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Dick Morris: Boehner Eats His Young With Attacks on Conservatives
Newsmax ^ | December 15, 2013 | Dick Morris

Posted on 12/15/2013 2:03:12 PM PST by Hojczyk

The Republican Party has always represented a fusion of two broad groups: those who are driven by ideology and those who grew up in geographic areas that are traditionally Republican and joined the party because it was the obvious way to enter politics.

Call them the Nixon Republicans, these folks live in suburbs or small towns and represent the equivalent of the urban big city machines that spawn and nurture Democrats.

But this party could not get elected. It would not have defeated Jimmy Carter in 1980 or elected Ronald Reagan. It would not have been the vehicle for the Gingrich Revolution of 1994, nor would it have taken the House in 2010.

It required a Reagan, a Newt Gingrich, a Ted Cruz, a Paul Ryan, a Mike Huckabee, or the like to animate it, fill it with ideas and carry it to victory.

For Boehner to cast aside these party enthusiasts and conservative workhorses is shortsighted and ungrateful in the extreme.

The tea party types are amateurs. They are small businesspeople, retired military, doctors and so forth that are professionals in their occupations but amateurs in politics. We need to be patient with their learning curve. They learned a lesson in October when the government shutdown backfired. And they won’t make that mistake again. Indeed, their basic acceptance of the Ryan-Murray deal indicates precisely that growth of perspective and maturity.

In this light, the Speaker’s comments are outrageous and cast real doubt on his ability to lead the House in the future.

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1 posted on 12/15/2013 2:03:12 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
That's OK. His young will be eating him soon.
2 posted on 12/15/2013 2:04:11 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Hojczyk

Uh Oh... Karl Rove won’t like this.


3 posted on 12/15/2013 2:06:12 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Hojczyk

Morris is mostly wrong in his public statements, but this time, he is right. BONER is a moron RINO with mental problems that is giving away America for his own gains.

Not a profound statement, but he should be history when his election comes around.


4 posted on 12/15/2013 2:10:51 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

I do take Moris with a large grain of salt. From time to time he gets it fairly right. It’s just that you can’t recommend his views to anyone, because he’s more likely to spout something entirely wrong and misleading on a regular basis.


5 posted on 12/15/2013 2:13:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Reagan 1980: Shining city on a hill / RNC 2013: Dim flickering candle in a dark deserted dungeon.)
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To: Hojczyk
click-> America the Beautiful......


"A picture is worth ten thousand words.."


6 posted on 12/15/2013 2:14:45 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: EagleUSA

Bonehead has a wrll known drinking oroblem !
And a total K street whore !
He has the largest number of former aides that head various K street crony capitalist scams in DC .
We are in deep trouble with this souless drunk in charge!


7 posted on 12/15/2013 2:18:17 PM PST by ncalburt ( AmnestySad media out in full force ing)
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To: Hojczyk

Congress has become a cesspool of liars, thieves, inside traders, traitors, drunks, criminals, and other low level swine who will do and say anything in order to be continually re-elected.

It’s time that we, the American voter, cleaned house starting with Mr. Boner.


8 posted on 12/15/2013 2:19:54 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Hojczyk

9 posted on 12/15/2013 2:20:25 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: EagleUSA

I remember when I started calling him Boner, seems like forever ago, other freepers told me to stop it. lol. Now everyone is doing it.


10 posted on 12/15/2013 2:20:36 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: DoughtyOne

Morris got part right and part wrong.

He is right about Boehner being a Moron. He is wrong about the Tea party learning a lesson in the October shutdown.
The shutdown was a win in a way, Cruz and the party were willing to settle for a one year suspension of Obamacare.
We didn’t get it so Obamacare came on, then Obama had to suspend it. Now the Democrats own it Lock, Stock, and Barrel. Let them eat it.

If Morris thinks the Tea party has accepted Ryan -Murray he is full of sh*t.

He is right about Boehner being a Moron, but Boehner has a ton of GOP e’ers who share that title with him.


11 posted on 12/15/2013 2:21:20 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: Hojczyk

Can someone tell me what this means: “the shutdown backfired.”

From my observation of political reporting, the theme was “the shutdown was the Republicans’ fault.” But if breathing was the only crime that could be pinned on Republicans, they would be accused of breathing.

