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So is affirmative action doing anyone a favor? Under qualified students are let into colleges and universities where they fail and qualified applicants are denied access.
1 posted on 12/06/2013 1:12:02 PM PST by artichokegrower
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California must be full of racists!


2 posted on 12/06/2013 1:14:57 PM PST by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men)
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Once any college kid - of any color - realizes they can make more sitting on the couch these days (reportedly $50K in benfits etc), why spend $150K+ for education? Finance 101.


3 posted on 12/06/2013 1:16:16 PM PST by llevrok (Obama 2008 : "If you vote for me, aaaaaa, you can keep your country")
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Yes, but they have affirmative action to get them a job and lifetime government benefits.


4 posted on 12/06/2013 1:16:43 PM PST by soycd
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No problem. Just lower the bar. Again.


5 posted on 12/06/2013 1:17:09 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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Can’t make a silk purse....


6 posted on 12/06/2013 1:17:37 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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They are being given fake grades in high school just for showing up and then think they are ready for college. Once they get to college they realize they are not even close to prepared and drop out.

This has everything to do with federal funding up public schools being tied to attendance and graduation rates.

Tie federal funding for public schools too... SAT scores, and you would see a fundamental shift in the quality of public school education. Of course then the schools would start kicking out the idiots and criminals in droves, but that is the technique that made US schools #1 in the 1950’s


9 posted on 12/06/2013 1:19:29 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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Its a natural result of a second or 3rd generation being told that its hopeless to try.


10 posted on 12/06/2013 1:21:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Why is this important to the government? What does it matter what the percentage rate of college graduates are among different ethnic groups? If this is important to the government, then they should be equally concerned about the ethnic make up of athletic teams at state supported universities. Does the university’s team look like the student body, or the population of the state?


11 posted on 12/06/2013 1:24:39 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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Most of the blacks have attended inner city schools which are notoriously known to be inferior to schools in the suburbs. By design.

The inner city schools have been the experimentation centers for what used to be called Outcome Based Education, which was actually the breeding ground for Common Core.

Inner city parents are easier to fool than suburbanites parents.

What a wonderful gift the left have given to blacks. Eh?

12 posted on 12/06/2013 1:27:48 PM PST by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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What the hell residents of California need to go to college for? Hell, you live a better life if you don’t speak English and are an illegal immigrant. If you want to really be miserable in CA, try working your a$$ off to make $100K a year. Otherwise, live on the dole. The alternative is to be “wealthy”.

(This is for the folks in big cities, not rural CA)


14 posted on 12/06/2013 1:29:10 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals can afford for things to go well, to work, for folks to be happy. They'd be out of work.)
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Only one thing to do by California standards..

1) lower the level of standards for the teachers..

2) lower the levels for passing tests..

3) lower levels of whats political obscene they are already idiots and will never suspect..

4) next act like you didnt do just three things above..
In Mexifornia black/ brown same thing.. for gods sake dont mention that..


15 posted on 12/06/2013 1:31:56 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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I'm surprised liberal California college faculty members are not giving minorities the “gentleman's” C and passing the problem on to the employers.
17 posted on 12/06/2013 1:33:42 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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California has among the highest per-pupil education spending in the nation. And yet the problem is always “not enough money”.


18 posted on 12/06/2013 1:41:56 PM PST by DesScorp
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They just need to start the remedial classes sooner, say in pre school.

This analogy applies to all not just one racial group: you can put a bowling ball in front of the stereo but when the stereo is turned off, the bowling ball does not make music.

IMO, we have an over blown reliance on “college” attendance. Some people are not cut out for critical thinking. Sorry if that hurts their parents egos but that is how I see it.


19 posted on 12/06/2013 1:42:11 PM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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“a group calling on state lawmakers to get serious about helping African Americans”

This group is stuck on stupid.

There is no government program, and no amount of taxpayer money, that can fix this problem.

The only thing that could at least partially alleviate it is to have intact nuclear black families who make their children study to achieve academically. But if the parents don’t care (or are not even present), everyone but this “group” can figure out state lawmakers can’t do anything about it.


20 posted on 12/06/2013 1:51:18 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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...by a group calling on state lawmakers to get serious about helping African Americans.

Really? How about parents getting serious about their kids while they're in high school? And once they are in college, how about they get serious about their studies? Why is this somebody else's fault, and not their own? Perhaps it's time for them to take responsibility for their own failings. After all, other minority groups do quite well under the current system.

21 posted on 12/06/2013 1:54:04 PM PST by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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"They've articulated for every one of their colleges and universities the increased number of (black) graduates they expect from them - and that's the kind of aggressive agenda we need," she said.

That's it! Why didn't we think of that before?

Set a goal! Failure is not an option.

There. Fixed.

Idiots.

25 posted on 12/06/2013 2:50:16 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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I blame Hollywierd.
If they didn’t glamorize gangsta pimps and drug dealers, then the kids would get educated and make something of themselves. Instead they all want to be in show business or they want to be into illegal stuff.


26 posted on 12/06/2013 3:01:07 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Democrats believe in a two-party system—the masters and the slaves.)
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Sorry, I do not believe 24% of black and 41% of white Californians have college degrees. Unless they are including a diploma from beauty school or other vocational training as a “degree.”


27 posted on 12/06/2013 3:07:03 PM PST by informavoracious (Root for Obamacare and healthcare.gov failure!)
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-- 32 percent of black Californians who attended college dropped out, more than any other group, according to 2011 U.S. census data.

That's because they weren't qualified to attend to begin with. The problem is affirmative action and PC. Let them stand on their own and many will do better, don't pass them just because they are black and teach them that "acting white" is not evil but to be desired. By acting white I mean getting and education and acting civilized.

28 posted on 12/06/2013 3:43:09 PM PST by calex59
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