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Pope Francis takes veiled swipe at ‘progressive’ Democrats
The Washington Times ^ | 11-26-13 | Cheryl K. Chumley

Posted on 11/26/2013 11:22:48 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

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1 posted on 11/26/2013 11:22:48 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; NYer; Salvation; narses

Ping


3 posted on 11/26/2013 11:23:52 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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veiled? sounds pretty direct to me.


4 posted on 11/26/2013 11:25:24 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Pope nails one out of the park!


5 posted on 11/26/2013 11:29:32 AM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

God Bless Pope Francis!


6 posted on 11/26/2013 11:32:52 AM PST by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Pope John Paul II asserts in Evangelium Vitae (#62), “No circumstance, no purpose, no law whatsoever can ever make licit an act which is intrinsically illicit, since it is contrary to the Law of God which is written in every human heart, knowable by reason itself, and proclaimed by the Church.”
7 posted on 11/26/2013 11:33:44 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Catholic ping!


8 posted on 11/26/2013 11:57:21 AM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Unfortunately, he also rails against the "tyranny" of markets and unbridled capitalism. Would that be considered a "thinly veiled swipe" at conservative Republicans?
9 posted on 11/26/2013 12:05:11 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. [Ludwig Von Mises])
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Jesus revealed the nature of human dignity.

Abortion (and all that leads up to it, I venture) is against human dignity.

Simple.


10 posted on 11/26/2013 12:08:59 PM PST by stanne
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To: BfloGuy

Considering the well known malfeasance of the leftists in Big Media ... that may very well be a “manufactured swipe” at conservative Republicans.

I think I’ll read what the man wrote; that should be more interesting that what a bunch of mediots wrote about what he wrote.


11 posted on 11/26/2013 12:13:59 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: BfloGuy

No.

Unbridled capitalism is not capitalism. It’s capitalism with no morals.

The Church is not political and it does not operate in sound bites and headlines. It presumes that people will use judgment.

the preceding pope wrote Veritas in Caritas, a letter, Truth in Charity, wherein he explains the Church’s teaching on capitalism - that it is neither inherently good nor evil, but that it depends on moral behavior.

Surely you are not for cheating, lying and or stealing that some out of control business people partake in


12 posted on 11/26/2013 12:14:02 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

Thank you for correcting the misconception that many will be operating under.


13 posted on 11/26/2013 12:19:20 PM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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The Pope nails one out of the park!

Metaphor mix of the week!

14 posted on 11/26/2013 12:20:52 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Amen!

Nor is it "progressive" to "fundamentally transform" the United States of America from a place of individual freedom into one where imperfect persons in government rule over "the People," whose Constitution is "the People's law to restrain those very "transformers."

In fact, that "fundamental transformation" puts the U. S. back into the same or worse "old world" philosophy from which its brave Founders had escaped!

So-called "progressives" have turned upside down the philosophy of America's Declaration of Independence and Constitution, documents whose unique idea was a revolutionary governmental arrangement of Creator over People over Government--a concept which changed the world and resulted in a place where oppressed people from all the world sought refuge and opportunity.

Deliberately, and over decades totaling more than a Century, so-called "progressives," substituting their own arrogance for wisdom, are now turning the great American experiment into a Government over People, substituting themselves for the "Creator," and leaving what the Declaration of Independence called "Divine Providence" and "the Supreme judge of the world" out of the picture entirely.

Now, America can return to the heap of failed civilizations who did the same.

15 posted on 11/26/2013 12:25:30 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: BfloGuy

Unbridled capitalism is a liberal project. Which side are you on — and do you even know?


16 posted on 11/26/2013 12:35:00 PM PST by Romulus
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Maybe the new Pope IS still Catholic.


17 posted on 11/26/2013 12:36:00 PM PST by polymuser
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To: BfloGuy
In response to your question in No. 9, perhaps the words of Solzhenitsyn might amplify the Pope's meaning:

In the course of his research for "Solzhenitsyn: A Soul in Exile" (Harper Collins), Joseph Pearch traveled to Moscow to interview the writer. The excerpt below is from that interview:

Solzhenitsyn: "In different places over the years I have had to prove that socialism, which to many western thinkers is a sort of kingdom of justice, was in fact full of coercion, of bureaucratic greed and corruption and avarice, and consistent within itself that socialism cannot be implemented without the aid of coercion. Communist propaganda would sometimes include statements such as "we include almost all the commandments of the Gospel in our ideology". The difference is that the Gospel asks all this to be achieved through love, through self-limitation, but socialism only uses coercion. This is one point.

"Untouched by the breath of God, unrestricted by human conscience, both capitalism and socialism are repulsive."

Given the beliefs of America's Founders and the freedom of individual enterprise philosophy of their founding documents, the resulting society, in their view, would enjoy "ordered liberty"--not unrestrained by a sense of virtue and morality among the people, as is documented in their writings and speeches.

Just a thought. . . .

18 posted on 11/26/2013 12:37:08 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: BfloGuy

The pope is a fiscal liberal and a social conservative. Same as a blue dog democrat.

Such a mix always results in more socialism.


19 posted on 11/26/2013 12:42:17 PM PST by what's up
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To: Revolting cat!

The Pope hits one out of the woods?


20 posted on 11/26/2013 12:44:01 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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