What exactly are Republicans accused of hurting by the govt “shutdown?”


12 posted on 12/15/2013 2:24:16 PM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: Hojczyk
"..their basic acceptance of the Ryan-Murray deal indicates precisely that growth of perspective and maturity. "

Represents a cooption by the GOPe.

13 posted on 12/15/2013 2:25:20 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: GeronL

Where’s the research on first use?


14 posted on 12/15/2013 2:26:42 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Hojczyk

Hey Boner! What if they gave a Government shutdown and nobody cared?


15 posted on 12/15/2013 2:28:01 PM PST by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Hojczyk

Bonehead fails to realize he would not be speaker except for the 2010 Tea Party managing to win a majority of House seats.

Bonehead fails to realize he would not be speaker except for the 2012 Tea Party who decided not to unseat him as speaker.

Bonehead OWES the Tea Party, big time!


16 posted on 12/15/2013 2:28:23 PM PST by TomGuy (.)
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To: Hojczyk

Boehner is a schmoozer, a boozer, a loser. He is destroying the Republican party.


17 posted on 12/15/2013 2:28:38 PM PST by Ray76
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To: GeronL

I supported Boner till he began attacking conservatives. He would get more support from us if he would use his wrath on liberals like Pilousy and dirty Harry. Who would like to replace him? Those attackin conservatives should either shut up or face the consequences. Unions replace elected officials who attack them. Why can’t the Tra party do likewise?


18 posted on 12/15/2013 2:30:13 PM PST by RightLady
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To: RightLady

I lost any respect for him at the “long-ago” debt ceiling deal that led to sequester.


19 posted on 12/15/2013 2:31:20 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Hojczyk

I’ve never liked Boehner. He’s a strange, overly emotional man who is not conservative.


20 posted on 12/15/2013 2:32:04 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: maica

It’s nothing more than a mediacrat fairytale.


21 posted on 12/15/2013 2:32:09 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: trisham

Truly a “country club” Republican.
Unfortunately that’s the norm these days.


22 posted on 12/15/2013 2:33:05 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: trisham

“I’ve never liked Boehner”

He’s a Godsend compared to Pelosi as Speaker.


23 posted on 12/15/2013 2:33:16 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: Venturer

well, at least one sane Freeper left!! You jerks that get off dancing on the grave of the Tea Party are going to get some surprises.


24 posted on 12/15/2013 2:37:31 PM PST by Segovia
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To: nascarnation

“Truly a “country club” Republican.”

At least he came up the hard way. Large family without wealth, family business success with hard work.

Hey isn’t that the American Way? AND he remembers his roots and hard way up the ladder, even gets sentimental about it.

Can do better for Speaker? Could do a LOT WORSE. And Pelosi WAS.


25 posted on 12/15/2013 2:37:39 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: Hojczyk

They’re worried about getting blacks and hispanics into the party?

They’re going to have trouble getting young people into the party. If will die from the top.


26 posted on 12/15/2013 2:37:50 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: AMDG&BVMH

Certainly much better that Pelosi.

And much worse than what we really need.


27 posted on 12/15/2013 2:40:28 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: AMDG&BVMH

why not simply do BETTER? How about someone from SC?


28 posted on 12/15/2013 2:46:44 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Hojczyk
It required a Reagan, a Newt Gingrich, a Ted Cruz, a Paul Ryan, a Mike Huckabee, or the like to animate it, fill it with ideas and carry it to victory.

Two of these things are not like the others.

29 posted on 12/15/2013 2:49:33 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Hojczyk

Most of us would think that the election of 2010 would have never spawned a Boehner. Egads, we have to plan better.


30 posted on 12/15/2013 2:50:39 PM PST by dforest
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To: nascarnation

He’s more than a disappointment. He has betrayed us.


31 posted on 12/15/2013 2:51:03 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Hojczyk

Who says the govt shutdown failed? Where’s the proof?
If it went longer the numbers for Obamacare would be falling faster.

Pray America is Waking


32 posted on 12/15/2013 2:52:14 PM PST by bray (Repeal Obamacare)
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To: AMDG&BVMH

He’s supposed to be conservative. Pelosi is a democrat. I expect less than nothing from her.


33 posted on 12/15/2013 2:52:15 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

And you can see what will happen.

