Posted on 11/30/2013 5:39:46 PM PST by moonshinner_09
A family Ohio were in for a nasty surprised after they returned from a visit out-of-town visit to a dying relative to find someone else had moved into their house. Their outrage has now turned into a court battle, pitting them against a man who says he has the court documents to prove the house is now his. Robert Carr moved into the home that had been occupied for 21 years, changed the locks and emptied the house. Scroll down for video... When the family confronted Carr, he showed them a document he filed with the the County Court. It's called a 'quiet title' and lays claim to the property because Carr says the family abandoned the house and gave up all their rights.
The family members have said they are too afraid to be identified. 'What he's looking for is full title and ownership of the home,' the family's attorney, Alison Warner, said.
Carr expects to pay nothing to keep the home. 'He's in their home. They don't know when he's there. He can be there now,' Warner said. WLWT has uncovered 11 other instances where Carr has filed the same paperwork. Seven of the cases were filed on the same day. 'When you abandon a property and don't want anything to do with it, somebody can come in and take it,'' Carr WLWT. 'I have a team of people who go out and I say make sure the house is empty. If it's empty, change the locks,' Carr said. 'Anybody can do it.' The family from Springfield who don't want to be identified say they feel violated. 'I'm very scared, you know, because I never know if somebody's going to be here,' the homeowner said.
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When you have conflicting paperwork, and one is a “recent order” from a court from just a few days ago, the police are going to tell everyone to “fight it out in court”.
There was a reason that the guy moved everything out of the house - so that the returning people couldn’t claim that the things inside belonged to them. All he would have to do is show the recent court paperwork, and then the receipts for the furnishings inside, plus the fact that the utility bills had been changed to him - which you could do in a mere hours on a business day - and the police just aren’t going to do anything about it.
“And exactly WHY doesn’t the police just go and ARREST him — now if a criminal “rejects” the charges they don’t get arrested?!”
Because he’s black.
In Oklahoma ...
You know what my response would be?
I would chortle, clap my hands, and exclaim, “Oh look! Another funeral!”
We’ll ... their goose is cooked then! It will be a court fight between that guy in the house and the mortgage holder then!
He just filed the paperwork, it doesn’t sound like the Court acted upon it yet, so it should have no legal right, until the Court decides, until then the original owners own it — I am just trying to use common sense....
Is this some sort of crazy Ohio law or are there other States that allow this crap.
This guy could count on me sitting outside 24/7, if he ever left his crap would be on the street when he got back.
I’ve been in situations with the police where there is “conflicting information” and each side is making competing claims. They’re just going to tell the people to “go to court”.
Who edits this stuff?
In the old days, when the law actually served the people, you would simply visit the Sheriff, who would ride up on his horse, challenge the squatter, and drag him out by his hair if necessary.
It was probably this way up until the 1970’s (minus the horse) until the liberals started abusing the law and the Great Society and turned everything upside down.
In that case, the police are going to say, as you just did — “Let the court decide.”
But, I see from another post that the original homeowner had already been “foreclosed” upon and they were getting ready to leave anyway.
I think that’s where they are getting the houses - finding houses that have been foreclosed and going into those houses after the people are gone and changing the locks and claiming possession. This time it was foreclosed but had stuff in it so he took the stuff out of the house himself and changed the locks.
Unless you went to a non-reciprocal state, left your firearms in the house, and had the squatter take them. Now, if you go purchase a gun to shoot him without engaging law enforcement, premeditation is easy to prove.
This is what happens when cops are afraid to act because of lawsuits. They punt to the courts.
The 17th, 18th and 19th didn’t get any better.
Last I checked b and e is not a civil matter.
That makes sense and that also creates murky legal waters ...
It makes me wonder if this guy specifically goes after houses where the owners have not paid their taxes properly.
In this case it is shoot, shovel, and shut up.
In Oklahoma, if you get court paperwork, you can break in, take possession and change the locks and move out all the contents.
It looks like he had some kind of court paperwork - even if it is found out, through further legal wrangling, that he cannot keep possession of it.
That’s why I said if the guy was smart, he would be armed and have several there with him who were armed - and they would call the police at the first hint of trouble.
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