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Southern Discomfort: U.S. Army seeks removal of Lee, ‘Stonewall’ Jackson honors
The Washington Times ^ | 12/17/13 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 12/18/2013 8:24:58 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft

The U.S. Army War College, which molds future field generals, has begun discussing whether it should remove its portraits of Confederate generals

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dixie; museum; purge; usmilitary
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To: Bringbackthedraft

From a post on GlockTalk:

THIS IS UNTRUE. I just heard form a close friend who retired as an O-5 and was an instructor at the AWC. He made the necessary calls and just told me that “Major General Cucolo has no intention of removing portraits of Lee or other CSA generals. This was ONE professor and some inartful statements by Kerr, the PAO woman.”

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=20846007&postcount=19

Makes perfect sense but is worth checking into...


21 posted on 12/18/2013 9:02:17 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft; central_va; lentulusgracchus
Next these leftists will be calling for Fort Hood here in Texas to be renamed. By the way, it wouldn't surprise me to also have the usual cabal of anti-Southern FReepers on board as well. But...but...but...General Hood was a Democrat...coming in 3-2.1.


22 posted on 12/18/2013 9:02:59 PM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: BatGuano
A few months ago a column in the NY Times that questioned why Southern Forts and Bases were named after Confederate Generals and other heroes of the South. My reply to him is WTF? Should we rename Fort Stewart Fort Sherman? This PC Bullshit has got my blood pressure up...

The libs were all ga-ga about South Africa's Truth & Reconciliation Commission, whereby each side was supposed to forgive each other and live in peace forever after.

The fact of the matter is that the USA showed how Truth & Reconciliation and Forgiveness really worked by pretty much leaving each other alone after Reconstruction.

As a consequence, neither the North nor the South dwelt upon the outcome of the Civil War -- we went on about our business of building one country.

Now, the libs have decided to pick scabs off of old wounds. They won't maintain Reconciliation that way...

23 posted on 12/18/2013 9:05:48 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

IN DEFENSE OF GENERAL LEE

By Edward C. Smith
Saturday, August 21, 1999
© Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company

Let me begin on a personal note. I am a 56-year-old, third-generation, African American Washingtonian who is a graduate of the D.C. public schools and who happens also to be a great admirer of Robert E. Lee’s.

Today, Lee, who surrendered his troops to Gen. Ulysses S. Grant at Appomattox Court House 134 years ago, is under attack by people — black and white — who have incorrectly characterized him as a traitorous, slaveholding racist. He was recently besieged in Richmond by those opposed to having his portrait displayed prominently in a new park.

My first visit to Lee’s former home, now Arlington National Cemetery, came when I was 12 years old, and it had a profound and lasting effect on me. Since then I have visited the cemetery hundreds of times searching for grave sites and conducting study tours for the Smithsonian Institution and various other groups interested in learning more about Lee and his family as well as many others buried at Arlington.

Lee’s life story is in some ways the story of early America. He was born in 1807 to a loving mother, whom he adored. His relationship with his father, Henry “Light Horse Harry” Lee, (who was George Washington’s chief of staff during the Revolutionary War) was strained at best. Thus, as he matured in years, Lee adopted Washington (who had died in 1799) as a father figure and patterned his life after him. Two of Lee’s ancestors signed the Declaration of Independence, and his wife, Mary Custis, was George Washington’s foster great-granddaughter.

Lee was a top-of-the-class graduate of West Point, a Mexican War hero and superintendent of West Point. I can think of no family for which the Union meant as much as it did for his.

The rest here: http://vaudc.org/lee-defense.html


24 posted on 12/18/2013 9:09:00 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: re_nortex

Hood was a fighter but a terrible general.

After the Battle of Nashville, Nathan Bedford Foresst said he would have killed Hood if he knew Hood was being allowed to command the Army. I think a huge number of Confederate officers were killed in numerous attacks on fortified lines by soldiers without shoes, dying of illness, starving nearly to death.

The only way such soldiers could have been used was in holding positions.