He’ll get taken out in the primary by somebody who will be shredded by the MSM and a Dem gets the seat.


34 posted on 12/15/2013 2:53:12 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Hojczyk
What these ninnys don't consider is that they are not dealing with low information voters here as in the Tea Party voters, no way, no sir.
What Beyatch the Mitch McSugardaddy and Bone head Johny has done is to ensure that the old Grout of the Grand old party will be primed in the primaries this spring.

Tea Party Spring.... Arising !
35 posted on 12/15/2013 2:56:16 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: nascarnation

“Certainly much better that Pelosi.
And much worse than what we really need.”

In the mean time, I pray that he receives the best guidance from above and from his peers and constituents; and the courage of his convictions and those of his constituents who have indeed strengthened him in the shutdown battle etc.; and the same for a more conservative Speaker who would replace him.

And in the mean time, he is as far as I can tell a humble and decent, if flawed, human being; which is why he gets teary some times. My father was a very decent, very saintly, humble and manly man, and he got teary-eyed sometimes over something that meant a lot to him, and that is nothing to be made fun of!! But to be admired! Such a man as he could have the courage of his convictions enough to tear up over them. Not a flaw. Speaking here of my Dad.

I just dislike so much, ad hominem attacks! That is the cowardly and intellectually vacuous tactic of the Left! for crying out loud!

When we have the Speakership! for crying outloud!! build the guy up with prayers and advice! NOT ad hominem attacks, not for goodness’ sakes, making FUN of the guy! Give him strength! do not cut him down for his weaknesses!

And if there is a better conservative Speaker in the wings, OK, all for it! Let’s not weaken the one and only Republican Speaker we have, with back-biting. And uncharitable assaults.

just saying! ; )

God Help Us! Our Country! Our Speaker, among many others.

Servus!


36 posted on 12/15/2013 2:57:15 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: AMDG&BVMH
"“I’ve never liked Boehner”..."

"He’s a Godsend compared to Pelosi as Speaker."I'm in complete agreement with your reply here. He is certainly not everyone's dream of the perfect speaker, but it bears considering exactly what can realistically be accomplished with Harry Reid leading the Senate, and Obama/Biden (not Romney/Ryan) ruling from the White House, assisted by their cabinet and agency appointees who love rule-making more than anything.

I just can't wait to see what happens next time there's an issue before the DC Court of Appeals, now that we have the new judges there that they didn't want or need, thanks to Harry's "nuclear option".

We had better put differences aside, keep the House, and take back the Senate next Fall, or we will be in even more of a world of hurt, IMHO.

37 posted on 12/15/2013 2:58:02 PM PST by 88keys ("work and purpose"...)
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To: trisham

“He’s supposed to be conservative. Pelosi is a democrat. I expect less than nothing from her.”

So Gott sei Dank we have Boehner rather than Pelosi now! And if a better candidate arises for the Speakership, Heaven Help him or her as well.


38 posted on 12/15/2013 3:00:27 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: Hojczyk
HEY MITCH !
BONE HEAD !

The Tea Part voters have long memories !

Plus we rememeber every word spoken by you guys, or rather is it ladies ?
39 posted on 12/15/2013 3:00:50 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: AMDG&BVMH

Thanks for saying that. While he is a moron, compared to Pelosi, its like night and day.


40 posted on 12/15/2013 3:01:30 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Venturer

I agree with your comments. In particular, Boehner has a lot of company, and the worst of it is in W., D. C.


41 posted on 12/15/2013 3:07:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Reagan 1980: Shining city on a hill / RNC 2013: Dim flickering candle in a dark deserted dungeon.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
"They’re going to have trouble getting young people into the party. If will die from the top."

They are going to have a hell of a time keeping people like me, a de-facto republican only because they are usually the better choice. For instance, this time Cornyn has a primary challenger (Steve Stockman, who sounds GREAT). I am sure that there other similar situations all over the country.

