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The Founders Would Not Be Thankful For These 10 Things
Townhall.com ^ | November 28, 2013 | Sarah Jean Seman

Posted on 11/28/2013 2:52:40 PM PST by Kaslin

The principles America was founded on have paved the way for the freedoms and privileges each citizen is thankful for today. At the heart of conservatism, is the recognition that many of these founding ideals are worth fighting to preserve.

In the words of John Quincy Adams: "Posterity--you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."

So in the spirit of preserving today’s blessings for tomorrow’s Americans, let’s take a look at ten things the Founding Fathers would be fighting against in the 21st century.

1. President Obama’s Power Grabs

“The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.” - Thomas Jefferson

2. Increased Taxation

The apportionment of taxes on the various descriptions of property is an act which seems to require the most exact impartiality; yet there is, perhaps, no legislative act in which greater opportunity and temptation are given to a predominant party to trample on the rules of justice. — James Madison

3. Adult Children

Congratulations, 26-year-olds today can now stay on their parents health insurance and prolong adolescence. By the age of 26, George Washington had already worked as an official surveyor for Virginia, fought in the French and Indian War and climbed to the rank of Colonel.

4. Breakdown of the Family

Marriage is an institution, which may properly be deemed to arise from the law of nature.…It distributes the whole of society into families, and creates a permanent union of interests, and a mutual guardianship of the same. It binds children by indissoluble ties, and adds new securities to the good order of society, by connecting the happiness of the whole family with the good behavior of all. It furnishes additional motives for honest industry and economy in private life, and for a deeper love of the country of our birth. - Joseph Story

5. Foreign Involvement

“It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.” -George Washington

6. Chicago’s Gun Laws

"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them." -George Mason

7. Religious Intolerance

“The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man; and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate. This right is in its nature an unalienable right.” -James Madison

8. Direct Election of Senators

"The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, chosen by the legislature thereof for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote." U.S. Constitution Article I, section 3.

9. The National Debt

“No pecuniary consideration is more urgent than the regular redemption and discharge of the public debt; on none can delay be more injurious, or an economy of the time more valuable.” -George Washington

10. The Federal Reserve

"Paper is poverty...it is only the ghost of money, and not money.” -Thomas Jefferson

Happy Thanksgiving!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 17th; articlev; conservative; foundingfathers; principles; statesrights; thanksgiving
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To: Kaslin

The first on the list would be 1000 babies being aborted every single day.


41 posted on 11/28/2013 11:20:35 PM PST by TomasUSMC
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To: Washi

Roe v. Wade and Obamacare were not based on the Constitution at all. The former invented a “right to privacy” that just doesn’t exist and the latter deemed the power to tax to apply to the act of breathing. The 17th Amendment came about due to significant corruption in the selection of senators by state legislatures.

Maybe an imperfect solution, but it sure as hell wasn’t crammed down anyone’s throats.


42 posted on 11/29/2013 4:16:59 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy

Anti 17 = the need for Einsatzgruppen; these are the idiots waiting for Old Country Buffet to open so they can hurry home to “catch the Lawrence Welk program”.


43 posted on 11/29/2013 4:44:38 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

TN PING:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/28/student-sets-teacher-on-fire_n_4356616.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592


44 posted on 11/29/2013 4:56:16 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You inspired this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is79-5CtPjw


45 posted on 11/29/2013 5:26:00 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

17th Amendment—founders wanted “States”to be represented. The people had “Congress”. The direct election process for senators was pushed by the “socialists”, “progressives”,of the time. Really early “communists”


46 posted on 11/29/2013 5:46:57 AM PST by capt B
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Let’s do away with the “electoral college” system, also. Then we are NO longer a “REPUBLIC”. We become a European “Parliamentary” system, Changing Gov’ts at will. Italy’s had over 100 since WWII


47 posted on 11/29/2013 6:01:28 AM PST by capt B
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To: fieldmarshaldj
#8 proved unworkable

Please provide or point me to the proof.

48 posted on 11/29/2013 6:51:24 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You keep using terms such as “unworkable” and “not working”. Please provide an example or two of that being the case at the time the 17th was ratified. The modern-day situations that you keep citing are quite possibly effects of having ratified it rather than reasons for doing so in the first place.

And, yes, in answer to your earlier question, I’m well aware of the amendment process. The ability to repeal mistakes is the reason that we don’t have Prohibition today. One amendment repealed an earlier mistaken one.


49 posted on 11/29/2013 7:39:45 AM PST by Bob
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To: Kaslin
The founders would have definitely been against our current trade policy and no tariff policy. To a man they would be against the current situation.

The loss of states rights would be appalling.

50 posted on 11/29/2013 7:44:02 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If you can’t see the stupidity of the 17th amendment then God help you. Seek help.


51 posted on 11/29/2013 7:46:09 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: tumblindice

Bob’s wrong. Better to a have few fascist senators than a whole cabal of them.


52 posted on 11/29/2013 7:47:51 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You are not a conservative. It is a NATIONAL legislature. You may live in tyranny, but not everyone lives in a hell hole.


53 posted on 11/29/2013 7:49:21 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Too bad the field marshal wasn’t around to help right the original Constitution. / sarc


54 posted on 11/29/2013 7:51:13 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; All

Does anyone see the irony arguing against the repeal of the 17th amendment on a web site dedicated to a Free Republic?


55 posted on 11/29/2013 7:52:58 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: T-Bird45
Under the original Constitution, they were to represent the states in order to be a source of further balance of power.

Worth repeating a million times in a million places.

56 posted on 11/29/2013 7:53:58 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If I have to choose between the founders and progressives like you, I will pick the founders.


57 posted on 11/29/2013 7:56:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: T-Bird45; fieldmarshaldj

Now we’ve found the nugget of your misperception, that Senators were invented to represent you. Under the original Constitution, they were to represent the states in order to be a source of further balance of power. I’d recommend a read of Mark Levin’s latest book.


ISTR the 17th was pushed by the early progressives and that it was designed to weaken state powers (T-Bird’s “they were to represent the states in order to be a source of further balance of power”) and centralize power at the federal level.

There is a “cluster” of amendments passed in the early 20th century by progressives flexing their muscles. And that has led to where we are now — a strong fedgov that is leading to a Chavez-like elected (wannabe) dictator.


58 posted on 11/29/2013 11:38:29 AM PST by Peet (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Yeah, that was posted somewhere on here recently. Noticed they didn’t name the little pyromaniac thug. If I was that lady, I’d get out of the public school teaching biz tout de suite.


59 posted on 11/29/2013 11:57:14 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

That’s a twisted mind to set someone on fire.

Animal.


60 posted on 11/29/2013 11:58:47 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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