democrats PAY! Let us vow to replace every Democrat and every RINO fellow Traveler, with good Conservatives! Let us Vow to work work hard to counter the storm that the Liberal Propagantist MSM will throw at us. Let us do all in our power to win the Senate, and keep the house. Then and only then can we end this nightmare before it comes to bloodshed and violence.


56 posted on 11/26/2013 3:58:30 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: grundle; All

As my father used to say, “Yeah, and if the dog hadn’t a stopped to s***, he’d a caught the rabbit.”

Talking “woulda, coulda, shoulda” is a waste of time.


57 posted on 11/26/2013 6:32:47 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: grundle

Voters thought somebody else might lose insurance, not them.

This makes them worse than ignorant - they’re lowlifes.


58 posted on 11/26/2013 6:35:56 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: JSteff
It is better obama is president now?
That make a whole lot of sense /NOT


Why is it that the default position of those who supported/voted for Mitt Romney is always either implying or explicitly stating that if you didn't vote for Mitt Romney you somehow are supporting Obama?

I can walk and chew bubble-gum at the same time, can you?

I loathe both men for some same reasons and for some different reasons.

Both men are accomplished and serial liars.
Both men support/have supported Progressive Liberal Policy Positions, in fact, if you were listening while Mitt Romney was Governor of Massachusetts, you'd swear he was a kissing-cousin of Obama.

Both men had their own form of Socialized Medicine.

Both men whole-heartedly supported Global Warming.

Both men currently and whole-heartedly support Abortion(Do a search on Romney, Abortion, August 27th, 2012).

Both men support the Gay Agenda(See Romney's support and implementation of Gay Marriage as Governor and his support for Gays in the Military, Gay Adoption, and Gays in the Boy Scouts).

Both men believe or have supported large-scale taxes on anything that moves to fund their big-government plans(Once again, see Romney's record as Governor).

So, all things considered, if Romney had won, we'd be slightly better off, given that he appears to be just a Pro-Business form of Obama.

He certainly is not a limited-government supporter.

He certainly is not a conservative by any stretch of your or my imagination.

He would have allowed or pushed for the implementation of Gay Marriage in America given he is the Father of Gay Marriage in America.

He would have simply tinkered with Obamacare, his latest statement being he would have pushed for 50 state versions of RomneyCare, there by, in his mind, getting by the only true objection against his form of Socialized medicine. His RomneyCare would have still had the individual mandate and would force you to purchase health insurance whether you felt you needed to or not and would have left Health Care in the hands of Big Brother.

He would have supported the Global Warming effort, given his record as Governor, though not as harshly or adamantly as Obama.

He would not have supported conservatives at all, given the the only people he seems to know how to get down and dirty with and really fight against are conservatives. Once again, check his record.

So whine all you want to about my statements, but Romney was and is a Progressive Liberal, and as a conservative, I don't prostitute myself and my principles to support the lessor of two evils anymore.

I've learned my lesson, the GOP-E will never change, they will continue to try and manipulate me and the primary process in order to put their left-leaning pretend Republican on the ballot each and every time.

And, as recent history so clearly show, the GOP-E will do everything in their power, including aiding and abetting the enemy, underfunding the GOP candidate, etc., in order to insure that real conservatives do not come to power.

I won't help them do this anymore, will you?
59 posted on 11/26/2013 7:45:38 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: JSteff; xzins
Whatever the excuse, if 4 MILLION conservatives had not stayed home and would have voted for the conservative against Dr. O we would not be in this mess. 4 million votes would have given a loss that would have had him seeking solace at the Chicago Turkish (gay) bath with Reggie and some weed. Incredible picture huh?

If Romney had actually supported the Pro-Life position instead of supporting the Pro-Choice position, you know, the murdering of babies, he might have better positioned himself to get the votes of the base of the party, the principled conservatives.

If Romney had actually not supported the Gay Agenda, as he did in his campaign, he might have better positioned himself to get the votes of the base of the party, the principled Christian conservatives.

If Romney had actually fought against Obama, the absolute worst Democrat Candidate in decades, instead of running on a platform of I'm not Obama, he might have better positioned himself to get the votes of the base of the party and independents.

If Romney hadn't lied about his positions, especially being Pro-Life as he did on August 27th of 2012 when he came out and stated his position had always been in support of Abortion in the cases of Rape, Incest, Life and HEALTH of the mother AFTER proclaiming he had always been pro-life at CPAC, he would have proven himself more trustworthly and not painted himself with the tag of LIAR so prominently. Once again, he would have positioned himself much better to gain the votes of those conservatives that you are wont to blame for his loss.

In real terms, this was Romney's election to lose. He faced the worst(Easiest to beat by any GOP candidate) Democrat candidate he could face in Barack Obama. It doesn't get any better than running against Barack Obama. Romney chose not to fight, except against conservatives, the base of his party, in an ill-conceived attempt at getting moderates to vote for him. He purposefully took the approach of thumbing conservatives in the eye, in effect telling them that "where-else are you going to go".

If you objectively, and truthfully want to assign blame for the GOP loss at the Presidential level in 2012, you'll have to start and finish with Romney. It's his fault.
60 posted on 11/26/2013 7:54:50 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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