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Family returns home from funeral to find stranger has moved into their house
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 30 November 2013 | DAILY MAIL REPORTER

Posted on 11/30/2013 5:39:46 PM PST by moonshinner_09

A family Ohio were in for a nasty surprised after they returned from a visit out-of-town visit to a dying relative to find someone else had moved into their house. Their outrage has now turned into a court battle, pitting them against a man who says he has the court documents to prove the house is now his. Robert Carr moved into the home that had been occupied for 21 years, changed the locks and emptied the house. Scroll down for video... When the family confronted Carr, he showed them a document he filed with the the County Court. It's called a 'quiet title' and lays claim to the property because Carr says the family abandoned the house and gave up all their rights.

The family members have said they are too afraid to be identified. 'What he's looking for is full title and ownership of the home,' the family's attorney, Alison Warner, said.

Carr expects to pay nothing to keep the home. 'He's in their home. They don't know when he's there. He can be there now,' Warner said. WLWT has uncovered 11 other instances where Carr has filed the same paperwork. Seven of the cases were filed on the same day. 'When you abandon a property and don't want anything to do with it, somebody can come in and take it,'' Carr WLWT. 'I have a team of people who go out and I say make sure the house is empty. If it's empty, change the locks,' Carr said. 'Anybody can do it.' The family from Springfield who don't want to be identified say they feel violated. 'I'm very scared, you know, because I never know if somebody's going to be here,' the homeowner said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: carr; donutwatch; ohio; robertcarr
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To: moonshinner_09
The are white sovereign groups and black sovereign groups, such as the Nawaubians.

Oddly enough, the SPLC does not even mention the Nawaubians, who are larger and more prone to violence.

21 posted on 11/30/2013 6:08:37 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Jess Kitting

Who writes this stuff?

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The perennially ignorant.


22 posted on 11/30/2013 6:08:37 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Petrosius

As I said up above ...

Not that I agree with what has been done here - but in regards to what you say - someone who was smart and slick about it (in taking over the house) would always have two or three people around as witnesses, be armed himself ... and ... if any altercation happened, call the police immediately, who would then arrive, look at the legal paperwork, and say, “It’s a civil matter and you’ll have to fight it out in court.”

If the previous homeowner tried to “do anything physical” about it, without going to court - then he would be subject to being arrested.


23 posted on 11/30/2013 6:09:06 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: moonshinner_09

Why can’t the family file criminal complaints against the guy — breaking & entering, grand theft, forgery, are just a few that come to mind.. and have him arrested.

They can certainly prove the house is theirs — they must have real estate tax receipts, utility bills and so on.


24 posted on 11/30/2013 6:09:45 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: moonshinner_09
A family Ohio were in for a nasty surprised after they returned from a visit out-of-town visit to a dying relative to find someone else had moved into their house.

Was the writer drunk??

25 posted on 11/30/2013 6:10:01 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Innovative

Not if he trashed them


26 posted on 11/30/2013 6:10:13 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Star Traveler
That’s crazy if someone can leave their house of 21 years to see a dying relative and come back to find out that they’ve been kicked out because some stranger says he now owns the house!

Only the 16th Amendment is crazier!

27 posted on 11/30/2013 6:10:39 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Star Traveler

I would take my chances with the jury after I capped his junkie ass.


28 posted on 11/30/2013 6:11:06 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: cableguymn
IDk.. I’d be testing the laws about shooting an invader at this point.

Exactly...force him out at gunpoint and then sue him for theft of the home's contents. Ignore his filings and stick to law enforcement actions and get the best lawyer in town -- AFTER you regain possession of your home.

29 posted on 11/30/2013 6:12:52 PM PST by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: HangnJudge

How long does a family need to be away from home for this to happen? Would a two hour shopping trip run any risk of it??


30 posted on 11/30/2013 6:14:52 PM PST by varmintman
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To: cableguymn

Ditto that!


31 posted on 11/30/2013 6:14:54 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Star Traveler

Where the hell do you live, New York?


32 posted on 11/30/2013 6:15:06 PM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: moonshinner_09

From another article:

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/210345/sovereign-citizen-moves-into-ohio-familys-home-while-theyre-out-of-town-claims-he-owns-the-place/

“Carr has done this with several “abandoned” homes in the area, which has resulted in him having charges of breaking and entering filed against him. However, he “rejects” these charges and sends them back to the police with “rejected” and “offer not accepted” written across the indictments.”

And exactly WHY doesn’t the police just go and ARREST him — now if a criminal “rejects” the charges they don’t get arrested?!


33 posted on 11/30/2013 6:15:27 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Star Traveler

Show the police your deed. Do not do anything physical, do not try to eject the trespassers just refuse to leave and file the criminal complaint.


34 posted on 11/30/2013 6:17:14 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: moonshinner_09

If this happened to me it would turn out to be a very bad day for the squatter.... Very bad indeed.


35 posted on 11/30/2013 6:17:19 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: Chickensoup

They can get copies of receipts — they can probably just printed them off the internet or call the utility companies, etc.


36 posted on 11/30/2013 6:17:31 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

As I said up above, if the guy knew he was “in for a fight” (which he should know in that situation), then he would be prepared with two or three other gunmen in the house, just waiting for an altercation - and then the police would be called while he was “holding out” and firing return shots at you ...

The following is what I said up above ...

Not that I agree with what has been done here - but in regards to what you say - someone who was smart and slick about it (in taking over the house) would always have two or three people around as witnesses, be armed himself ... and ... if any altercation happened, call the police immediately, who would then arrive, look at the legal paperwork, and say, “It’s a civil matter and you’ll have to fight it out in court.”

If the previous homeowner tried to “do anything physical” about it, without going to court - then he would be subject to being arrested.


37 posted on 11/30/2013 6:18:09 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Petrosius

The deed is probably inside the occupied house in many or most case


38 posted on 11/30/2013 6:19:35 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: moonshinner_09

A couple of empty mags with Hornady 230grn JHP would settle the issue.


39 posted on 11/30/2013 6:20:37 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Star Traveler

The house had been foreclosed on by the bank and the people were moving to another state but were still in the house at that time.


40 posted on 11/30/2013 6:21:54 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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