42 posted on 12/15/2013 3:08:22 PM PST by matthew fuller (Pubbies need to replace Boehner with Gowdy if they want to survive.....)
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To: Hojczyk

As for Boehner needing to leave his position as Speaker of the House, yes, that is necessary. It is not just that he has been ineffectual but he is attacking the dominant force in his own party. That is foolish and absolutely intolerable in a party leader. He stands to weaken fundraising and votes in one of the most favorable election seasons of this century. He is a danger to his own party and he is not alone. I occasionally try to figure out what these “leaders” are thinking and I can only suggest that they are driven by information from the DC media, demographic-based surveys (they measure inaccurate and unreliable independent variables, demographics, by the way), and consultants who have conflicts of interest. Those three sources together may seem compelling, until you get out past the edge of the city—then the world looks different.

As far as the Tea Party becoming more mature by recognizing that the shut down was a mistake, Morris is maligning the Tea Party. The Tea Party people did not shut down the government. Morris is supporting the leftist media narrative in stating so and thus weakening his position. That kind of thinking is a loser’s way of thinking. If the Dems can tout OWS in a favorable way and not feel a need to suggest that OWS members are getting more mature then sure as heck the R party need not criticize Tea Party people.

Of course, Tea Party people don’t need Morris’s approval.

Boehner and his colleagues are a serious threat to not only the R party but the nation’s government.


43 posted on 12/15/2013 3:10:07 PM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Mamzelle

Better is OK. Just not lets us not destroy the Speaker we have now.

Name-calling and ad hominem attacks are of the leftists. We can do better than that.

Disagree on policy and let him know through his phone and email and etc. I do and will.

Do not attack the person. That is cowardly. And not charitable. ; )


44 posted on 12/15/2013 3:10:08 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: nascarnation

I don’t know what will happen. All I know is that he is not conservative.


45 posted on 12/15/2013 3:10:55 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nascarnation
or, by someone who looks much better on paper than in fact...it happens!!

In Ohio news (Boehner's home state), gubernatorial Democrat candidate Ed FitzGerald (Cuyahoga County Executive) is the only serious contender v. Kasich so far, and he's already made the huge gaff of selecting Lt. Governor who withdrew from the race...but there's plenty of time for him to choose another "ticket balancer" (minority, south Ohio) running mate.

The point? If Kasich is not conservative enough for the conservatives, and gets primaried (?), or conservative votes are split with a Libertarian candidate, FitzGerald could easily end up being elected Governor of Ohio, which would be an unmitigated disaster. FG is the most ambitious, callow, and clueless "executive" you could imagine. Just saying.

46 posted on 12/15/2013 3:13:16 PM PST by 88keys ("work and purpose"...)
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To: 88keys

“exactly what can realistically be accomplished with Harry Reid leading the Senate, and Obama/Biden (not Romney/Ryan) ruling from the White House, assisted by their cabinet and agency appointees who love rule-making more than anything.”

Exactly! Leadership is an art, not a science, and we are in uncharted territory. The events since the shut-down and o care rollout have been unexpected and unprecedented. No one can be expected to both adhere to the most purist of conservative policies, which we expect, AND win the political battles, which we ALSO expect!

Heaven Help Us and our leadership! We have had a decent showing . . . not ideal, not earth-shattering, not 0 repeal, but the groundwork has also been set.

I know I couldn’t have finessed it all any better. Go Cruz and etc. BTW!


47 posted on 12/15/2013 3:14:51 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: KC_Conspirator

“compared to Pelosi, its like night and day”

and the wicked witch is just itching to get back in power

so . . . vote in the primaries for your best candidate

but vote in the general election for the Republican caucus, even if you feel you have to hold your nose

because Pelosi and her lock-step caucus are FAR FAR worse, and would just love backbiting and infighting and purist voting to pave the way for her gleeful gavel pounding again. HEAVEN HELP US!


48 posted on 12/15/2013 3:18:43 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: iacovatx
"until you get out past the edge of the city—then the world looks different."

I know you are referring to Washington DC...but "the city" applies in many states...take a look at "red state/blue state" maps, county by county, district by district...and you'll know why Ohio voted to re-elect Obama (sickeningly)...and why national Representatives and Senators elect to "represent" their districts and states, and why the Tea Party and conservative voters are strong, but not yet enough of a majority.

Operative word: city

49 posted on 12/15/2013 3:23:30 PM PST by 88keys ("work and purpose"...)
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To: Hojczyk
Without the tea party, the Republican Party would be an inarticulate, me-too party without ideas or energy.

You mean that it's not?

50 posted on 12/15/2013 3:24:39 PM PST by Petrosius
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