25 posted on 12/18/2013 9:11:00 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

Outstanding post, yarddog. Thanks...


26 posted on 12/18/2013 9:19:53 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: Bringbackthedraft

If you don’t know the family of the military or law enforcement that come for you, they may as well be from Russia. They will kill you so they can get back to lunch on time.

The economy is winding down fast, the end is nigh.


27 posted on 12/18/2013 9:28:01 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Bringbackthedraft

For effs sakes! can we let history be history?


28 posted on 12/18/2013 9:28:51 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

Heh!


29 posted on 12/18/2013 9:30:04 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: okie01

It ain’t just libs

There are some serious turdblossom agitators here who crap on Dixie day day out

Their own usually skin in the game literally prejudice towards white southerners who won’t suck up

Kinda like the homosexual jacobins


30 posted on 12/18/2013 9:38:07 PM PST by wardaddy (choctaw bingo)
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To: wardaddy

Very true.


31 posted on 12/18/2013 9:48:22 PM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: plainshame

These people must be ashamed of their own American history.

_____________________________________

They do not know American history!


32 posted on 12/18/2013 9:51:37 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: wardaddy
It ain’t just libs

There are some serious turdblossom agitators here who crap on Dixie day day out

Then, they're libs, too.

Conservatives are savvy enough in military matters to honor a defeated opponent who himself acted honorably.

Washington showed it at Yorktown. And do we still hold a grudge against the British?

Grant showed it at Appomattox. And, for over 100 years, the North and South held their peace.

The U.S. showed it in WW II. The defeated opponents were treated with honor, only their dishonorable leadership was held accountable, and they are two of our staunchest allies today. Indeed, you might say that our strongest allies are all ex-enemies -- Great Britain, Germany and Japan.

Liberals don't know how to do treat opponents with honor. Conservatives win wars. Liberals lose the peace.

33 posted on 12/18/2013 9:52:21 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Portrait of an ObamaCare Foot Soldier
34 posted on 12/18/2013 9:59:13 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: yarddog

the wrong side won in 1865


35 posted on 12/18/2013 10:51:02 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: The Iceman Cometh

After the clean-up campaign (to take years), there might be five pictures remaining on the walls (George Washington owned slaves....so he has to be taken down...same with Jackson and most of the early 1800s Generals).


36 posted on 12/18/2013 10:56:12 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: LeoWindhorse
the wrong side won in 1865

I'm not sure the Yankees actually won in the long run. Their fetid cities are bankrupt, both financially and -- even more significantly -- morally. And, as this map vividly illustrates, the Solid South is the land of true freedom and liberty. The north (with a few outliers, probably due to Southern migration during WWII) is where the slavery of unionism prevails.

Furthermore the north continues to lose population since abortion is widespread up there. The South, derided as the Bible Belt by liberal Yankee snobs, honors God and the real American values of the Founding Fathers.

37 posted on 12/18/2013 11:27:36 PM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

This is the face of repression. It is rampant with the left. Children repressed to the point that when they go off, it’s by way of multiple murder rather than a 60 second fist fight.

Adults are acting out the same way. They feel shut out, ignored, with no self-worth due to long-term unemployment.

Control of every aspect of life, work, recreation, diet, transportation, housing, doctors, interpersonal relationships, everything.

These are just the early results of dystopian socialism.

Prepare.


38 posted on 12/18/2013 11:33:57 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: re_nortex

” The South, derided as the Bible Belt by liberal Yankee snobs, honors God and the real American values of the Founding Fathers. “

Right on ! So true


39 posted on 12/18/2013 11:40:48 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: BatGuano

I hear you bro. I was in the Air Force for 20 years, but in the very least, I told my son I would knock him out if he even remotely showed any desire to go in the military. PC has become so entrenched in society, I am not sure it can ever be rooted out. I am also disgusted, knowing I spent 20 years of my life, protecting this country from communism, only to see it triumph without a shot being fired.


40 posted on 12/19/2013 12:02:45 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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