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Satanists plan statue to stand alongside Ten Commandments in Oklahoma
theguardian.com ^ | December 8, 2013

Posted on 12/08/2013 2:39:10 PM PST by ilovesarah2012

In their zeal to tout their faith in the public square, conservatives in Oklahoma may have unwittingly opened the door to a wide range of religious groups, including Satanists who are seeking to put their own statue next to a Ten Commandments monument outside the statehouse.

The Republican-controlled legislature in the state known as the buckle of the Bible Belt authorised the privately funded Ten Commandments monument in 2009. It was placed on the Capitol grounds last year despite criticism from legal experts, who questioned its constitutionality. The Oklahoma chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit seeking its removal.

But the New York-based Satanic Temple saw an opportunity. It notified the state's Capitol Preservation Commission that it wants to donate a monument and plans to submit one of several possible designs this month, said Lucien Greaves, a spokesman for the temple.

"We believe that all monuments should be in good taste and consistent with community standards," Greaves wrote in letter to state officials. "Our proposed monument, as an homage to the historic/literary Satan, will certainly abide by these guidelines."

Greaves said one potential design involves a pentagram, a satanic symbol, while another is meant to be an interactive display for children. He said he expects the monument, if approved by Oklahoma officials, would cost about $20,000.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: christianity; oklahoma; satanists
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Something tells me it wouldn't last long.
1 posted on 12/08/2013 2:39:10 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

If they acknowledge Satan then they know there is a G-d.


2 posted on 12/08/2013 2:40:18 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

A new rifle taget, eh!


3 posted on 12/08/2013 2:40:55 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I’m surprised they don’t do like the millions of liberal “Christian” liberals who follow of Satan.

Infiltrate churches and attack God’s people from within.


4 posted on 12/08/2013 2:41:38 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

And will the ACLU bring suit against them too?


5 posted on 12/08/2013 2:42:15 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SandRat

“A new rifle taget, eh!”

Their statue should also be targeted!


6 posted on 12/08/2013 2:42:35 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

There is no equivalence between good and evil. One is good, and one is evil. I guess that’s too complicated for liberals to grasp.


7 posted on 12/08/2013 2:42:59 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: ilovesarah2012

So it will be a statue of the qu’uran?


8 posted on 12/08/2013 2:44:00 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

The ACLU are not “legal experts.” They are experts at bullying, Christian bashing, and tantrums until they get their way. But legal experts? No way.


9 posted on 12/08/2013 2:44:08 PM PST by armydawg505
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To: ilovesarah2012

Without our idiotic anti-discrimination laws, and our idiotic labor laws crap like this would never happen. 50 years ago someone wanting to put up a satanic statue anywhere public would be fired from his job, refused service in his community, and generally shunned until he stopped his behavior. Now every one of those remedies is legally actionable.


10 posted on 12/08/2013 2:45:20 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: ilovesarah2012

How nice, a reminder to people of the choice.


11 posted on 12/08/2013 2:47:38 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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Why would they put up a statue?

The reasonable thing to do, if the Ten Commandments are already there, is put up stone tablets saying:

I There is no god.

II Perjure yourself.

III Do what you like on Sundays.

IV Put your father and mother, father and father, or mother and mother in a home.

V Murder.

VI Commit adultery, fornication, sodomy, etc.

VII Steal.

VIII Lie.

IX Covet your neighbor’s wife, your neighbor’s husband, and your neighbor.

X Covet your neighbor’s stuff.


12 posted on 12/08/2013 2:49:33 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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There is no equivalence between good and evil. One is good, and one is evil. I guess that’s too complicated for liberals to grasp.

Who decides which is which?

Should there be a government commission to decide which religions should be allowed to be publicly celebrated?

13 posted on 12/08/2013 2:50:52 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Visions of the Saddam statue come to mind.


14 posted on 12/08/2013 2:53:56 PM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

An Obama statue?


15 posted on 12/08/2013 2:54:42 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: tet68
And will the ACLU bring suit against them too?

From the article:

Brady Henderson, the legal director for ACLU Oklahoma, said if state officials allow one type of religious expression, they must allow alternative forms of expression, although he said a better solution might be to allow none at all on state property.

We would prefer to see Oklahoma's government officials work to faithfully serve our communities and improve the lives of Oklahomans instead of erecting granite monuments to show us all how righteous they are," Henderson said. "But if the Ten Commandments, with its overtly Christian message, is allowed to stay at the Capitol, the Satanic Temple's proposed monument cannot be rejected because of its different religious viewpoint."

16 posted on 12/08/2013 2:55:50 PM PST by Robwin
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Guess it IS too complicated for some to distinguish which is good and which is evil - God or Satan.


17 posted on 12/08/2013 2:56:19 PM PST by abclily
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To: ilovesarah2012

No, it’s very possible that it won’t.


18 posted on 12/08/2013 2:58:51 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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“A new rifle taget, eh!”

Their statue should also be targeted!

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

19 posted on 12/08/2013 3:00:26 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: BykrBayb

Let me simplify it for Liberals....

Satanists are against the 10 commandments.

So they are for

Adultery
Murder
Theft
Bearing false witness
Coveting thy neighbors wife and possessions.
etc.
etc.

Seems like some really bad folks. Maybe the police should keep an eye on them.


20 posted on 12/08/2013 3:06:57 PM PST by dhs12345
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